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2012 Winter Banter Thread #2


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Correct me if I'm wrong, but in 2009-2010 winter, each of our big snowstorms was preceded by a major snow in Iowa about 5-7 days earlier. If Iowa gets a nice snowfall this week, it may be a signal that our storm is coming about 5-7 days later. I know, this is quite a stretch, but I seem to recall that correlation in the 2009-2010 winter.

Disclaimer: I am a snow starved weenie grasping at straws here and I do not have a mathematical formula or even the time necessary to go back and find the exact dates of the Iowa snowfalls prior to each of the DC snowfalls that winter. Just a correlation I seem to recall.

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I just saw that parts of Maine are under a WWA for 6-10." I know warning criteria differs by location/CWA, but what the hell is warning criteria up there? I would have thought 6-10" would be considered enough for a warning, even in Northern Maine. :blink:

. Folks in northern Maine are not sissies like mid atlanticers.
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I just saw that parts of Maine are under a WWA for 6-10." I know warning criteria differs by location/CWA, but what the hell is warning criteria up there? I would have thought 6-10" would be considered enough for a warning, even in Northern Maine. :blink:

It depends. If it's 6-10" in a 12 hour period, then it is a warning. If it takes longer, then a warning isn't needed unless it's at least 10".

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Interesting that thr DC/Baltimore metro area needs a higher snowfall total that West Virginia and SW Virginia for a Warning. You would think it would be the opposite.

Keep in mind that this is the 24 hour warning criteria. It's much more common to get our snowfalls in 12 hours periods or less so the 12 hr criteria is much more relevant

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This.

Preferably put the entire month of august into the icebox.

Perhaps RodneyS, Ian or zwyts could answer this since they have such a natural affinity for recalling past weather events, but in the years I've lived in Maryland (81-99, 09-present), I really can't recall periods with -20F departures in summer. I recall often having days like this in winter, but I don't recall any days in late July or early August with lows in the upper 40s and highs in the upper 60s. I remember a few coolish days in June from time to time, but never in the dog dayz of summer in mid July-early August.

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Worst seasonal forecast ever?

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Hands down, AccuWeather.com's long-range experts agree that the Midwest and Great Lakes region will be dealt the worst of winter this year.

Bitterly cold blasts of arctic air are expected to invade the northern Plains, Midwest and Great Lakes from December through January, while snowfall averages above normal. "A couple of heavy hitters are possible [during this time]," Pastelok said in relation to the snow.

http://www.crh.noaa....=78489&source=0

Record Warm Fall and Winter - So Far

Based on the preliminary data the period of September 1st 2011 through January 31st 2012 is the warmest for the Fargo Area, the Grand Forks Airport and the University of North Dakota/ NWS location. Below are the tables that tell the story.

Fargo Area (ThreadEx Station)

Extremes

Highest Average Average Temperature degrees F

Days: 9/1 - 1/31

Length of period: 153 days

Years: 1881-2012

Rank Value Ending Date

1 38.1 2012

2 36.5 2006

3 36.0 1932

4 35.8 2002

5 35.5 1964

6 35.4 1995

7 34.9 1942, 1944

9 34.8 1921

10 34.3 2007

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Worst seasonal forecast ever?

Well...the Pacific NW forecast is not bad. In a bit of fairness, CPC also went cold for the northern plains when hugging La Nina climo. But, lest we forget my old buddy at Accuwx who predicted a mass exodus from Chicago after this brutal winter. ;)

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Perhaps RodneyS, Ian or zwyts could answer this since they have such a natural affinity for recalling past weather events, but in the years I've lived in Maryland (81-99, 09-present), I really can't recall periods with -20F departures in summer. I recall often having days like this in winter, but I don't recall any days in late July or early August with lows in the upper 40s and highs in the upper 60s. I remember a few coolish days in June from time to time, but never in the dog dayz of summer in mid July-early August.

The standard deviation is so much higher now than in the summer that comparing the magnitude of departures is kind of futile. Just looking at the record low highs in July, there are a lot of low 70s and upper 60s which are -20 departures, but I'm willing to bet those are mostly rainy days where the overnight lows are held up.

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