phlwx Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 GFS looks similar to the NAM. Looks like all frozen in SE PA, and hopefully a good thump of snow. 850 line blows by your house by 10 AM. Gonna be tough to be all snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 http://www.erh.noaa..../stormtotal.php why do they make it so hard to find, if I had a dollar for every person I know who have asked me where do you find the storm total map I would be a rich man....Mt Holly needs to do something about that and clearly label it on the side panel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 thats not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 why do they make it so hard to find, if I had a dollar for every person I know who have asked me where do you find the storm total map I would be a rich man....Mt Holly needs to do something about that and clearly label it on the side panel There is a link for the snow/ice total maps right on the homepage, above the watch/warning/advisory map with all the other links. It is in the same place where it was previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Still a decent warm punch aloft by 15z on the GFS just northwest of PHL.....steadiest precip. should be exiting around or just after that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 850 line blows by your house by 10 AM. Gonna be tough to be all snow. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 sv snow maps has 2-4 for everyone from del river west, excepts central chester county west is 4-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastonwx Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 why do they make it so hard to find, if I had a dollar for every person I know who have asked me where do you find the storm total map I would be a rich man....Mt Holly needs to do something about that and clearly label it on the side panel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 sv snow maps has 2-4 for everyone from del river west, excepts central chester county west is 4-8 any input for the Edison area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 sv snow maps has 2-4 for everyone from del river west, excepts central chester county west is 4-8 Seems right in line with the NWS map. higher elevations of Chester Co. and up toward the Lehigh Valley cash in the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Agreed. Maybe some ice but definitely shows 2-4 inches first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyweather Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Hurricane shows 5-8 for LV and poconos CBS3 shows 3-6 for LVand poconos TWC has 3 different snow maps LOL (either 5-8, 3-6, or 6-12) for the LV , take your pick lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feb Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 sv snow maps has 2-4 for everyone from del river west, excepts central chester county west is 4-8 I'm thinking about 4" here in Lancaster County. Also Tom, is that from the Nam or GFS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 any input for the Edison area you are in the 2-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White_Mtn_Wx Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Seems right in line with the NWS map. higher elevations of Chester Co. and up toward the Lehigh Valley cash in the most. Sweet. We usually do quite well in these type of events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I'm thinking about 4" here in Lancaster County. Also Tom, is that from the Nam or GFS? this is gfs, the nam has 3-6 for the whole region from del river west and i95 west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 one thing that is prettty good, dp are in the single digitis, granted we may lose some precip to virga, but temps are gonna fall a good 3-4 degrees with the onset of precip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 The ECMWF soundings for PHL look interesting. Looks like mostly snow with just a window of opportunity for some sleet or freezing rain. its going to be interesting which models is correct. The gfs and nam are not as bullish as the euro with snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feb Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 this is gfs, the nam has 3-6 for the whole region from del river west and i95 west Thanks Tom. I just had the dog our for a walk and it sure is cold out. I have a hard time believing anything other then snow or sleet falls across a good chunk of the area. If pure liquid falls at some point, it will ice up very fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dssbss Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Figure about 4 just outside of reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porsche Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Thanks Tom. I just had the dog our for a walk and it sure is cold out. I have a hard time believing anything other then snow or sleet falls across a good chunk of the area. If pure liquid falls at some point, it will ice up very fast. I'm thinking if it ices up just enough it could make for some great sledding though, although the weenie in me says I want all snow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feb Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I'm thinking if it ices up just enough it could make for some great sledding though, although the weenie in me says I want all snow! Me too! I think we get a little sleet at the end but i'm thinking mainly snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 gfs ens mean is a little colder compared to 12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 why do they make it so hard to find, if I had a dollar for every person I know who have asked me where do you find the storm total map I would be a rich man....Mt Holly needs to do something about that and clearly label it on the side panel There is a link for the snow/ice total maps right on the homepage, above the watch/warning/advisory map with all the other links. It is in the same place where it was previously. Mike - the snow map links could be improved. Maybe just put the words "snow map" under the icon now labelled "winter weather" - it's much more descriptive. Or, there is room for an icon/map in the space next to the main CWA map. Another question: why all caps for the AFDs? In the internet world, caps usually mean shouting and are hard to read. Just curious if it's a conscious decision or just habit. Last question: as far as I can tell, the AFD and snowfall map links are "dynamic" links that when posted to a message board or included in an email (I link to NWS stuff a lot) only point to the current version, such that once the link on the NWS page is updated, the "old" link I posted/sent out no longer points to the "old" information, but to updated information - is there any way to have the link retain its historical significance (i.e., to still point to the info/graphic originally targeted)? Thanks, in advance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Mike - the snow map links could be improved. Maybe just put the words "snow map" under the icon now labelled "winter weather" - it's much more descriptive. Or, there is room for an icon/map in the space next to the main CWA map. The link pops up on the homepage when a storm total snow/ice map is generated and sent. This link is placed in the links section which is above the map. The icon as you mentioned also takes you to the storm total maps, and this is new this season. It was probably labeled the way it is as there is a snow and also an ice storm total map. I do not know much about the IT side, however I do know there are size/space limits and where things can be placed on the homepages. There is a team looking into updating and improving the NWS homepages, but I am not exactly sure where that stands as of now. Another question: why all caps for the AFDs? In the internet world, caps usually mean shouting and are hard to read. Just curious if it's a conscious decision or just habit. This goes back many, many, many years (I believe during the teletype time). Not exactly sure why the NWS products are still in all caps but there has been some testing of regular text in other regions of the NWS. I must say though, having it in all caps allows most people to type things faster. Getting rid of the all caps would have to come basically from headquarters. Last question: as far as I can tell, the AFD and snowfall map links are "dynamic" links that when posted to a message board or included in an email (I link to NWS stuff a lot) only point to the current version, such that once the link on the NWS page is updated, the "old" link I posted/sent out no longer points to the "old" information, but to updated information - is there any way to have the link retain its historical significance (i.e., to still point to the info/graphic originally targeted)? Thanks, in advance... I am not exactly sure about this as some of the graphics do not have previous version options (some graphics are posted as needed). Others like the AFD have several versions that can be found under the appropriate link, but these are more 'drynamic' because of the previous versions being available. There are web sites out there where previous products (at least text) can always be obtained. You can always save the text product or graphic and store it on your own computer/device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 The link pops up on the homepage when a storm total snow/ice map is generated and sent. This link is placed in the links section which is above the map. The icon as you mentioned also takes you to the storm total maps, and this is new this season. It was probably labeled the way it is as there is a snow and also an ice storm total map. I do not know much about the IT side, however I do know there are size/space limits and where things can be placed on the homepages. There is a team looking into updating and improving the NWS homepages, but I am not exactly sure where that stands as of now. This goes back many, many, many years (I believe during the teletype time). Not exactly sure why the NWS products are still in all caps but there has been some testing of regular text in other regions of the NWS. I must say though, having it in all caps allows most people to type things faster. Getting rid of the all caps would have to come basically from headquarters. I am not exactly sure about this as some of the graphics do not have previous version options (some graphics are posted as needed). Others like the AFD have several versions that can be found under the appropriate link, but these are more 'drynamic' because of the previous versions being available. There are web sites out there where previous products (at least text) can always be obtained. You can always save the text product or graphic and store it on your own computer/device. Mike - thanks very much for the prompt and informative replies; the one I'm most interested in is the links - I know I can always save a screen shot/PDF, but man, it would be so much more convenient if the link just retained its time relevance. Now get back to work and make it snow. :>) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 00z NAM has its snowing at a good pace across the entire area by 9z (as expected). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 By 12z Sat, 850mb freezing line is close to where they were progged on the 18z run. Maybe a smidge further south (not much though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 15z also a touch colder at 850 mb across SE PA and Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 15z also a touch colder at 850 mb across SE PA and Jersey. Hopefully this small difference will result in less of a changeover here in the suburbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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