Parsley Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 lol @ this map. Totally disregarding the ZR threat. Awful. bad choice of words on that map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsu_wxgirl Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 bad choice of words on that map I don't think that's a bad choice of words as much as it's very difficult to determine where the sleet/freezing rain line will be....I might would have put ice in place of sleet because you aren't going to have to drive far to see a changeover from sleet to freezing rain. But other than that I don't think this graphic is that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I don't think that's a bad choice of words as much as it's very difficult to determine where the sleet/freezing rain line will be....I might would have put ice in place of sleet because you aren't going to have to drive far to see a changeover from sleet to freezing rain. But other than that I don't think this graphic is that bad. Agreed, they should have simply added "freezing rain to the zone coded snow/sleet/rain. Zone wise its fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 no ice from our big daddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cast4 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 no ice from our big daddy lol @ Henry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodd321 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 NNM and WRF both are much colder than nam and gfs. 850s never get above m-d line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcutter Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 NNM and WRF both are much colder than nam and gfs. 850s never get above m-d line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 the euro is a little warmer for the region, but colder than the gfs and nam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 the euro is a little warmer for the region, but colder than the gfs and nam Maybe warmer because more precip? As long as it's colder than the GFS and NAM, I'm happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodd321 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 the euro is a little warmer for the region, but colder than the gfs and nam Hm I was thinking it was colder? I'm looking at hr 24 on SV maps and it looks like 850s go through south jersey and surface are right on 95? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 From earthlight in NYC forum. High res models appear to show minimal change over at tail end in extreme SE PA. All snow just NW http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/COMPRAD4_12z/cloop.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am19psu Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I wish all of you could see the goofy grin Adam keeps giving me based off the 12z GFS.... Now who is making the goofy grin? Euro has 4" in PHL and to the NW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Now who is making the goofy grin? Euro has 4" in PHL and to the NW Any mixing or changing to ice any where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am19psu Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Any mixing or changing to ice any where? South and east of PHL. Not much except just at the tail end for the NW burbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 South and east of PHL. Not much except just at the tail end for the NW burbs Euro is the least icy of the models... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsu_wxgirl Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Now who is making the goofy grin? Euro has 4" in PHL and to the NW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslotted Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 From earthlight in NYC forum. High res models appear to show minimal change over at tail end in extreme SE PA. All snow just NW http://www.meteo.psu..._12z/cloop.html Looks like a few hours of zr/ip for the immed. S&E suburbs of Phila.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslotted Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 dryslotted likes this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodd321 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Now who is making the goofy grin? Euro has 4" in PHL and to the NW Knew it looked colder. Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcutter Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 DT's map................... http://1664596.sites.myregisteredsite.com/meteorology/LAST.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Hm I was thinking it was colder? I'm looking at hr 24 on SV maps and it looks like 850s go through south jersey and surface are right on 95? its deff a little warmer, not a huge amount but a hair warmer but it has more precip, thus more frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Maybe I should get my snowblower ready just in case. Or will that jinx us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCT777 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 DT's map................... http://1664596.sites...rology/LAST.jpg Looks pretty good, IMO. I would have extended the sleet/rain area to the NJ coast, made the 4 to 6 inch area 4 to 7 inches, and also connected the two areas in PA and interiro southern New Englad (as I think the NE PA, NW NJ and SE NY areas in between the max accum areas on his map will also get 4 to 7 inches of snow). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 12 Z ECM Text output for selected areas.. ABE SAT 06Z 21-JAN -3.0 -7.9 1024 47 100 0.01 553 534 SAT 12Z 21-JAN -4.6 -5.0 1019 90 99 0.27 553 538 SAT 18Z 21-JAN -1.7 -2.3 1017 87 83 0.21 554 541 All snow .49 QPF KPHL SAT 12Z 21-JAN -1.1 -1.1 1017 91 94 0.20 556 543 SAT 18Z 21-JAN 0.6 0.7 1015 93 93 0.20 556 545 SUN 00Z 22-JAN -2.8 -0.6 1021 90 30 0.01 559 542 .41 total QPF All snow/sleet KRDG SAT 06Z 21-JAN -2.5 -6.6 1023 50 98 0.02 554 536 SAT 12Z 21-JAN -3.9 -3.4 1018 88 99 0.28 554 539 SAT 18Z 21-JAN -1.1 -1.5 1016 86 85 0.18 554 541 .48 total all snow KNYC SAT 12Z 21-JAN -0.5 -6.8 1020 83 97 0.20 553 537 SAT 18Z 21-JAN -0.9 -1.0 1016 91 96 0.29 554 541 SUN 00Z 22-JAN -4.1 -2.8 1022 86 8 0.03 556 539 .52 total all snow KAVP SAT 06Z 21-JAN -5.4 -10.0 1023 56 100 0.02 551 532 SAT 12Z 21-JAN -6.4 -7.3 1020 87 100 0.24 550 535 SAT 18Z 21-JAN -3.0 -4.9 1018 82 52 0.13 551 537 .39 total All snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 12 Z ECM Text output for selected areas.. ABE SAT 06Z 21-JAN -3.0 -7.9 1024 47 100 0.01 553 534 SAT 12Z 21-JAN -4.6 -5.0 1019 90 99 0.27 553 538 SAT 18Z 21-JAN -1.7 -2.3 1017 87 83 0.21 554 541 All snow .49 QPF KPHL SAT 12Z 21-JAN -1.1 -1.1 1017 91 94 0.20 556 543 SAT 18Z 21-JAN 0.6 0.7 1015 93 93 0.20 556 545 SUN 00Z 22-JAN -2.8 -0.6 1021 90 30 0.01 559 542 .41 total QPF All snow/sleet KRDG SAT 06Z 21-JAN -2.5 -6.6 1023 50 98 0.02 554 536 SAT 12Z 21-JAN -3.9 -3.4 1018 88 99 0.28 554 539 SAT 18Z 21-JAN -1.1 -1.5 1016 86 85 0.18 554 541 .48 total all snow KNYC SAT 12Z 21-JAN -0.5 -6.8 1020 83 97 0.20 553 537 SAT 18Z 21-JAN -0.9 -1.0 1016 91 96 0.29 554 541 SUN 00Z 22-JAN -4.1 -2.8 1022 86 8 0.03 556 539 .52 total all snow KAVP SAT 06Z 21-JAN -5.4 -10.0 1023 56 100 0.02 551 532 SAT 12Z 21-JAN -6.4 -7.3 1020 87 100 0.24 550 535 SAT 18Z 21-JAN -3.0 -4.9 1018 82 52 0.13 551 537 .39 total All snow thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslotted Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Maybe I should get my snowblower ready just in case. Or will that jinx us? I'll get mine ready too, and that will cancel it out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 The ECMWF soundings for PHL look interesting. Looks like mostly snow with just a window of opportunity for some sleet or freezing rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Juicy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Waking up (though hopefully I'll get some more sleep soon) to see the GFS and NAM warmer and the EC wetter. Which essentially means that for Trenton the forecast got harder. If you believe the NAM then its only an inch or two before the changeover... while the EC would argure 4-6. I guess that means I'll keep the 2-4 idea from yesterday... nervous it could end up on either side of that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodd321 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 NAM cooling down nicely from 12z. Good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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