mahk_webstah Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I could be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure this is a forum on this board to discuss all things political. Of course, immediately jumping to labels such as "right wing" certainly seems to be your MO. I was merely speculating on the poster's defense of JB....I think I mistook him for another poster. JB's politics are right wing it seems by reading his posts. I think it is a label he would embrace. I am also at least as frustrated as you about the lack of snow and the number of times the pattern looked ready to change. DT finally gave up. LC gave up a couple weeks ago. JB just keeps hyping... and talking about the lack of global warming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Thou doest protest too much, me thinks. I presume you do not like JB's politics. you are probably right that I protest too much. you are absolutely right that I don't like his politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 My take on JB is simple-he's but one of many tools that we use to decipher the short/medium/long term pattern....I think there's very few people who think JB is the be all end all of forecasting... are you calling JB a tool???!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 are you calling JB a tool???!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace0927 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 That's what JB is saying between DT and JB....easy choice, DT FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace0927 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 DT's discussion looks spot on, no real -NAO or AO, PV in Alaska like it's been the whole winter and MJO sucks...hard to see how JB is coming up with his Fab Feb with this disastrous combo. exactly....if feb 2012 is anything like feb 2010 (like all the weenies are hoping for) ill stop posting for 6 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEXtreme Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 exactly....if feb 2012 is anything like feb 2010 (like all the weenies are hoping for) ill stop posting for 6 months Wtf? When did Joe B say 2012 Feb will be like 2010? Hes been saying up to this day since the summer that this winter would be nothing like the past two winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 exactly....if feb 2012 is anything like feb 2010 (like all the weenies are hoping for) ill stop posting for 6 months He never said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Big tweet by JB this morning, Jan 96 pattern setting up for the 2nd week of February. He sees 1-3 feet from DC to Maine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 BTW, I'm joking. I dont follow him. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 At least 1 or 2 weenies fell for it I'm sure. My issue with JB and the reason I stopped following him is not his politics, but his obsession with them. 2/3 of his tweets are not weather related in any way Big tweet by JB this morning, Jan 96 pattern setting up for the 2nd week of February. He sees 1-3 feet from DC to Maine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 At least 1 or 2 weenies fell for it I'm sure. My issue with JB and the reason I stopped following him is not his politics, but his obsession with it. 2/3 of his tweets are not weather related in any way Ha, well I believed it and why wouldn't I? He's said plenty of things near that magnitude of insanity multiple times before so why not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I would have believed it too if he didn't include the 1 to 3 feet part. Even JB wouldn't make a proclamation like that this far out. Ha, well I believed it and why wouldn't I? He's said plenty of things near that magnitude of insanity multiple times before so why not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 he's about to get embarrassed...going for double YTD snowfalls (ie if you got 12 YTD take another 24 and you get 36 total) Anyone see that happening in this wretched winter? Come to think about it, last Sat was a miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 from DT: at least instead of hyping it he's recognizing that it may just be the models crying wolf yet again.... ***NOTIFICATION *** the 0z EURO ensemble and the GFS ensemble this morning have turned MUCH colder for the eastern US for FEB. Both models develop a strong Ridge over the West coast of N America which allows for arctic air to move into the eastern half of the US FEB 4-8. That Being said this would be the 4th or 5th time this winter the Models have showed a much colder pattern developing in the 11-15 day for N America ... and in every case the model data has been disastrously wrong . I for one remain EXTREMELY skeptical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 from DT: at least instead of hyping it he's recognizing that it may just be the models crying wolf yet again.... ***NOTIFICATION *** the 0z EURO ensemble and the GFS ensemble this morning have turned MUCH colder for the eastern US for FEB. Both models develop a strong Ridge over the West coast of N America which allows for arctic air to move into the eastern half of the US FEB 4-8. That Being said this would be the 4th or 5th time this winter the Models have showed a much colder pattern developing in the 11-15 day for N America ... and in every case the model data has been disastrously wrong . I for one remain EXTREMELY skeptical I share DT's skepticism. My thinking for the first week in February is that even as a short-lived and perhaps fairly sharp cold shot (probably along the lines of those seen since mid-January) is plausible, the East would still wind up on the mild side of normal. The western Great Lakes region and Northern Plains could wind up cooler than normal. Right now, I just don't see the cold locking in, especially if the Euro's MJO forecasts are reasonably accurate and if the MJO remains persistently locked in the warmer phases for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 JB just said that he thinks February will be cold and snowy in the east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 JB just said that he thinks February will be cold and snowy in the east. "thinks" is your keyword As I posted in the pattern change thread, there are signs on the GFS of a very cold start to February in the east, but it's not the first time this has been shown this year, and so far we have struck out. The one exception would be the cold and dry pattern that we saw the first week of January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I share DT's skepticism. My thinking for the first week in February is that even as a short-lived and perhaps fairly sharp cold shot (probably along the lines of those seen since mid-January) is plausible, the East would still wind up on the mild side of normal. The western Great Lakes region and Northern Plains could wind up cooler than normal. Right now, I just don't see the cold locking in, especially if the Euro's MJO forecasts are reasonably accurate and if the MJO remains persistently locked in the warmer phases for the time being. Have to agree. While the PNA spike being progged on guidance looks nice, you still have to take into account the lower height anomalies / everlasting PV near the Davis straights. That never bodes well for us. As soon as the pv shifts south for any period of time near Hudson bay, the next short wave ejects near the lakes, and re energizes that PV and drags it back north. There's no blocking with staying power to stop that from happening near Greenland. It's been was rinse and repeat this entire winter sans a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 JB just said that he thinks February will be cold and snowy in the east. He also "thought" December would be cold and Snowy -result: bust He also "thought" January would be cold and snowy-result: bust (unless you count 7 days as the whole month) get my drift here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 he's about to get embarrassed...going for double YTD snowfalls (ie if you got 12 YTD take another 24 and you get 36 total) Anyone see that happening in this wretched winter? Come to think about it, last Sat was a miracle. Works for me. 8 more inches between now and the end of March...yeah, I can see that happening, nothing miraculous about it. Whoopdie... Just because this may end up as one of the all time crappiest winters, doesn't mean it will be flavored like '98 or '02. As bad as it is, it hasn't been as dismal as those two. I think total snowfall ends up in the teens for most places that only have a few inches as of now, i.e., a good solid winter by DCA standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Brian is so negative lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Brian is so realistic lol Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Fixed Does reality change that often for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 JB thinks a big February is on the way. He also says some snow will be in the area Sunday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 JB thinks a big February is on the way. He also says some snow will be in the area Sunday night. Its like playing roulette, you put chips on every number your number will hit at some point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 JB thinks a big February is on the way. He also says some snow will be in the area Sunday night. Let me know when he picks the Pats to win the Superbowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 JB is ridiculous, he flip flops more than anybody out there, if only the pattern managed to flip flop as much as he does, then we'd be set for every winter. Can you just make up your mind and stick with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 JB has been truly god-awful this winter-still has some snow event on the table for Sunday night-who sees that? Blowtorch next week and yet he's still going for a pattern flip.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 JB thinks a big February is on the way. He also says some snow will be in the area Sunday night. BUST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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