NorEaster27 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Mostly downstate but I have decent elevation here. I will go up when warranted though. Hopefully catch a few Phantoms games especially if there is an NHL lockout. ahh ok im going to miss your reports, it was a good proxy for my house in lake george. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Point, NY Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 ahh ok im going to miss your reports, it was a good proxy for my house in lake george. Believe me, I'd rather be up there full time but my family was homesick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSuburbs Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Albany airport down to 49 degrees and still dropping, forecast low tonight is 44 degrees which seems reasonable. Compared to NE NJ's climate I'm not used to having so many 40s/low 50s in September... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Already down to 43.5* here.. Brrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsdnice Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 36.6 °F when I just woke up for work..welcome back cold air! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted September 11, 2012 Author Share Posted September 11, 2012 I had a low of 42. Early this morning during my morning ritual there was mist covering the entire pond, which is typical for the fall. When I got to the top of the hill in the park I could see the mist rising up along the Wallkill as well, tracing it, which runs right along my house (there's a treeline on the riverbank itself). I often wonder how my proxitiy to the river and surroundng wetlands affects my temps. Normally I've noticed that it may keep me a degree or two higher as my dewpoint is usually a degree or two higher as well from the surrouding area. That said, if the river is frozen over I can sometimes be a little colder as the cold air drains into my little neck of the woods from the surrounding slightly higher terrain. It can be an interesting microclimate in which I'm still learning how it all works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSuburbs Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Dropped to 41 this morning. Felt like October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 42F here as well... Felt great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Point, NY Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I had a low of 42. Early this morning during my morning ritual there was mist covering the entire pond, which is typical for the fall. When I got to the top of the hill in the park I could see the mist rising up along the Wallkill as well, tracing it, which runs right along my house (there's a treeline on the riverbank itself). I often wonder how my proxitiy to the river and surroundng wetlands affects my temps. Normally I've noticed that it may keep me a degree or two higher as my dewpoint is usually a degree or two higher as well from the surrouding area. That said, if the river is frozen over I can sometimes be a little colder as the cold air drains into my little neck of the woods from the surrounding slightly higher terrain. It can be an interesting microclimate in which I'm still learning how it all works. It is the same thing at my house in Queensbury. I am less than a mile from the Hudson River (albeit you can hit a good golf shot over it up there it is so narrow in places), and I go through several frost/freeze warnings in the fall before it materializes at my house. On a calm night with the relatively warm water nearby, it is just enough to affect the environment for a small radius around the river to hold the temp. a couple of degrees higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted September 11, 2012 Author Share Posted September 11, 2012 It is the same thing at my house in Queensbury. I am less than a mile from the Hudson River (albeit you can hit a good golf shot over it up there it is so narrow in places), and I go through several frost/freeze warnings in the fall before it materializes at my house. On a calm night with the relatively warm water nearby, it is just enough to affect the environment for a small radius around the river to hold the temp. a couple of degrees higher. The Wallkill near my house is rather narrow, easy to get a golf shot across the river but ther are also wetlands to my southwest over to my west. Thats why I'm still learning what affect, if any, the river and wetlands have IMBY. As for the Hudson, that has a much larger affect down here since it's much larger. My folks live in New Windsor within a half mile of the river and it takes them "forever" to get their first frost/freeze each year. You can see the difference with the OBS from Stewart (KSWF) in comparison to the OBS from Montgomery (KMGJ). KMGJ is only about 7 miles west of KSWF, and about 100 lower in elevation, but KSWF is only about 4.5 miles from the Hudson and then tend to run a couple of degrees warmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 The Wallkill near my house is rather narrow, easy to get a golf shot across the river but ther are also wetlands to my southwest over to my west. Thats why I'm still learning what affect, if any, the river and wetlands have IMBY. As for the Hudson, that has a much larger affect down here since it's much larger. My folks live in New Windsor within a half mile of the river and it takes them "forever" to get their first frost/freeze each year. You can see the difference with the OBS from Stewart (KSWF) in comparison to the OBS from Montgomery (KMGJ). KMGJ is only about 7 miles west of KSWF, and about 100 lower in elevation, but KSWF is only about 4.5 miles from the Hudson and then tend to run a couple of degrees warmer. MGJ always runs 2-3 degrees cooler.. The Hudson has a big influence on weather down here compared to Upstate. If I'm in mistaken but isn't it at its widest point in the Lower to Mid HV? The snow averages also increase as you move away from the Hudson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSuburbs Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Interesting... practically every model with its 0z run entirely reversed from showing a closed low and instead shows a weak cold front moving through followed by another round of cool temps and sunny skies for the weekend. NWS Albany even calls the change drastic in their discussion: DRASTIC CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE WEEKEND PORTION OF THE FORECAST. THE 00Z GFS/ECMWF/GGEM/UKMET ARE ALL NOW DEPICTING A DRY WEEKEND...AS THE PREVIOUSLY FORECAST CLOSED LOW TRACKING ACROSS OUR REGION OVER THE WEEKEND HAS BEEN REPLACED BY A PROGRESSIVE OPEN WAVE TROUGH MOVING ACROSS SOUTHERN QUEBEC FRIDAY NIGHT. SO THE CHARACTERISTIC...TIMING...AND TRACK OF THIS SYSTEM HAVE ALL CHANGED DRAMATICALLY. HAVE INCREASING CONFIDENCE IN THIS SOLUTION...AS NCEP MODEL DIAGNOSTICS ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING THIS CHANGE. AFOREMENTIONED MODELS IN REMARKABLY GOOD AGREEMENT GIVEN SUCH A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. IN LIGHT OF THESE CHANGES...WILL ONLY FORECAST SLIGHT CHANCE POPS FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY MORNING ASSOCIATED WITH A MOISTURE-STARVED COLD FRONT PASSAGE...WITH THE MAIN LOW CENTER PASSING THROUGH WELL NORTH OF THE REGION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 I was surprised this morning when I read this too in the Upton discussion. No mention of the drastic changes like Albany but the switch to a dry frontal passage. It's looking like a bonfire will be a go on Saturday night. Friday night into Saturday...00z models now in better agreement as the High Breaks down and an upper level trough and surface cold front push across the region. The new 00z GFS and 00z European model (ecmwf) in good agreement with front and trough as it will be more progressive and less amplified. In addition...the weak front now appears as if it will push across the region dry. So have lowered probability of precipitation to have a dry forecast through this period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Point, NY Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Welcome to early fall.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSuburbs Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Looking quite chilly again for Saturday night with the scenario change. NAM at hour 81 (not worth a whole lot) has widespread low-mid 40s with 30s in the high elevations with 850mb temps near 2-4C, cooler than the recent cool air mass, although the GFS is also similar with the overnight lows. EDIT: The 0z GFS is almost 5 degrees warmer for some places compared to its previous run. I wouldn't be surprised if its 18z run and the latest NAM may be a bit too cold but the overall theme of widespread 40s for lows with 30s in the higher elevations is still present with such a cool air mass and a high pressure moving in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 65/42... Should be a nice crisp night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xram Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 63/50 Gorgeous weekend! Enjoy it now....Tuesday & Wednesday looks crappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Point, NY Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Tomorrow is a pefect day for apple picking in Warwick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 49.7/46.. Winter is coming folks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 49.7/46.. Winter is coming folks.. I'm still at 61/53 though I'm sure will make low 50s...I moved back south after working a year at a boarding school in NH, took a public school position in the City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 I'm still at 61/53 though I'm sure will make low 50s...I moved back south after working a year at a boarding school in NH, took a public school position in the City. Ouch... So you went from teaching in NH to teaching in East NY?? Good luck bro smh 47.4* now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 Tomorrow is a pefect day for apple picking in Warwick. We were considering going apple picking this weekend but when I checked a couple of places online it didn't seem like many varieties were available yet, it's a little too early it would appear. Let me know what you find in person. Great time around the campfire last night, perfect weather! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Point, NY Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 We were considering going apple picking this weekend but when I checked a couple of places online it didn't seem like many varieties were available yet, it's a little too early it would appear. Let me know what you find in person. Great time around the campfire last night, perfect weather! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Point, NY Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Macs and red delicious were great. They say the apple season is ahead of schedule this year. Went to Ochs off RT 94. Really good selection as we bagged 2 half bushel bags in less than 1/2 hr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 Looks like a stormy Tuesday on tap, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJay Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I always use KDIX unless the weather is coming from the NW then I'll use Binghampton until it gets in KDIX range. I find that we are close enough to get good returns but far enough not to deal with ground cover FWIW, none of the sites are particularly good for Orange. I’ve found KDIX can offer an good overview of the area in certain situations but it’s too far away to be used for a detailed view. The radar beam from KDIX is 1.8 miles above Orange. Beam heights in miles from site to mid Orange County KENX 1.38 KOKX 1.4 KBGM 1.84 KDIX 1.8 I usually use KOKX but I look at all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Point, NY Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 FWIW, none of the sites are particularly good for Orange. I’ve found KDIX can offer an good overview of the area in certain situations but it’s too far away to be used for a detailed view. The radar beam from KDIX is 1.8 miles above Orange. Beam heights in miles from site to mid Orange County KENX 1.38 KOKX 1.4 KBGM 1.84 KDIX 1.8 I usually use KOKX but I look at all of them. I agree KOKS is the best beam. However, it doesn't show anything west of us which is annoying if you want to get a picture of whats coming out of PA/ Upstate. In addition, in clear air mode, there is never any ground clutter up here from KDIX. With GRLevel3 I find the storm presentation in Sussex and Southern Orange more than acceptable, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Point, NY Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Looks like a stormy Tuesday on tap, eh? Yeah, gonna be like the last storm with cells ripping north in the strong jet. Could be some tree damage in south facing places with elevation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 FWIW, none of the sites are particularly good for Orange. I’ve found KDIX can offer an good overview of the area in certain situations but it’s too far away to be used for a detailed view. The radar beam from KDIX is 1.8 miles above Orange. Beam heights in miles from site to mid Orange County KENX 1.38 KOKX 1.4 KBGM 1.84 KDIX 1.8 I usually use KOKX but I look at all of them. I bounce around all the various radars nearly all of the time to get a better idea of what's around. As you pointed out we kind of get lost around here in between the various offices and radars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 Yeah, gonna be like the last storm with cells ripping north in the strong jet. Could be some tree damage in south facing places with elevation. I'm heading up to Saratoga Springs Tuesday afternoon for work, really looking forward to the ride....not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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