phlwx Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 ...your garden and flowering trees will love that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 ^^^ ouch Some incoming storms to our sw. Gonna screw up my 1220 tee time......fack? Nothing severe, but they did form in a pocket of mucape of about 500j. Not expecting much other than nuisance showers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluehens Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I am running a half marathon tomorrow at 9:30 a.m. Any chance this all clears out by then? Its beautiful out now with clear skies but looks on radar almost like T-storms maybe 20 miles to my SW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman56 Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I am running a half marathon tomorrow at 9:30 a.m. Any chance this all clears out by then? Its beautiful out now with clear skies but looks on radar almost like T-storms maybe 20 miles to my SW. Looks to me like just some leftover showers tomorrow morning, with the bulk of the rain coming late this afternoon and then overnight. Tomorrow doesn't look as wet as it did a couple days ago. Per radar, I get wet by 11 this morning, then a few hour break this afternoon before it resumes.for the evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 ...your garden and flowering trees will love that. Lowes had vegetable plants for sale this morning and people were buying them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellice Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 People who planted peas, radishes and hardy greens in February this year will be harvesting soon. My chives are always ready by the Ides of March, earlier this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman56 Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Just finished my pea planting today. About 75' of row. On to the potates now. Amazing how manageable the soil is so early. Raining and 53.2 here in NW Chesco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Lowes had vegetable plants for sale this morning and people were buying them. I was at Lowes today as well and as someone was wheeling by with a cart full of flowers I said to my wife (half trolling)..."Honey, you know after our 80 on Friday's there's going to be a frost or freeze on Monday night?" Dude and wife that wheeled by stopped, looked at each other, then asked me what was up. Told them the scoop and said...I wouldn't plant those until after next weekend if I were you unless you have a bunch of blankets to put on top of them several times this week. I never plant flowering things this early...I did plant some shrubs the other day though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcwx Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I'm not on one side of the fence or the other in terms of impending drought or not, and I know the current rain/shower event isn't complete, but it does seem to be underperforming from projections earlier this week (at least in my area). Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I'm not on one side of the fence or the other in terms of impending drought or not, and I know the current rain/shower event isn't complete, but it does seem to be underperforming from projections earlier this week (at least in my area). Any thoughts? I agree that this current system has not produced much rain so far. I was thinking the radar would be showing much more than it currently is. The NAM had been showing less shower coverage and so far it looks to be right. We will have to see what happens through tonight. I think high pressure to the north had more of an influence of drilling down drier air farther south, and that has been eroding the bands of showers so far as they track northeastward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcwx Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I agree that this current system has not produced much rain so far. I was thinking the radar would be showing much more than it currently is. The NAM had been showing less shower coverage and so far it looks to be right. We will have to see what happens through tonight. I think high pressure to the north had more of an influence of drilling down drier air farther south, and that has been eroding the bands of showers so far as they track northeastward. Could the convection down south be limiting the moisture further north? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 i love how parts of southern va have had more hail accumulation tonight than philly has had snow this winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boch23 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 i love how parts of southern va have had more hail accumulation tonight than philly has had snow this winter Holy crap I just saw those pictures. That is incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Could the convection down south be limiting the moisture further north? That is possible, or a combination of this and the drier push of air from the north/northeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcwx Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 That is possible, or a combination of this and the drier push of air from the north/northeast. Thanks. Picked up .07 so far in Lambertville. We'll see what the rest of night brings. Looks like more to the east of here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wederwarrior Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 yes, no doubt this rain event has underperformed. 0.03 measured and the ground is still dusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluescat1 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Lowes had vegetable plants for sale this morning and people were buying them. I get mine at the Trenton Farmers Market on Spruce St., they are from locally grown crops and seem to do well in NJ. I hear what you are saying about early planting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 25f forecast low monday night qtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 monday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I was at Lowes today as well and as someone was wheeling by with a cart full of flowers I said to my wife (half trolling)..."Honey, you know after our 80 on Friday's there's going to be a frost or freeze on Monday night?" Dude and wife that wheeled by stopped, looked at each other, then asked me what was up. Told them the scoop and said...I wouldn't plant those until after next weekend if I were you unless you have a bunch of blankets to put on top of them several times this week. I never plant flowering things this early...I did plant some shrubs the other day though. I've got lazier in my old age, I order the vegetable plants from Burpees, etc. so I am hoping that they are not going to send them to me earlier this year. They normally arrive around May 1st. Regardless I'll pot them inside and wait til then to plant them anyway. Vegetable (tomato/pepper/eggplants) plants dont do much until morning mins consistently stay above 50 anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I get mine at the Trenton Farmers Market on Spruce St., they are from locally grown crops and seem to do well in NJ. I hear what you are saying about early planting. I dont remember why, I went to Lowes to buy my vegetable plants one year, that was one big mistake, they stunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 25f forecast low monday night qtown Based on what's blooming here, the peaches and pears are in trouble getting into the mid 20s, lower 20s for apples. Any non cold hardy vegetables, toast by Tuesday morning. http://www.aces.edu/dept/peaches/frzcritical.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grothar Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 monday night There will be a breeze. Hopefully to stir the air up a little bit to prevent damage. Sorry but I am getting really concerned about the extremely dry conditions. What good is planting if we are going to get scorched? The system entering CA may bring us some relief but the way the LP systems have been acting with the lows turning into closed lows over the midwest- good luck. I have never seen a closed low literally dry up over us before like this last one. wow. Time for drought watches to be issued if the west coast storm does not produce later this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 There will be a breeze. Hopefully to stir the air up a little bit to prevent damage. Sorry but I am getting really concerned about the extremely dry conditions. What good is planting if we are going to get scorched? The system entering CA may bring us some relief but the way the LP systems have been acting with the lows turning into closed lows over the midwest- good luck. I have never seen a closed low literally dry up over us before like this last one. wow. Time for drought watches to be issued if the west coast storm does not produce later this week. Drought watches do very little in reducing consumption. As for the Delaware River Valley: http://www.state.nj.us/drbc/hydrological/reservoirs/nyc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 There will be a breeze. Hopefully to stir the air up a little bit to prevent damage. Sorry but I am getting really concerned about the extremely dry conditions. What good is planting if we are going to get scorched? The system entering CA may bring us some relief but the way the LP systems have been acting with the lows turning into closed lows over the midwest- good luck. I have never seen a closed low literally dry up over us before like this last one. wow. Time for drought watches to be issued if the west coast storm does not produce later this week. You're starting early this year aren't you? Post pics of the tumbleweeds when you get a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grothar Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Drought watches do very little in reducing consumption. As for the Delaware River Valley: http://www.state.nj....reservoirs/nyc/ I agree with you on the statement that they do little to reduce consumption. In fact, I believe they increase human consumption. Humans worry about their gardens and lawns being green and waste gallons of water trying to keep them green by their mismanaged watering practices. They also have the belief that if I water now before the warnings are issued, their yards will still be green when they are restricted (use or lose it attitude) People pride themselves on the greenest lawn. A prime example of that is in our grass/ lawn thread. Take away their right to water and see how pissed off they get. My point is not how dry the surface is----- it is how the groundwater tables will rapidly fall in the upcoming months when people do have to water in order to maintain their aesthetically green yard. In other words- it is not normal to water the grass from April to June in our area. When we start sucking up the groundwater to do this and we continue to have little to no rainfall to prevent irrigation- we will be going into the summer months with one hell of groundwater deficit. Base flows are already dropping now in the limestone geology streams and will start dropping in the sandstone/shale streams real soon. The NY reservoirs and the Lehigh County wells are not showing the human consumption end of the equation just yet. Wait until we get a full of week of sunshine and in the mid to upper 80's and not with the dreary marine layer. People instinctively do not water when is cloudy and cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman56 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I've got lazier in my old age, I order the vegetable plants from Burpees, etc. so I am hoping that they are not going to send them to me earlier this year. They normally arrive around May 1st. Regardless I'll pot them inside and wait til then to plant them anyway. Vegetable (tomato/pepper/eggplants) plants dont do much until morning mins consistently stay above 50 anyway. I don't buy plants from Lowe's since 2 years ago when my tomatoes got totally wiped out from early blight. I heard the grower they use was responsible for the outbreak. I ordered plants from the midwest where hopefully that isn't a problem. They said they would arrive between April 3rd and 17th. I'd look forward to getting a few ASAP to start in the cold frame which hasn't been going below 60 at night for the last couple weeks. Sun finally out here in NW Chesco and temp has struggled up to 54.6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I agree with you on the statement that they do little to reduce consumption. In fact, I believe they increase human consumption. Humans worry about their gardens and lawns being green and waste gallons of water trying to keep them green by their mismanaged watering practices. They also have the belief that if I water now before the warnings are issued, their yards will still be green when they are restricted (use or lose it attitude) People pride themselves on the greenest lawn. A prime example of that is in our grass/ lawn thread. Take away their right to water and see how pissed off they get. My point is not how dry the surface is----- it is how the groundwater tables will rapidly fall in the upcoming months when people do have to water in order to maintain their aesthetically green yard. In other words- it is not normal to water the grass from April to June in our area. When we start sucking up the groundwater to do this and we continue to have little to no rainfall to prevent irrigation- we will be going into the summer months with one hell of groundwater deficit. Base flows are already dropping now in the limestone geology streams and will start dropping in the sandstone/shale streams real soon. The NY reservoirs and the Lehigh County wells are not showing the human consumption end of the equation just yet. Wait until we get a full of week of sunshine and in the mid to upper 80's and not with the dreary marine layer. People instinctively do not water when is cloudy and cool. Precipitation outlooks are not that skillful so its tough to make water management decisions based on them. At least in the near term (over the next two weeks or so) the position/forecast of the mjo and the teleconnection indices are leaning more toward normal temps for our area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I don't buy plants from Lowe's since 2 years ago when my tomatoes got totally wiped out from early blight. I heard the grower they use was responsible for the outbreak. I ordered plants from the midwest where hopefully that isn't a problem. They said they would arrive between April 3rd and 17th. I'd look forward to getting a few ASAP to start in the cold frame which hasn't been going below 60 at night for the last couple weeks. Sun finally out here in NW Chesco and temp has struggled up to 54.6. Everything got blighted, even the pepper plants, not going there ever again. I've done ok with the peppers/eggplants/tomatoes from Burpees and Harris. Nothing helped after the rain of last August, but I'm starting to have problems with those ugly looking leaf stink bugs. They just gravitate to my tomato plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yes_Probably_Maybe_No Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 drought watch shmought watch... 8-10 day looks back door cold front-y ahh mother nature...80s one week and then 50s the next...trolling people since trolling became the thing to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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