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2012 Winter Banter Thread #2


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LOL das! That's pretty funny. I learned early on in life to admit I'm wrong very ealry in the game. Arguing a bad or false premise is a one way ticket to losing credibility. The problem with defending everything you say is you get no respect when you're right.

Anyway, my life lesson of the day is done. Lol. Your post is good though. It's crowded in here during the winter and alot of posts shouldn't be made in the first place because the byproduct is exactly what you described above.

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I just don't understand why you need drama so often. Do you read the other subforums? They have far more weenies there. We are portably the cleanest subforum in that regard. Seriously. Don't become like trixie where 95% of your posts are whining about the forum and the people in it. It is not a good look.

I read a lot of threads all over the board. There are plenty of weenies elsewhere, but they are handled swiftly and promptly, that doesn't happen here. Here we have threads given to weenies to spew their crap, and/or they are coddled day in and day out to continue to spew their crap. So if the weenies are allowed to post freely here, why should I keep my mouth shut about them? I was asked yesterday to take my posts to the banter thread and I did. Yet, the weenies were still allowed to clutter up the discussion thread yesterday with their crap. Seems a bit off to me.

Lolz to you and the Trixie meme, it is played out.

Also, you do a lot of complaining about posts yourself, perhaps you should go back and reread some of the things youve said in past events before you start pointing fingers.

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I think one of the problems with analysis threads is caused by posters like me and others. Most of the time I try and add substance but I'm guilty as charged with making "banterish" posts and replying to "banterish" posts. This kinda opens the flood gate at times. Then the regulars who add substance call out those who don't when it starts getting cluttered. It is a double standard and I'm sure everyone knows what I'm talking about.

I think if we want clean analysis threads then there has to be zero tolerance for anything else. That's prob not gonna happen though. No biggie really. I kinda like some of the banter in the analysis threads. It's really time conversation when things are looking good. Keeping it totally dry isn't as fun. Just mho.

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I think one of the problems with analysis threads is caused by posters like me and others. Most of the time I try and add substance but I'm guilty as charged with making "banterish" posts and replying to "banterish" posts. This kinda opens the flood gate at times. Then the regulars who add substance call out those who don't when it starts getting cluttered. It is a double standard and I'm sure everyone knows what I'm talking about.

I think if we want clean analysis threads then there has to be zero tolerance for anything else. That's prob not gonna happen though. No biggie really. I kinda like some of the banter in the analysis threads. It's really time conversation when things are looking good. Keeping it totally dry isn't as fun. Just mho.

and/or the mods could step up and crack down on it more.

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I meant to post this last week but Ian that was my wife you got caught tweeting by on Metro then. Small world.

I told her to blame this bad winter on you if she ever runs into you again.

*goes back to lurking, learning*

Ha, good to know. :) I posted something about being careful what you tweet because you never know who else is looking at Twitter and she responded that her husband was on American. Tis a small world...

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Ha, good to know. :) I posted something about being careful what you tweet because you never know who else is looking at Twitter and she responded that her husband was on American. Tis a small world...

Yeah I can get pretty snarky about random people on Twitter, this definitely gave me pause, because I don't really feel like getting punched in the face randomly over a tweet! :axe:

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Yeah I can get pretty snarky about random people on Twitter, this definitely gave me pause, because I don't really feel like getting punched in the face randomly over a tweet! :axe:

I guess I should stop my girls in yoga pants tweets. ;)

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It's pretty obvious that model forecasts beyond about 4 days right now is pretty much like throwing darts.

Blindfolded.

Has nobody looked at the GFS mean for Saturday?

I haven't seen the members, but, hmmmmmm.

Can someone tell me why these two back to back posts shouldn't be criticized?

:facepalm:

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We should drop the whole "weenie given his own thread" thing. To start it's not like threads are flying off the pages here and also while his overall idea was apparently very flawed some knowledgables gave him at least half a point of credit. If some of you had ignored the thread it would have gotten like 4 responses and disappeared.

It's not logical that we have less weenies than other subforums but the weenies here are not dealt with.

There are going to be people here with varying levels of knowledge. American/Eastern have never been a place where newbies are coddled but there's no reason to go out of your way to make people feel dumb.

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We should drop the whole "weenie given his own thread" thing. To start it's not like threads are flying off the pages here and also while his overall idea was apparently very flawed some knowledgables gave him at least half a point of credit. If some of you had ignored the thread it would have gotten like 4 responses and disappeared.

It's not logical that we have less weenies than other subforums but the weenies here are not dealt with.

There are going to be people here with varying levels of knowledge. American/Eastern have never been a place where newbies are coddled but there's no reason to go out of your way to make people feel dumb.

You know, you can just call me out rather than speak to the group as a whole. ;)

But I am glad you can admit the weenies here are not dealt with as they are in other subforums.

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Since this is a banter thread, figured I would throw in a photo of one of my Rhododendrons with a few blooms... on February 7! I have never seen this bush with blooms this early. Given how the winter has gone, I wouldn't be surprised to see a widespread, severe arctic outbreak, with our coldest temperatures of the season sometime later in March.

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You know, you can just call me out rather than speak to the group as a whole. ;)

But I am glad you can admit the weenies here are not dealt with as they are in other subforums.

i dont think i said that

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i think so. i was tempted to just ignore the whole thing but im not sure why you keep bringing that stuff up.

I keep bringing it up? I was called out for being a big meanie, Trixie 2 and drama queen for calling out weenies with their stupidity. I listed my reasons for doing so.

But, if you feel you and the other mods are doing a fine job at keeping our weenies in check, then by all means... please, carry on.

I'll keep my comments to myself and will be sure not bog down any discussion thread with worthless posts.

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Since this is a banter thread, figured I would throw in a photo of one of my Rhododendrons with a few blooms... on February 7! I have never seen this bush with blooms this early. Given how the winter has gone, I wouldn't be surprised to see a widespread, severe arctic outbreak, with our coldest temperatures of the season sometime later in March.

That's a pretty nice photo. Not that I know jack about photography but it would be near perfect if you got the bloom in just a bit tighter focus. I really like the soft focus in the backround too.

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That's a pretty nice photo. Not that I know jack about photography but it would be near perfect if you got the bloom in just a bit tighter focus. I really like the soft focus in the backround too.

Agreed... however, that's at the minimum focus distance for the lens I was shooting with. I do plan on purchasing a macro lens at some point before Spring gets here is earnest. Once we get into Tulip season, that's when I really get into photographing flowers. I just had to photograph this one, given how unusual it is. And this bush is on the northwest side of the house that spends most of the day in the shade. I can't imagine how far along it would be if it were growing on the south side of the house.

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We should drop the whole "weenie given his own thread" thing. To start it's not like threads are flying off the pages here and also while his overall idea was apparently very flawed some knowledgables gave him at least half a point of credit. If some of you had ignored the thread it would have gotten like 4 responses and disappeared.

It's not logical that we have less weenies than other subforums but the weenies here are not dealt with.

There are going to be people here with varying levels of knowledge. American/Eastern have never been a place where newbies are coddled but there's no reason to go out of your way to make people feel dumb.

The whole BB thread was a fiasco from the start. I do take umbrage with how some were supposed to ignore a grandiose statement made and expect that no one else on the whole board would not comment as well.

I will give you that there are a few of us who see certain things made by some and criticize immediately, myself included. But I feel that it was warranted given who made it.

I would say to your second point that we may have less weenies but for OUR area they can be vocal. Could more be done? Absolutely.

My only effort in any of me being a "meanie" towards others is for them to self reflect a bit and maybe understand that they themselves should try and improve as opposed to us tolerating their mental diarrhea.

One other comment. It is unfair for others to soley accuse mapgirl of being mean towards others.

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The whole BB thread was a fiasco from the start. I do take umbrage with how some were supposed to ignore a grandiose statement made and expect that no one else on the whole board would not comment as well.

I will give you that there are a few of us who see certain things made by some and criticize immediately, myself included. But I feel that it was warranted given who made it.

I would say to your second point that we may have less weenies but for OUR area they can be vocal. Could more be done? Absolutely.

My only effort in any of me being a "meanie" towards others is for them to self reflect a bit and maybe understand that they themselves should try and improve as opposed to us tolerating their mental diarrhea.

One other comment. It is unfair for others to soley accuse mapgirl of being mean towards others.

i think you guys are making a way bigger deal out of it than is necessary. he's gone now anyway. i don't go out of my way looking for people to attack for being morons. i don't 100% agree with phineas but i think some things are relatively clear to people who post here often. im not accusing mapgirl of anything personally... i just don't tend to agree that there is a big "weenie problem" in this subforum.

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... i just don't tend to agree that there is a big "weenie problem" in this subforum.

I agree with you on this and it's really not a big deal. At least to me it isn't. The only time I get irritated (and only a little bit at that) is when I'm trying to catch up in an analysis thread when it's busy. That does get annoying. I remember when I started posted more than once in a while and some of my posts would be deleted on contact. I figured it out pretty quickly and knocked it off.

Do you guys still do that on a regular basis? Just clean stuff up on contact? Mods and admins never told me why my stuff was deleted so I kinda had to figure it out on my own. Probably not worth the time and energy but maybe it would help if you guys just deleted stuff and sent explanations to some of the more prolific bad posters. You may do this already.

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i think you guys are making a way bigger deal out of it than is necessary. he's gone now anyway. i don't go out of my way looking for people to attack for being morons. i don't 100% agree with phineas but i think some things are relatively clear to people who post here often. im not accusing mapgirl of anything personally... i just don't tend to agree that there is a big "weenie problem" in this subforum.

I wonder how bad it would get if there's a big storm at some point.

A lot of that however is something I've noticed over the years - bad posters get banned from one forum and end up getting banned here. Then probably go onto another forum.

I think the filter's a pretty good option. The other great idea is this - the banter thread.

One thing - most of the time when an individual poster gets a big negative reaction, those who react to them eventually are proven correct. Bad posters are pretty good at making big mistakes at some point, and part of that is they feel like they are enabled to post crap. Then it gets worse and eventually they have to be five posted or banned or whatever. That's why I cringe a bit if a bad poster gets defended. There is something to be said for the saying "don't encourage them."

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I agree with you on this and it's really not a big deal. At least to me it isn't. The only time I get irritated (and only a little bit at that) is when I'm trying to catch up in an analysis thread when it's busy. That does get annoying. I remember when I started posted more than once in a while and some of my posts would be deleted on contact. I figured it out pretty quickly and knocked it off.

Do you guys still do that on a regular basis? Just clean stuff up on contact? Mods and admins never told me why my stuff was deleted so I kinda had to figure it out on my own. Probably not worth the time and energy but maybe it would help if you guys just deleted stuff and sent explanations to some of the more prolific bad posters. You may do this already.

In storm mode, I think they still do. When I was on staff at Eastern, you had to do that. There just wasn't any time. The bad posts kept coming and coming. Ever see Starship Troopers? You know the scene in the fort where the alien spiders kept on attacking. Yeah, kind of like that.

I think you've become a good poster. You're a good example. You thought about it and made a change. It's not that hard, really.

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