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Forecast was for rain today... not only did it not rain during the day, but the sun came out at times. Still looks wet tonight though with the additional storms from the west/SW.

Yeah, but notice how the storms over NJ/EPA have regenerated down there all day and weakened as they moved NE. Now we have lost the heating of the day, I bet most places in SE NY wind up with around half inch for the 2 day period. Considering Upton and HPC both had the region getting 3+ inches as late as yeaterday, this was a big bust. Gotta watch that southern section of Issac that is sinking back into the Gulf. That could get it's act together and creep up the Eastern Seaboard this weekend giving us the rain we were supposed to have today.
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Yeah, but notice how the storms over NJ/EPA have regenerated down there all day and weakened as they moved NE. Now we have lost the heating of the day, I bet most places in SE NY wind up with around half inch for the 2 day period. Considering Upton and HPC both had the region getting 3+ inches as late as yeaterday, this was a big bust. Gotta watch that southern section of Issac that is sinking back into the Gulf. That could get it's act together and creep up the Eastern Seaboard this weekend giving us the rain we were supposed to have today.

It may bust but it also looks like we have some training cells heading our way.

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It may bust but it also looks like we have some training cells heading our way.

Yeah, for a 15 mile wide strip running from Port Jervis to Newburgh. If these storms (with a couple of Tornado Warnings in NW NJ) hold together as they head NE, places in between those two cities may reach the excessive rates predicted. For most of us .........meh.
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Yeah, but notice how the storms over NJ/EPA have regenerated down there all day and weakened as they moved NE. Now we have lost the heating of the day, I bet most places in SE NY wind up with around half inch for the 2 day period. Considering Upton and HPC both had the region getting 3+ inches as late as yeaterday, this was a big bust. Gotta watch that southern section of Issac that is sinking back into the Gulf. That could get it's act together and creep up the Eastern Seaboard this weekend giving us the rain we were supposed to have today.

The rain in central NY is making some eastward progress although it's weakening, and should probably produce some light rain here soon, with heavier rain further south in the Hudson Valley from the NE PA storms. This definitely doesn't have the look of a widespread 3+ inch producer though, that part of the forecast was a bust.

The cold front for the weekend doesn't look to have the same amount of moisture/high precipitable water values that the current moisture from Isaac contains, perhaps there could be a risk of moderate/heavy rain but I doubt any 3+ inches from that one as well. There's still the usual model differences and time for some changes but the general model consensus for the weekend setup is for a relatively strong trough swinging through before picking Leslie up into eastern Canada as a strong extratropical cyclone, with chilly temps possibly the bigger story around here.

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That line I was looking at last night went mostly to my south, I only picked up .43" from that but storm total as of this morning is at 1.04" with rain faling again. I agree, I don't see any widespread 3" amounts storm total, I was just happy to get over an inch because I wasn't sure I'd get even that after looking at the radar last night.

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It's gotta be better than last year....right? I think some expectations may be a little too high but I hope to be wrong on that. Total guess is a slow start to winter with above normal temps still around at the start and then maybe a transition into an average winter. (please be wrong, please be wrong)

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Line of heavy rain and thunderstorms expected for Saturday afternoon/evening. Not sure about the severe weather potential up here but at least some strong/possibly severe storms look likely with the cold front. Heavy rain a reasonable possibility with PW values approaching 2".

Much cooler temps will come in behind the front, looks like widespread lows in the 40s and a few 30s in the higher elevations.

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So what does everyone here think about this upcoming winter for the HV?

Another fringe winter?

Dud?

Classic?

Winter starts in November this year, classic Jan thaw and comes back with a vengence in February. Plenty of snow for all N&W of the Tappan Zee (mixing will cut down S & E). Chipmunks and squirrels going absolutely nuts (no pun intended, but funny anyway) the past week. It's been like a minefield here going around them.
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Winter starts in November this year, classic Jan thaw and comes back with a vengence in February. Plenty of snow for all N&W of the Tappan Zee (mixing will cut down S & E). Chipmunks and squirrels going absolutely nuts (no pun intended, but funny anyway) the past week. It's been like a minefield here going around them.

Its been years since we've seen a winter like that and it would be welcomed with open arms in my book.

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Saturday afternoon could get interesting...

DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

1226 PM CDT FRI SEP 07 2012

VALID 081200Z - 091200Z

...THERE IS A MDT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM NERN MD/NRN DE...NWD INTO

UPSTATE NY/VT/NH...

...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS SURROUNDING THE MDT RISK FROM

THE CAROLINAS INTO WRN ME...

...DAMAGING SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS THE

NORTHEASTERN U.S. SATURDAY...

POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT DAMAGING WIND EVENT IS EXPECTED ACROSS MUCH

OF THE NERN U.S. SATURDAY. LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE...ESPECIALLY THE

NAM/ECMWF...SUGGEST SHORT-WAVE TROUGH OVER THE UPPER GREAT LAKES

WILL DIG INTO LOWER MI BY 08/12 BEFORE EJECTING NEWD IN A NEGATIVELY

TILTED FASHION AND DEEPENING OVER SERN ONTARIO/WRN QUEBEC. 90-120M

12HR HEIGHT FALLS WILL SPREAD ACROSS WRN/UPSTATE NY DURING THE DAY

ENSURING A STRONGLY FORCED AND CONVECTIVELY-ACTIVE COLD FRONT. THIS

EVOLUTION SUGGESTS A FRONTAL INTRUSION THAT WILL INDUCE A BAND OF

SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS AS IT SURGES ACROSS THE NRN MIDDLE ATLANTIC

REGION INTO NEW ENGLAND.

ALL INDICATIONS FAVOR A SQUALL ALONG THE WIND SHIFT AT SUNRISE FROM

SRN ONTARIO SWD ACROSS OH...TRAILING INTO THE TN VALLEY. THIS

ACTIVITY IS EXPECTED TO INTENSIFY AS IT MOVES INTO WRN

NY/PA...ESPECIALLY BY 18Z AS BOUNDARY LAYER BEGINS TO WARM.

ALTHOUGH FORECAST LAPSE RATES ARE NOT PARTICULARLY STEEP BOUNDARY

LAYER AIRMASS IS FAIRLY MOIST ATTM WITH UPPER 60S-70F SFC DEW POINTS

IN PLACE ACROSS THE MIDDLE ATLANTIC REGION. THERE IS LITTLE REASON

TO BELIEVE THIS AIRMASS WILL NOT SPREAD NWD ACROSS PA/NJ INTO

UPSTATE NY AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT AND AMPLE MOISTURE/INSTABILITY

WILL SPREAD NWD TOWARD THE CANADIAN BORDER TO SUPPORT ROBUST

UPDRAFTS WITHIN A STRONGLY SHEARED ENVIRONMENT.

OF PARTICULAR CONCERN IS THE EXPECTED MID LEVEL JET THAT SHOULD

INTENSIFY AS IT EJECTS ACROSS WRN PA TO SPEEDS IN EXCESS OF 70KT

OVER UPSTATE NY BY 09/00Z. WITH DEEPENING SFC LOW OVER SERN ONTARIO

FORECAST SHEAR PROFILES BECOME QUITE FAVORABLE FOR SUSTAINING

ORGANIZED UPDRAFTS. WHILE A DAMAGING SQUALL LINE IS EXPECTED ALONG

THE ADVANCING COLD FRONT...ENVIRONMENTAL SHEAR WILL BECOME QUITE

FAVORABLE FOR PRE-FRONTAL SUPERCELLS AND EMBEDDED SUPERCELLS WITHIN

THE MAIN SQUALL LINE. FORECAST SOUNDINGS FROM NRN NJ NWD THROUGH

THE HUDSON VALLEY SUGGEST TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE IF DISCRETE

SUPERCELLS CAN EVOLVE AHEAD OF THE MAIN LINE AND WITH CIRCULATIONS

WITHIN THE LINE. LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THE BACK EDGE OF

THE PRIMARY SQUALL LINE WILL ADVANCE INTO THE HUDSON VALLEY BY LATE

AFTERNOON TRAILING SWWD INTO CNTRL VA BY 09/00Z WITH SUBSEQUENT

MOVEMENT ACROSS MUCH OF NEW ENGLAND BY 06Z.

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Saturday afternoon could get interesting...

DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

1226 PM CDT FRI SEP 07 2012

VALID 081200Z - 091200Z

...THERE IS A MDT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM NERN MD/NRN DE...NWD INTO

UPSTATE NY/VT/NH...

...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS SURROUNDING THE MDT RISK FROM

THE CAROLINAS INTO WRN ME...

...DAMAGING SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS THE

NORTHEASTERN U.S. SATURDAY...

POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT DAMAGING WIND EVENT IS EXPECTED ACROSS MUCH

OF THE NERN U.S. SATURDAY. LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE...ESPECIALLY THE

NAM/ECMWF...SUGGEST SHORT-WAVE TROUGH OVER THE UPPER GREAT LAKES

WILL DIG INTO LOWER MI BY 08/12 BEFORE EJECTING NEWD IN A NEGATIVELY

TILTED FASHION AND DEEPENING OVER SERN ONTARIO/WRN QUEBEC. 90-120M

12HR HEIGHT FALLS WILL SPREAD ACROSS WRN/UPSTATE NY DURING THE DAY

ENSURING A STRONGLY FORCED AND CONVECTIVELY-ACTIVE COLD FRONT. THIS

EVOLUTION SUGGESTS A FRONTAL INTRUSION THAT WILL INDUCE A BAND OF

SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS AS IT SURGES ACROSS THE NRN MIDDLE ATLANTIC

REGION INTO NEW ENGLAND.

ALL INDICATIONS FAVOR A SQUALL ALONG THE WIND SHIFT AT SUNRISE FROM

SRN ONTARIO SWD ACROSS OH...TRAILING INTO THE TN VALLEY. THIS

ACTIVITY IS EXPECTED TO INTENSIFY AS IT MOVES INTO WRN

NY/PA...ESPECIALLY BY 18Z AS BOUNDARY LAYER BEGINS TO WARM.

ALTHOUGH FORECAST LAPSE RATES ARE NOT PARTICULARLY STEEP BOUNDARY

LAYER AIRMASS IS FAIRLY MOIST ATTM WITH UPPER 60S-70F SFC DEW POINTS

IN PLACE ACROSS THE MIDDLE ATLANTIC REGION. THERE IS LITTLE REASON

TO BELIEVE THIS AIRMASS WILL NOT SPREAD NWD ACROSS PA/NJ INTO

UPSTATE NY AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT AND AMPLE MOISTURE/INSTABILITY

WILL SPREAD NWD TOWARD THE CANADIAN BORDER TO SUPPORT ROBUST

UPDRAFTS WITHIN A STRONGLY SHEARED ENVIRONMENT.

OF PARTICULAR CONCERN IS THE EXPECTED MID LEVEL JET THAT SHOULD

INTENSIFY AS IT EJECTS ACROSS WRN PA TO SPEEDS IN EXCESS OF 70KT

OVER UPSTATE NY BY 09/00Z. WITH DEEPENING SFC LOW OVER SERN ONTARIO

FORECAST SHEAR PROFILES BECOME QUITE FAVORABLE FOR SUSTAINING

ORGANIZED UPDRAFTS. WHILE A DAMAGING SQUALL LINE IS EXPECTED ALONG

THE ADVANCING COLD FRONT...ENVIRONMENTAL SHEAR WILL BECOME QUITE

FAVORABLE FOR PRE-FRONTAL SUPERCELLS AND EMBEDDED SUPERCELLS WITHIN

THE MAIN SQUALL LINE. FORECAST SOUNDINGS FROM NRN NJ NWD THROUGH

THE HUDSON VALLEY SUGGEST TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE IF DISCRETE

SUPERCELLS CAN EVOLVE AHEAD OF THE MAIN LINE AND WITH CIRCULATIONS

WITHIN THE LINE. LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THE BACK EDGE OF

THE PRIMARY SQUALL LINE WILL ADVANCE INTO THE HUDSON VALLEY BY LATE

AFTERNOON TRAILING SWWD INTO CNTRL VA BY 09/00Z WITH SUBSEQUENT

MOVEMENT ACROSS MUCH OF NEW ENGLAND BY 06Z.

Hey Rob,

Could get a bit roudy around here today. Watch out for those descrete cells ahead of the front later. We'll see if SPC keeps us in the 10% Tor risk in their next update at 1300z

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