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2012 Winter Banter Thread #2


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Yeah it really amps that western ridge this run and lets the fun and games begin. 0z GFS says this winter won't go out without a serious fight.

I think you missed my post. I think it gives us a chance, but Verbatim it sucks. The western ridge looks nicer at the end of the run when it gets undercut and is no longer based in the tropics.

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I like weather and all (or else I wouldn't have 1000+ posts here), but perhaps I don't care enough about weather and the science behind it to get so worked up (and that's not a dig at those for whom weather is a real passion). I just don't like seeing people being nasty, especially in relative anonymity while sitting behind a keyboard. :(

No doubt he's being attacked by some, and legitimately questioned by others. Wes being the latter of the two!

You seem to be confusing "getting worked up" with asking to put up or shut up. Let's see how it all plays out before we hump BBs new math and start calling out others for being big bad meanies. I got odds that he will not want to accept that his "formula" doesnt work.

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You seem to be confusing "getting worked up" with asking to put up or shut up. Let's see how it all plays out before we hump BBs new math and start calling out others for being big bad meanies. I got odds that he will not want to accept that his "formula" doesnt work.

I don't think I am getting it confused. Some people are legitimately asking him to show some evidence. Others are just blasting him, and some are doing so while masquerading as asking for proof. I'm OK with letting it play out, and that BB will rightfully deserve to be called out if his forecast doesn't work out. Nonetheless, any such calling out should at least be done with some modicum of respectfulness.

That said, I'm happy to leave this discussion now.

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This makes absolutely no sense. Why am I being called out for saying that people shouldn't be nasty?

Im with you on this one...in the old days we just made fun of people with humor...it seems different now...BB isnt the first one like this...eh.who cares i guess...i dont much but i guess i do a little since i posted but mostly i dont

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This makes absolutely no sense. Why am I being called out for saying that people shouldn't be nasty?

Who has been nasty to him? I've seen no one say his formula is ridiculous, stupid, wrong, etc. People have questioned it, as it should be. Hell, even Trixie hasn't been nasty to him she has just asked him to post his formula with numerical values.

Look, when Wes points out that his method has no scientific value behind it, you know something ain't right.

But again, feel free to defend him and jump on his bandwagon.

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Who has been nasty to him? I've seen no one say his formula is ridiculous, stupid, wrong, etc. People have questioned it, as it should be. Hell, even Trixie hasn't been nasty to him she has just asked him to post his formula with numerical values.

Look, when Wes points out that his method has no scientific value behind it, you know something ain't right.

But again, feel free to defend him and jump on his bandwagon.

I don't care how he got there. He could have used an abacus, box of paperclips, and some duct tape.........I'm ridin the 30"+ Feb call........well, at least 3" Feb......ummm, .3"? eh, whatever

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I don't care how he got there. He could have used an abacus, box of paperclips, and some duct tape.........I'm ridin the 30"+ Feb call........well, at least 3" Feb......ummm, .3"? eh, whatever

:lol:

At least you can admit you are being a weenie with his call.

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:lol:

At least you can admit you are being a weenie with his call.

In bb's defense, he tries pretty hard. He reads a fair amount of research and comes to his own conclusions. Right or wrong, it's better than saying mark x on the calendar and bring a shovel. He likes the attention that bold calls bring and this most recent one is a piece of art.

I'm a right wing weenie. I keep letting reality get in the way but hey, that's just me.

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In bb's defense, he tries pretty hard. He reads a fair amount of research and comes to his own conclusions. Right or wrong, it's better than saying mark x on the calendar and bring a shovel. He likes the attention that bold calls bring and this most recent one is a piece of art.

I'm a right wing weenie. I keep letting reality get in the way but hey, that's just me.

This! I agree with what HM said in that it is good for BB to try and do something new with the weather field. HOWEVER, he hasn't proved his new formula is actually correct, I want to see some values thrown in there and see how it all breaks down.

But he is an attention whore to the fullest, he always has been... why would he embellish observations like he does if he didn't like the attention he gets from it?

Anyone who doesn't see that is just silly - or I am just a big meanie and that's that.

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In bb's defense, he tries pretty hard. He reads a fair amount of research and comes to his own conclusions. Right or wrong, it's better than saying mark x on the calendar and bring a shovel. He likes the attention that bold calls bring and this most recent one is a piece of art.

I'm a right wing weenie. I keep letting reality get in the way but hey, that's just me.

If BB has actually found something then it will be proven. The problem is that a lot of his premise is based on CC stuff that is questionable in itself. Again, i say that if he is right then it is a good thing that a discussion will come from it but to blindly say(not you) that we are all being meanies because we are skeptical is just wrong.

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Im with you on this one...in the old days we just made fun of people with humor...it seems different now...BB isnt the first one like this...eh.who cares i guess...i dont much but i guess i do a little since i posted but mostly i dont

I wonder if Ruggie and Chuck would think it was all funny. Give Chuck credit in that when he presented some of his stuff he had loads and loads of well accepted data that he used. We don't have much as of yet with what BB is presenting.

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If BB has actually found something then it will be proven. The problem is that a lot of his premise is based on CC stuff that is questionable in itself. Again, i say that if he is right then it is a good thing that a discussion will come from it but to blindly say(not you) that we are all being meanies because we are skeptical is just wrong.

Absolutely. Even if he is right I don't think I'll ever understand why but hey, I'd consider trading in one of my kids for 3' of snow next month. I mean seriously, I have 4 kids and a dog so we might not even notice one gone for a while.

My defense for bb wasn't really aimed at people being big meanies because for one, it appears to me a more civilized back and forth than usualy and two, he enjoys every minute of it no matter what the tone is. I was just basically agreeing with HM and my own opinions of board content. When you add cool research papers and neat colored graphics to a post it's immediately more credible than mark your calendar.

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Im with you on this one...in the old days we just made fun of people with humor...it seems different now...BB isnt the first one like this...eh.who cares i guess...i dont much but i guess i do a little since i posted but mostly i dont

You mean like when Ruggie got so mad that he left and started another board? Or when OWS Kevin Martin had to be banned due to threatening rants because people mocked him? Or when Martinsville Kevin left and spent months trashing us for being mean on his blog?

Thems were the days.

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Question for the BB defenders. If he came out and called for little to no snow for the rest of the winter based on this new formula would y'all have given him the time of day? My guess is no.

He came in and JB'd the rest of winter and instant snow love

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Absolutely. Even if he is right I don't think I'll ever understand why but hey, I'd consider trading in one of my kids for 3' of snow next month. I mean seriously, I have 4 kids and a dog so we might not even notice one gone for a while.

My defense for bb wasn't really aimed at people being big meanies because for one, it appears to me a more civilized back and forth than usualy and two, he enjoys every minute of it no matter what the tone is. I was just basically agreeing with HM and my own opinions of board content. When you add cool research papers and neat colored graphics to a post it's immediately more credible than mark your calendar.

I'm all for sound discussion and new ideas. Hell, I bought Chuck's ideas hook line and sinker when I first joined. Those didn't work out too well so lessoned learned.

All i can hope for out of this would be everyone learning from the wx talk about it. that includes BB as well but i have a feeling he will defend his ideas regardless of how wrong(or right) they are.

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You mean like when Ruggie got so mad that he left and started another board? Or when OWS Kevin Martin had to be banned due to threatening rants because people mocked him? Or when Martinsville Kevin left and spent months trashing us for being mean on his blog?

Thems were the days.

Exactly....and all we did was make fun....fun being the key word...seriously if BB was able to back up his ideas with some serious science....how many of us would really know...this is some funny s hit and I honestly am wondering if it's all a joke.

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Question for the BB defenders. If he came out and called for little to no snow for the rest of the winter based on this new formula would y'all have given him the time of day? My guess is no.

He came in and JB'd the rest of winter and instant snow love

I'm trying to figure out who is defending him....i'm calling for us to make fun of him.

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Question for the BB defenders. If he came out and called for little to no snow for the rest of the winter based on this new formula would y'all have given him the time of day? My guess is no.

He came in and JB'd the rest of winter and instant snow love

Just from what I've read, I am not sure that anyone defends BB's forecast idea. They might just think that a boxing match should be stopped when a fighter is completely overwhelmed, even if he isn't smart enough to stop it himself.

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Your first post seemed as if you were defending him.

I'm defending the process of how we dealt with this stuff years ago...back when the board was a bit more fun than it is now....that dude turned me off when he made some comments on 40s....to be honest I'm not sure why you and Andy have such a hard on for BB but no matter...I am not relevant on this board anymore...not that I ever was...but it just seems odd to me....and not really fun.

peace

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I'm defending the process of how we dealt with this stuff years ago...back when the board was a bit more fun than it is now....that dude turned me off when he made some comments on 40s....to be honest I'm not sure why you and Andy have such a hard on for BB but no matter...I am not relevant on this board anymore...not that I ever was...but it just seems odd to me....and not really fun.

peace

lolz

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