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Upstate NY/North Country: Heart of Winter 2012


Logan11

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Wow. I'm only about 10 miles from you and we're at 45 here! Amazing what a little difference in geography can do!

I never saw snow disappear as fast as the 3 inches of (primarily LES) that we got yesterday. About four hours of low/mid 40's and it was vaporized. The several inches of old hard snow wasn't touched in the woods etc.

High here was 45. Now 34.

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I completly agree.

Me too...I spent a couple of years in North Carolina...and when I went down there I feared I'd be in a crummy mood all winter since snow chances would be few and far between. But what I failed to realize is that it also meant you'd get days of full sun with temps around 60 even in the dead of winter. That kind of weather made it easy to forget about the lack of snow.

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Considering that we're in the heart of winter, have clear skies, and a fresh mud pack, I'm expecting temperatures to nose dive tonight into the 40's. If the winds don't pick up for a while, we might even make a run for the upper 30's.

Seriously, I would be lying if I said the 50 deg temps didn't feel nice today. Definite touch of spring in the air.

....or late fall, for those of us still wanting a winter!!! :axesmiley:

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no i didnt see that.

there is usually a difference as we know, but this year has seemed excessive.

its amazing what a snowpack can do also. ottawa managed to scrape just enough of one together in late december and its really affected ptype there since, and temps.

it is mostly grass here in northern vermont almost all the way to the champlain bridge in MTL.

You are right, and even though this winter has sucked, I have no right to complain. We got another 4 inches yesterday, followed by freezing rain all night. As you can imagine, the roads are a nightmare.

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Me too...I spent a couple of years in North Carolina...and when I went down there I feared I'd be in a crummy mood all winter since snow chances would be few and far between. But what I failed to realize is that it also meant you'd get days of full sun with temps around 60 even in the dead of winter. That kind of weather made it easy to forget about the lack of snow.

Agree as well. I would take 60 and sunny anyday over 30-40 degrees and cloudy. I am a person of extremes haha. I want 65 and sunny in winter or 30 and blizzards. Nothing in between and no cold temperatures please! :lmao:

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It sucks theres nothing in the next 16 days that would be conducive to lake effect.

Er, 12Z Euro drops the PV over the GL's next Friday...All out lake effect bonanza if that verified. Next model run will probably have a ripping southerly flow with temps in the 50's for that period, but serious eye candy nonetheless...

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Hey what's up NY state! I figure I ask these questions now since there is more traffic on these boards in the winter. I'm headed up to Cooperstown Dreams Park in mid-August for my son's week long 12U travel baseball tournament. We are staying right in the heart of the village of Cooperstown, which I figured was a good idea since we would be within walking distance to everything in town there, plus it's only like 3-4 miles away from Dreams Park. Any good suggestions on places to visit/must see other than the baseball hall of fame of course? Place to eat? Things to do? I'm pretty sure we won't have much time anyway as we'll most likely be at the fields on most days, but figured I ask just in case. Thanks in advance guys/gals!

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The 00z Euro has definitly backed of of the cold for Sunday and Monday compared to its 12z run yesterday...

Yes, which is why I think the LES potential went up....along with the GFS finally ditching it's relatively moderate outputs.

I was hoping for a comprimise to take place in the upcoming pattern, and that is what looks like will happen. Snow lovers do not want a PV sitting over them....especially with -25C h850 temps....all you get is cold, bone dry, and most likely a lot of water main breaks (with no snow cover this deep into winter).

We'll see, but this is the first time (and there have been many "false hopes" put out there by the models over this winter) I buy into what the models are pumping out, some 5-8 days out. Could be some really good times in places around here around this time next week and beyond.

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Yes, which is why I think the LES potential went up....along with the GFS finally ditching it's relatively moderate outputs.

I was hoping for a comprimise to take place in the upcoming pattern, and that is what looks like will happen. Snow lovers do not want a PV sitting over them....especially with -25C h850 temps....all you get is cold, bone dry, and most likely a lot of water main breaks (with no snow cover this deep into winter).

We'll see, but this is the first time (and there have been many "false hopes" put out there by the models over this winter) I buy into what the models are pumping out, some 5-8 days out. Could be some really good times in places around here around this time next week and beyond.

Lets hope so. But I do not see anything suggestion wind directions of W to Southwest, even meandering between NW and SW. All I see is NW, but at least the ski resorts will get hit decently. Just went there last week and conditions were absolutely horrid, even with all the snow being made. Lake Erie is at 37 degrees and has been for some days now, this is 2 degrees above the RECORD, absolutely crazy! Even ponds around my neighborhood have no ice at all in them, first time I can recall that during a winter here in Buffalo in my lifetime.

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A couple synoptic snow threats on the GFS mid/end of next week. And I hear the Euro has a low crossing Cape Cod in 10 days. LOL

I know they may evaporate on the next runs, but just to inject a smidge of life into this thread.

I have mainly been over on the NE side chasing phantom threats with them. I'll be leaving here next Tuesday (2/14) for FL and return (via car) ..arrive in DC on the 20th and back here late on the 21st. So it would be my luck to miss a snow event.

Meh...maybe some hope for you lake effect folks. I don't see much to get excited for those of us who rely on synoptic systems. At this point, if it was sunny and 60 for the next 3 months, I'd be pretty content.

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A couple synoptic snow threats on the GFS mid/end of next week. And I hear the Euro has a low crossing Cape Cod in 10 days. LOL

I know they may evaporate on the next runs, but just to inject a smidge of life into this thread.

I have mainly been over on the NE side chasing phantom threats with them. I'll be leaving here next Tuesday (2/14) for FL and return (via car) ..arrive in DC on the 20th and back here late on the 21st. So it would be my luck to miss a snow event.

Well maybe your bad luck will be our good luck :devilsmiley:

While I know there's a few outside threats there...I'm in "I'll believe it when I see it" mode. Too many threats this year have amounted to nothing...and I've pretty much lost any interest in anything portrayed by the models outside 48-72 hours.

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Well maybe your bad luck will be our good luck :devilsmiley:

While I know there's a few outside threats there...I'm in "I'll believe it when I see it" mode. Too many threats this year have amounted to nothing...and I've pretty much lost any interest in anything portrayed by the models outside 48-72 hours.

Exactly how i feel as well.
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Meh...maybe some hope for you lake effect folks. I don't see much to get excited for those of us who rely on synoptic systems. At this point, if it was sunny and 60 for the next 3 months, I'd be pretty content.

Agree, I am totally ready for tennis/golf season to start. This winter has/is a dud and hopefully spring starts soon, I would to get a jump start on all my outdoor activities. :sun:

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This winter is definitly over at this point. Whats the point in getting snow this late in the season? Like many have said here already im looking foward to warm days with afternoon thunderstorms. Bring on spring and let this winter go into the record books and hope we never get close to breaking them again in our lifetimes.

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Hey some of the best synoptic snowstorms have been from Feb. 15 to early April. :) ..never say die!

And in your area ...you torch periodically and lose it all even in the dead of winter...then you get it all back in the next LES event I know. So if you get a week of good snow sometime in late Feb. or March embrace it. LOL

This winter is definitly over at this point. Whats the point in getting snow this late in the season? Like many have said here already im looking foward to warm days with afternoon thunderstorms. Bring on spring and let this winter go into the record books and hope we never get close to breaking them again in our lifetimes.

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