Ian Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/01/obama-blames-nixon-on-noaa-110745.html http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/204039-white-house-plan-would-move-noaa-to-interior- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am19psu Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 The only two things it would potentially affect are funding and senior leadership, right? No big deal then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 My biggest problem with this is it continues to confirm this guy is basically trying to get his hands on more items than Bill Clinton did, items he does not need to be touching or messing with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loafnut Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 My biggest problem with this is it continues to confirm this guy is basically trying to get his hands on more items than Bill Clinton did, items he does not need to be touching or messing with. What is this in reference to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 http://www.politico....oaa-110745.html http://thehill.com/b...oaa-to-interior- I don't think anyone knows how this would shake out. For those unfamiliar with DoI, here is their org chart: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Also, the budget for Commerce (dominated by NOAA in non-census years) http://www.osec.doc.gov/bmi/budget/FY12BIB/BA-OUTLAYS.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternsnowman Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 It's only a beginning we need to downsize and get rid of half of all departments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard1024 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 This brings up a lot of uncertainty. How will NOAA fare in DOI vs DOC? It could be totally different. You just don't know. But its not worth worrying about. After the severe weather our nation had in 2011, I believe NWS will be OK...since NWS have a lot of support on both sides of the aisle and with the President. NWS deals with protecting life and property, an essential government function that will save NWS in a dwindling budget environment. It won't be easy and the prospects for future hiring is unknown. But overall...unless fiscal disaster strikes....things should remain tight but reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 My biggest problem with this is it continues to confirm this guy is basically trying to get his hands on more items than Bill Clinton did, items he does not need to be touching or messing with. He already has his hands in it. If you work NWS you're an executive bran ch employee. So while this may or not be a reasonable move, this argument makes no sense because CEO's reorganize sometimes for bad reasons. The only thing to change the change is public pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricaneschwartz Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 As a former employee, I always wondered why the NWS and NOAA were in the Dept. of Commerce. At least this explanation makes sense. I don't know if it will change much inside NOAA, or just the bureaucracy. In the past, we've had Secretary's of Commerce who had very little understanding of what NOAA does. Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 This brings up a lot of uncertainty. How will NOAA fare in DOI vs DOC? It could be totally different. You just don't know. But its not worth worrying about. After the severe weather our nation had in 2011, I believe NWS will be OK...since NWS have a lot of support on both sides of the aisle and with the President. NWS deals with protecting life and property, an essential government function that will save NWS in a dwindling budget environment. It won't be easy and the prospects for future hiring is unknown. But overall...unless fiscal disaster strikes....things should remain tight but reasonable. I agree. No matter what Administration is in office, the importance of the 'mission' of NOAA should always be forefront, IMO. My hope is that futures Administrations not forget the importance of technology and research as to how we can prepare the population for weather events as they will surely come. The USGS and other environmental offices are in the DOI as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHurricane Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The only questions I have are, would NOAA's mission change...and would the resources dedicated to carrying out that misson change? On the surface at least, it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozart Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Commerce can't be thrilled with the prospect of losing half of its budgeted purview. Also...I wonder if moving NOAA out of Commerce might eventually change the nation's traditional public/private weather products & dissemination arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 As a former employee, I always wondered why the NWS and NOAA were in the Dept. of Commerce. At least this explanation makes sense. I don't know if it will change much inside NOAA, or just the bureaucracy. In the past, we've had Secretary's of Commerce who had very little understanding of what NOAA does. Glenn Others have wondered about this as well Glenn, so you are not alone. Interesting explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I wonder if it a protection measure being taken, since some GOP candidates have mentioned slashing the DOC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I wonder if it a protection measure being taken, since some GOP candidates have mentioned slashing the DOC? Actually that's what Obama is proposing.... killing DOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isohume Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The DOI wouldn't be a good fit for NOAA nor the National Ocean Service. These agencies perform international missions and are used to globally aligned departments like the DOC. They might have to split up NOAA, who knows. As long as the NWS doesn't go under the DHS, I'm okay with a new alignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GramaxRefugee Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Don't know who is head of Interior, but I imagine his line of thinking: 2 choices; A or B... A) "I got a new department. Now, what is the best way to change it in order to leave my mark on history?" B ) "NWS works well as it is. Don't mess it up just because I can." If you think it's B....you're living in a fantasy land. (Cynical? Why, yes I am!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Actually that's what Obama is proposing.... killing DOC. Oh I see. I was thinking back to the fall when some candidates said they wanted to eliminate the DOC, the Dept of Education, and others. I didn't realize that moving NOAA was part of that happening already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Politically, this is Obama trying to get out ahead of the Republicans in the "slashing government" realm. In reality, this is mostly reshuffling with some savings through consolidating some of the business agencies. The NWS is a favored child, and I can't imagine much would change at Interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aslkahuna Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 aybe DOI would be a better fit for NWS but I have doubts since the National Park Service is severely underfunded and the BIA is horribly corrupt. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billgwx Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 NOAA as a stand-alone agency a la NASA might make some sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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