ag3 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Nam a little drier with clipper. .10" line starts on Queens/Nassau border and east. Also all of SWCT is in the .10"+ area. NYC is probably .08"-.09". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 T...you should have listened to NOAA radio in the 70's out of Rockefeller Center...other than Sussex, Warren, Morris, (which were under NWS NYC authority back then)...W Passaic, N Westchester and Rockland Counties...they considered everyone else "the coast"...<Orange and Putnam were not in the CWA then> Which CWA was Orange in back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzardo Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I come to look for info on the upcoming chance of snow and all talk about past storms... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchel Volk Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I put the coastal zone south off I-287. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchel Volk Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I put the coastal zone south off I-287. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkrangers Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I put the coastal zone south off I-287. Everything south and east of Buffalo this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JERSEYSNOWROB Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I was about to make this long a** post about the coastal plain but my god-d*mn wife, kids and now new puppy are doing their best to distract me. In any event, yeah this map shows where the typical battle ground is between warm/rain and cold/snow during our storms. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I was about to make this long a** post about the coastal plain but my god-d*mn wife, kids and now new puppy are doing their best to distract me. In any event, yeah this map shows where the typical battle ground is between warm/rain and cold/snow during our storms. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out though. That should extend into SE New England as well. In "typical" winters and snow/rain events, often Boston gets shafted as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I moved to Long Island 41 years ago and have never been to Long Beach...or Riverhead. Where did you reside prior to your move to Long Island? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 That should extend into SE New England as well. In "typical" winters and snow/rain events, often Boston gets shafted as well. I was gonna say the same thing... and the line should extend further NW into Westchester/NE NJ & Rockland.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JERSEYSNOWROB Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 That should extend into SE New England as well. In "typical" winters and snow/rain events, often Boston gets shafted as well. Yeah I guess you could include coastal CT and RI too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JERSEYSNOWROB Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 BTW that map outlines the actual coastal plain, technically speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 0z GFS is still all rain for the overrunning event. Maybe some snow to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 GFS is a little colder for the weekend event - not a major change yet, but hopefully a trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 GFS is a little colder for the weekend event - not a major change yet, but hopefully a trend. The freezing line is barely north of NYC http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appcontroller?prevPage=Model&MainPage=indexℑ=&page=Param&cycle=01%2F18%2F2012+00UTC&rname=SFC-LAYER+PARMS&pname=10m_wnd_precip&pdesc=&model=GFS&area=NAMER&cat=MODEL+GUIDANCE&fcast=096&areaDesc=North+America+-+US+Canada+and+northern+Mexico&prevArea=NAMER&currKey=model&returnToModel=&imageSize=M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Gfs is colder for the Saturday storm....starts the area off as snow...then rain city and coast....nw and sne get a good accumulating snow fall...also Sunday it Trys to bring a second low up the coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 The freezing line is barely north of NYC http://mag.ncep.noaa...el=&imageSize=M Yes, and some of that may even be snow for both of us. Tonight's Euro run will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Gfs is colder for the Saturday storm....starts the area off as snow...then rain city and coast....nw and sne get a good accumulating snow fall...also Sunday it Trys to bring a second low up the coast Cold surface temps and 850s above 0 for the second wave. Could be icy if happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I wouldn't be shocked to see the GFS trend colder. The AO is trending downward which will help this storm out. The GFS also has a 1025+ high up north. This run looks like Snow or Ice to rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 In fairness...I can never rememeber "driving down" say the Seaford Oyster Bay Expressway when Plainview just eeked out a snowstorm to see if say Massapequa got mostly rain...so my memory...plus a few other things...might be slightly skewed. Also, as a person afflicted by cynicism (and this hobby played no small role in cultivating that characteristic) I tend to recall the near misses more than the near hits...though Carlin would likely argue there is no difference between the two... I can. After the big storm at the end of March 1984, I drove with my girlfriend from her parent's house in Massapequa where there was no snow on the ground up to north Syosset (near 25A) to show her the 8 - 10" that was on the ground there. There were other times, but that was one heck of a trip up 135. Despite that rampant weenieism, we eventually married Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 We have some decent cold air in place for this storm....perhaps we can pull... off a febuary 08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 We have some decent cold air in place for this storm....perhaps we can pull... off a febuary 08 I was talking about this storm before to some people. The models kept on converging both waves. In the end, both of the waves never merged and the area received 7-9 inches of snow. 1-3 inches was only forecasted. Here's Feb 22,2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 ...this was where the surface low went eastward south of Long Island...reached Montauk...and then started heading back west through Long Island Sound towards the Westchester coast...the winds on LI were now westerly with the low to the north and cold enought for snow...but in southern CT. with the low moving through the Sound...the winds remained easterly and warm enough for rain...especially east of say Bridgeport. I remember not flipping to snow here until the winds went SSW after the low occluded and moved west of here. That was a wild event. We rained for a day and then managed a foot of snow on mostly southerly winds. Unique! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 0z GGEM has a similiar track as the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 0z GEFS has the clipper a little more wetter for the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 0z GEFS has the clipper a little more wetter for the area. What about the weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 What about the weekend? Slightly colder than the op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiksports Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 CMC is so close, perhaps the fact that the storm arrives during the day is hurting us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 CMC is so close, perhaps the fact that the storm arrives during the day is hurting us? The high is further to the northwest than what the GFS and GEFS just showed. Also, it looks a tad north than the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiksports Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Nice snowstorm for Boston on the 00Z GGEM, rain snow line sets up in North Central PA and extreme Northern New Jersey, with the costal plain getting rain except for the east facing shores of New England. Verbatim, it shows a light rain/snow mix transitioning very quickly to rain in NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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