D6 event....blizzard, flizzard, rain, or partly cloudy?

[baroclinic_instability]

You would probably beat me....you sound young out of college...I am not anymore. I was maybe 4-5 years ago. I have no desire to go back into that type of math, but it is certainly helpful in the back of my brain when I look models...

3 years removed, but I still feel like an old fart sometimes. In met, I guess, 3 years experience might as well be 20 in most other fields.

I think I will be heading to the threads over here more often. No offense to my central/western forum (they are quite good overall), but we don't get into much discussion beyond "this model has this, this model has that, therefore my forecast is this" with no discussion on why or what is actually happening.

[weatherwiz]

None.....just on a roll.

Impressive!

[Chris L]

3 years removed, but I still feel like an old fart sometimes. In met, I guess, 3 years experience might as well be 20 in most other fields.

I think I will be heading to the threads over here more often. No offense to my central/western forum (they are quite good overall), but we don't get into much discussion beyond "this model has this, this model has that, therefore my forecast is this" with no discussion on why or what is actually happening.

See my link, try to break it down..

[ORH_wxman]

I'll tell you what, something really got into this model data tonight. Even the CMC ensembles which were ridiculously ramped up at 12z are strung out and weak with no reflection.

I don't think that "something" was very good.

I'm getting a bit washed up in my old age (if you excuse me, I'm reminiscing about 2007-2008), but I don't like that trend if you ask me.

But given the Euro "off the rocker" northern stream result, I still have quite a bit of hope. I'd still like to be in Boston vs Worcester though if you held a gun to my head.

[weatherwiz]

See my link, try to break it down..

I've been looking at it. I am SO SCREWED when I eventually get back to school.

[baroclinic_instability]

All right here.

http://mysite.du.edu...ther/atphys.htm

Break it down for us.

The derivation of thermodynamic diagrams is boring

Check out the ole' weather blog, I discuss random wx and try to throw in the theory that backs up reality, and vice versa. https://jasonahsenmacher.wordpress.com/

It is a work in progress.

[earthlight]

I'm getting a bit washed up in my old age (if you excuse me, I'm reminiscing about 2007-2008), but I don't like that trend if you ask me.

Looks like somebody found an old high school yearbook while sifting through his pile of Kocin books.

[Chris L]

The derivation of thermodynamic diagrams is boring

Check out the ole' weather blog, I discuss random wx and try to throw in the theory that backs up reality, and vice versa. https://jasonahsenma....wordpress.com/

It is a work in progress.

Some of the stuff is wayyy over my heads and many of ours, but bit by bit I'll learn a bit.... each day...

[ORH_wxman]

3 years removed, but I still feel like an old fart sometimes. In met, I guess, 3 years experience might as well be 20 in most other fields.

I think I will be heading to the threads over here more often. No offense to my central/western forum (they are quite good overall), but we don't get into much discussion beyond "this model has this, this model has that, therefore my forecast is this" with no discussion on why or what is actually happening.

Ahhh yes...yeah you won't be feeling old for another 3-4 years or so. You remind me quite a bit of myself back in 2006-2007 when I hadn't a care in the world except talking meteorology. No responsibilities.

You'll be delegated to your BY thread in no time...trust me. But I think its great you are chatting with us...I did that back then with the Great Lake folks and the Mid-Atlantic folks (i still chat with them occasionally).

[ORH_wxman]

Looks like somebody found an old high school yearbook while sifting through his pile of Kocin books.

No, I'm actually talking to too many BI types...they come along like a firecracker...he is a good met without a care in the world like I was 4-5 years ago. I cannot match that anymore.

[baroclinic_instability]

No, I'm actually talking to too many BI types...they come along like a firecracker...he is a good met without a care in the world like I was 4-5 years ago. I cannot match that anymore.

Nah I understand. My experiences in met have also exposed me to the realities of the met world (my attempt to get into the NWS against 400 others for instance...managed a few interviews the last month so I am hopeful).

Hope this isn't OT.

[baroclinic_instability]

In terms of weather I am definitely most interested in mid-latitude winter weather and mountain meteorology (baroclinic instability FTW!), which is rare these days with the whole trend towards severe wx meteorology/chasing etc. One area I can really learn more is longer range weather forecasting and tele-connections, and I can tell as a group you discuss that quite a bit here. Hopefully I can learn over here.

[weatherwiz]

In terms of weather I am definitely most interested in mid-latitude winter weather and mountain meteorology (baroclinic instability FTW!), which is rare these days with the whole trend towards severe wx meteorology/chasing etc. One area I can really learn more is longer range weather forecasting and tele-connections, and I can tell you discuss that quite a bit here. Hopefully I can learn over here.

This is something I've heavily became interested in over the past year or so...I first grew interested in this 2 years ago but have done much more learning over the past year and doing lots of writing...I spent a better part of one month writing down data for over 30 global indices with data dating back to 1950 Nearly filled up an entire 180 page notebook. I've been trying to work some with long-range severe wx forecasting.

[ORH_wxman]

Nah I understand. My experiences in met have also exposed me to the realities of the met world (my attempt to get into the NWS against 400 others for instance...managed a few interviews the last month so I am hopeful).

Hope this isn't OT.

Nah its not OT for me...I understand your frustrations...I've been rejected by 2 NWS offices in the country saying that I wasn't "qualified" to be a NWS met. It stemmed from my math courses not having the title "differential equations" in the transcript. Sounds pretty ridiculous but its true.

It's def. OT for this thread, but if you have any questions you can PM me. I basically run my own business...but I'm not LLC yet, but I probably will go that route soon. I'm only a "consultant" for my clients for now. But I'm going to go LLC I think.

I do understand the frustration of the NWS process...if you ask me...its a complete joke. Its actually almost embarrassing. I love all the guys at BOX and I do know the head guy there loosely but the hiring process is horrible.

[earthlight]

Not worth much, but the 03z SREF's are also all over the place with the northern stream/PV. In the later frames, they trended about 100-200 miles west with the PV with less confluence over the Eastern Lakes/New England, but still aren't showing much of a better trend at the surface. So nothing too interesting.

[40/70 Benchmark]

Ahhh yes...yeah you won't be feeling old for another 3-4 years or so. You remind me quite a bit of myself back in 2006-2007 when I hadn't a care in the world except talking meteorology. No responsibilities.

You'll be delegated to your BY thread in no time...trust me. But I think its great you are chatting with us...I did that back then with the Great Lake folks and the Mid-Atlantic folks (i still chat with them occasionally).

Well, it's not as though you have kids, yet. lol

[baroclinic_instability]

This is something I've heavily became interested in over the past year or so...I first grew interested in this 2 years ago but have done much more learning over the past year and doing lots of writing...I spent a better part of one month writing down data for over 30 global indices with data dating back to 1950 Nearly filled up an entire 180 page notebook. I've been trying to work some with long-range severe wx forecasting.

Nice! That is good dedication. Do you have your information regarding long-range severe wx forecasting online anywhere? I would def. give that a read.

And so this doesn't go too OT, I am not too enthusiastic about the nor'easter

[ORH_wxman]

Well, it's not as though you have kids, yet. lol

I was completely single back then with no strings attached. I was 25 years old then. You know how it is.

[earthlight]

Speaking of jobs..it's beginning to become of serious concern for me too. With the job market so terrible...and the meteorology job market so selective and pretty terrible to begin with..and the potential for me to be "jobless" for a while after graduation...the general economic stress I am under even at the current moment has forced me to reconsider my career several times the past few months.

[ORH_wxman]

Speaking of jobs..it's beginning to become of serious concern for me too. With the job market so terrible...and the meteorology job market so selective and pretty terrible to begin with..and the potential for me to be "jobless" for a while after graduation...the general economic stress I am under even at the current moment has forced me to reconsider my career several times the past few months.

You almost HAVE to go private sector first before you can consider the NWS these days...its a tragedy, but true. NWS hiring process is absolutely horrible...they have a very strict regime, they favor those already on the "list" which is predetermined by paid interns....and then after that, its all about the "words" you have in your resume.

I think the NWS is a great place to work having interned there, but their hiring process is a complete joke.

[40/70 Benchmark]

I was completely single back then with no strings attached. I was 25 years old then. You know how it is.

Yea, I figured you referring to Meg.....

I had a GF back then....I've gone backwards lol.

J\K.....I'm 3x times the person I was then, single or not.

I want get my sh** in order with respect to a career before I event entertain the notion of a LTR...if I fall into it, so be it, but not going out of my way to seek it out because I don't have much going on right now.

[earthlight]

You almost HAVE to go private sector first before you can consider the NWS these days...its a tragedy, but true. NWS hiring process is absolutely horrible...they have a very strict regime, they favor those already on the "list" which is predetermined by paid interns....and then after that, its all about the "words" you have in your resume.

I think the NWS is a great place to work having interned there, but their hiring process is a complete joke.

Yeah, exactly. I have spoken to several graduates who still don't have meteorology jobs and it's just a real shame...and from the outside looking in very concerning.

Let's also add that I am incessantly bad at mathematics which just isn't going to fly in this major either. I am getting by, but barely, and it's painful.

I love meteorology and everything around it, but I guess it just comes to a point where you divide the line between dream and reality, and the reality is that I have no money and might need to pursue other things before I get my meteorology degree and have the time to sit around for a few years while begging the NWS to hire me. That time is not now.

I'm not pulling the trigger on anything yet, but it's just a whole lot of stress and uncertainty that's building up at the moment.

[ORH_wxman]

Yea, I figured you referring to Meg.....

I had a GF back then....I've gone backwards lol.

J\K.....I'm 3x times the person I was then, single or not.

I want get my sh** in order with respect to a career before I event entertain the notion of a LTR...if I fall into it, so be it, but not going out of my way to seek it out because I don't have much going on right now.

Enjoy the weather first and let anything else fall into place. I never envisioned Megan falling into my lap...it just happened 2 days after I got the worst ice storm in my living memory. I was completely 100% obsessed with my ice storm and then that happened.

[weatherwiz]

Nice! That is good dedication. Do you have your information regarding long-range severe wx forecasting online anywhere? I would def. give that a read.

And so this doesn't go too OT, I am not too enthusiastic about the nor'easter

A few years ago I had started working on a little project which showed correlation to tornadic activity and ENSO/PDO state and my goal was to incorporate more global indices and such but my laptop where I had everything saved had the hard drive go so I virtually lost everything I had written up and the maps I made so actually as we speak I'm doing this all over again I'm going to be spending a great deal of time on this over the next few months b/c I would like to make a little attempt for the upcoming spring.

[nzucker]

Yeah, exactly. I have spoken to several graduates who still don't have meteorology jobs and it's just a real shame...and from the outside looking in very concerning.

Let's also add that I am incessantly bad at mathematics which just isn't going to fly in this major either. I am getting by, but barely, and it's painful.

I love meteorology and everything around it, but I guess it just comes to a point where you divide the line between dream and reality, and the reality is that I have no money and might need to pursue other things before I get my meteorology degree and have the time to sit around for a few years while begging the NWS to hire me. That time is not now.

I'm not pulling the trigger on anything yet, but it's just a whole lot of stress and uncertainty that's building up at the moment.

It would be a shame if you didn't become a met given how passionate you are about all aspects of the weather, but I'm sure you'll find another suitable career and be good at whatever you do.

What year are you in college?

[tombo82685]

Yeah, exactly. I have spoken to several graduates who still don't have meteorology jobs and it's just a real shame...and from the outside looking in very concerning.

Let's also add that I am incessantly bad at mathematics which just isn't going to fly in this major either. I am getting by, but barely, and it's painful.

I love meteorology and everything around it, but I guess it just comes to a point where you divide the line between dream and reality, and the reality is that I have no money and might need to pursue other things before I get my meteorology degree and have the time to sit around for a few years while begging the NWS to hire me. That time is not now.

I'm not pulling the trigger on anything yet, but it's just a whole lot of stress and uncertainty that's building up at the moment.

john, why don't you minor in another field than, and also go for met degree.

[40/70 Benchmark]

John, stay in school as long as you can.....the economy is terrible and it is going nowhere fast.

I completed my MA in October of 2008 and I have worked full time a total of 6 months via a contact position from Sep 2009-March 2010.....part time menial crap, otherwise.

[earthlight]

John, stay in school as long as you can.....the economy is terrible and it is going nowhere fast.

I completed my MA in October of 2008 and I have worked full time a total of 6 months via a contact position from Sep 2009-March 2010.....part time menial crap, otherwise.

Oh, I wasn't trying to imply that I wasn't going to go to school, just that I may need to seriously reconsider minoring in something else or beginning to turn focus to another potential field while the meteorology job market rots faster than the southern stream shortwave on tonights Euro.

[ORH_wxman]

Yeah, exactly. I have spoken to several graduates who still don't have meteorology jobs and it's just a real shame...and from the outside looking in very concerning.

Let's also add that I am incessantly bad at mathematics which just isn't going to fly in this major either. I am getting by, but barely, and it's painful.

I love meteorology and everything around it, but I guess it just comes to a point where you divide the line between dream and reality, and the reality is that I have no money and might need to pursue other things before I get my meteorology degree and have the time to sit around for a few years while begging the NWS to hire me. That time is not now.

I'm not pulling the trigger on anything yet, but it's just a whole lot of stress and uncertainty that's building up at the moment.

Met job are hard to come by right now because of the process and the volume...its absolutely PATHETIC how many bad mets I keep seeing get hired by the NWS because of their rigid rules.

I can't even get on the committee for NWS BOX right now probably because I don't have a high enough GPA (my GPA was 2.8 at Cornell)...despite the fact that I (I'm trying to toot my own horn here) probably know 100x more about SNE weather than any "prospect" would know who is applying to NWS BOX for their opening.

I'm out of NWS anyway right now...I am trying to expand my own business, but I was just using that as an example of how effing bad the process is. Their process will eliminate me on the first cut easily and easily pass a college grad from Texas A&M who knows absolute sh** about SNE weather...that's the massive flaw in the system.

[40/70 Benchmark]

Enjoy the weather first and let anything else fall into place. I never envisioned Megan falling into my lap...it just happened 2 days after I got the worst ice storm in my living memory. I was completely 100% obsessed with my ice storm and then that happened.

That reads as though she intruded on your ice fetish.