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Upstate NY/North Country: Heart of Winter 2012


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The Dacks go west of Plattsburgh, lesser northern peaks...all under 4K. The northern most hill is Covey Hill just into Quebec. If they were quite impressive then maybe you were looking southwest enough to see Giant Mountain (4800' I think) which is on the eastern edge of the High Peaks along/west of I-87 between exit 30 and 31.

thanks for the orientation Rick.

i'll have to try and figure this out next time i take the drive in good light and conditions.

i'm not sure what i am seeing....there were a couple peaks that were nicely snowcapped, but perhaps they arent that impressive really....it may just be me since i am not used to being around elevation.

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.FREEZING RAIN ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM TO 2 PM EST

MONDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN ALBANY HAS ISSUED A FREEZING RAIN

ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM TO 2 PM EST MONDAY.

* LOCATIONS...WESTERN MOHAWK VALLEY...WESTERN AND SOUTHERN

ADIRONDACKS...AND THE LAKE GEORGE SARATOGA REGION.

* HAZARD TYPES...FREEZING DRIZZLE WITH A CHANCE OF LIGHT SLEET.

* ACCUMULATIONS...A LIGHT GLAZE OF ICE.

* TIMING...EARLY MONDAY MORNING INTO MONDAY AFTERNOON.

* IMPACTS...A GLAZE OF ICE LEADING TO SLIPPERY CONDITIONS ON

UNTREATED SURFACES...CAUSING POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS TRAVEL.

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took the drive up from VT through montreal and over to ottawa yesterday morning.

about 3 inches on the ground in northern VT and that amount steadily increased as i headed northward to about 6 inches in MTL city.

then as i headed westward from downtown MTL along the 417 all the way to east ottawa there was gradually increasing amounts, i'd say a peak of 12-16 (with higher drifts) just east of ottawa and through casselaman region

and then by the time i got into ottawa city and over to where my parents live in S ottawa, about 8-12 inches on the ground.... with drifted snowpack in the usual spots up to the 2 foot range as i walk around here in S ottawa. overall its a dense, fresh-looking snowpack with typical piling, very january-esque scene. the pack is not overly impressive in depth, but pretty solid and steady (since december 23) considering the type of winter being had.

this matches up well with Env Canada's reports of the heaviest snow last week being in eastern sections of ottawa, as well as Subzero's reports.

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Just got back from Whiteface.......think I have more snow IMBY..........ICY times up there :ski:

I heard more GORE was pretty good this weknd. Haven't skiied the face this year, I am waiting for that one magical day where it snows like 8 inches of dry powder and the next day its clear and windless. Its possible but rare.

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Makes sense.... There hasn't been any synoptic snowstorm with a general > 6" anywhere in the eastern half of NY or northern NY. Once you get away from hills where we have managed to amass 6"+ (barely) through many minor events, there is darn little snow cover. Today will finish that off in the valleys.

Central/Western NY had 6"+ in general from that storm last weekend, but I believe their propensity to torch wiped a lot of that away.

Ottawa has been just far enough north/northwest to be the only low elevation area with a snowpack.

took the drive up from VT through montreal and over to ottawa yesterday morning.

about 3 inches on the ground in northern VT and that amount steadily increased as i headed northward to about 6 inches in MTL city.

then as i headed westward from downtown MTL along the 417 all the way to east ottawa there was gradually increasing amounts, i'd say a peak of 12-16 (with higher drifts) just east of ottawa and through casselaman region

and then by the time i got into ottawa city and over to where my parents live in S ottawa, about 8-12 inches on the ground.... with drifted snowpack in the usual spots up to the 2 foot range as i walk around here in S ottawa. overall its a dense, fresh-looking snowpack with typical piling, very january-esque scene. the pack is not overly impressive in depth, but pretty solid and steady (since december 23) considering the type of winter being had.

this matches up well with Env Canada's reports of the heaviest snow last week being in eastern sections of ottawa, as well as Subzero's reports.

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I heard more GORE was pretty good this weknd. Haven't skiied the face this year, I am waiting for that one magical day where it snows like 8 inches of dry powder and the next day its clear and windless. Its possible but rare.

There was virtually no wind just below the summit of Whiteface on Sat. There was powder, but you can see they had a good soaking last week followed by a flash freeze
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Makes sense.... There hasn't been any synoptic snowstorm with a general > 6" anywhere in the eastern half of NY or northern NY. Once you get away from hills where we have managed to amass 6"+ (barely) through many minor events, there is darn little snow cover. Today will finish that off in the valleys.

Central/Western NY had 6"+ in general from that storm last weekend, but I believe their propensity to torch wiped a lot of that away.

Ottawa has been just far enough north/northwest to be the only low elevation area with a snowpack.

yes, and i want to correct that some parts of montreal, such as in the heat core and S sections only had about 3 or 4 inches.

and after walking around a bit more, id say a general 8-14 inches here in ottawa city.....tough to tell as the pack is variable from one spot to the next, there must have been a fair amount of wind with couple systems a week to 10 days ago.

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Both the US models now have a winter wx event for Thursday into early Friday. It's another marginal thing - reminds me of two weeks ago in that sense, but a better threat of wet snow further west than that time. Mostly liquid south/east of ALB. Stay tuned I guess.

It looks like something we'd expect around St. Patrick's Day and not in the dead of winter with a marginal wet snow event, but any snow is good snow.

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Yeah on the American models it was craptacular. On the Euro it's a disasterous cutter over Upstate and on the Canadian it's a catastrophic cutter with rain even in Ottawa. So I guess it's time to write off the rest of January.

it looks pretty craptacular to me, but i guess we'll see what happens.

airmass sucks.

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I can't takes much more of this. I'm not too optimisitic about Feb either. I'm not convinced the AO will go negative. The MJO is a disaster this year and the forecast for it look pretty dismal. The NAO looks to have a hard time staying negative. One whopper of a storm would make it a happy winter. How about 30" on March 1st? Lock it in.

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On Sunday I got in one nice snow shoe from our property here 1.5 miles over to the Christman Sanctuary in Duanesburg, knowing the end was in sight..... Now it's wrecked 3 or 4 inches yet in the woods, but useless stuff. Couple inches of slush on the lawn. But it's down to 32.

I can't takes much more of this. I'm not too optimisitic about Feb either. I'm not convinced the AO will go negative. The MJO is a disaster this year and the forecast for it look pretty dismal. The NAO looks to have a hard time staying negative. One whopper of a storm would make it a happy winter. How about 30" on March 1st? Lock it in.

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I've gotten in one ski at Thacher Park, 2 skis in the park next to my house and one snowshoe by Piseco Lake where I messed up my leg pretty good sledding down a hiking trail into a rock (that should have been covered with snow!)......duh!!!!! I'll be away a lot his spring (5 days in Feb, 5 days in March and 12 days in April. Hopefully I don't miss the rare good snowstorm this year.

On Sunday I got in one nice snow shoe from our property here 1.5 miles over to the Christman Sanctuary in Duanesburg, knowing the end was in sight..... Now it's wrecked 3 or 4 inches yet in the woods, but useless stuff. Couple inches of slush on the lawn. But it's down to 32.

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After checking the latest ensemble data, there may be a brief window of opportunity, as the PNA could be heading towards a positive phase in the first week of February. The problem that we are still facing is the NAO. Without any blocking, storms will still cut to the lakes, or escape harmlessly off to sea. Hopefully we can get enough cold air in place to cash in on an inland runner, but I am really asking a lot from this weather pattern. This winter reminds me of 1994-95. Lets hope that the following winter is like 1995-96. 34.2 inches of snow in Syracuse for November of 1995 is still the record for the month if I am not seriously mistaken?

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The first slug of moisture is coming in early enough for snow/sleet I believe... 1-3 inches generally from ALB north... Then flip to rain with minor ice around ALB, but longer duration of FZRA in elevated areas here and especially north toward GFL where it may take much of the night to get above 32.

looks like rain to me

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The first slug of moisture is coming in early enough for snow/sleet I believe... 1-3 inches generally from ALB north... Then flip to rain with minor ice around ALB, but longer duratio

n of FZRA in elevated areas here and es

pecially north toward GFL where it may take much of the night to get above 32.

Agreed. Probably more pl then I thought and less zr.
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