2012 Global Temperatures

[LakeEffectKing]

May RSS:

Dropped a bit from April:

2011 5 0.125 -0.027 0.232 0.184 0.812 -0.168 -0.466 0.173 0.074

2011 6 0.297 0.166 0.468 0.264 0.893 0.433 0.524 0.373 0.218

2011 7 0.328 0.233 0.539 0.212 0.584 0.609 1.427 0.415 0.237

2011 8 0.287 0.213 0.565 0.075 0.760 0.693 1.187 0.433 0.134

2011 9 0.288 0.155 0.522 0.191 1.002 0.927 0.258 0.382 0.190

2011 10 0.089 -0.062 0.356 -0.024 0.633 0.133 -0.076 0.205 -0.032

2011 11 0.032 0.024 0.102 -0.033 0.597 -0.009 0.325 0.075 -0.013

2011 12 0.116 0.028 0.237 0.087 0.578 -0.376 0.616 0.165 0.064

2012 1 -0.058 -0.112 -0.051 -0.005 0.633 -0.550 1.594 -0.075 -0.041

2012 2 -0.121 -0.157 -0.024 -0.182 1.208 -0.188 0.633 -0.072 -0.172

2012 3 0.074 -0.121 0.324 0.030 -0.086 0.115 3.299 0.142 0.003

2012 4 0.333 -0.120 0.918 0.225 1.424 -0.044 1.752 0.534 0.122

2012 5 0.233 -0.044 0.849 -0.111 1.340 -0.238 1.385 0.553 -0.102

[bluewave]

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2012/5

• The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for May 2012 was 0.66°C (1.19°F) above the 20^th century average of 14.8°C (58.6°F). This is the second warmest May since records began in 1880, behind only 2010.
  
• The Northern Hemisphere land and ocean average surface temperature for May 2012 was the all-time warmest May on record, at 0.85°C (1.53°F) above average.
  
• The globally-averaged land surface temperature for May 2012 was the all-time warmest May on record, at 1.21°C (2.18°F) above average.
  

[Snow_Miser]

May RSS:

Dropped a bit from April:

2011 5 0.125 -0.027 0.232 0.184 0.812 -0.168 -0.466 0.173 0.074

2011 6 0.297 0.166 0.468 0.264 0.893 0.433 0.524 0.373 0.218

2011 7 0.328 0.233 0.539 0.212 0.584 0.609 1.427 0.415 0.237

2011 8 0.287 0.213 0.565 0.075 0.760 0.693 1.187 0.433 0.134

2011 9 0.288 0.155 0.522 0.191 1.002 0.927 0.258 0.382 0.190

2011 10 0.089 -0.062 0.356 -0.024 0.633 0.133 -0.076 0.205 -0.032

2011 11 0.032 0.024 0.102 -0.033 0.597 -0.009 0.325 0.075 -0.013

2011 12 0.116 0.028 0.237 0.087 0.578 -0.376 0.616 0.165 0.064

2012 1 -0.058 -0.112 -0.051 -0.005 0.633 -0.550 1.594 -0.075 -0.041

2012 2 -0.121 -0.157 -0.024 -0.182 1.208 -0.188 0.633 -0.072 -0.172

2012 3 0.074 -0.121 0.324 0.030 -0.086 0.115 3.299 0.142 0.003

2012 4 0.333 -0.120 0.918 0.225 1.424 -0.044 1.752 0.534 0.122

2012 5 0.233 -0.044 0.849 -0.111 1.340 -0.238 1.385 0.553 -0.102

Came in as the 7th warmest May if I counted correctly.

Consistent with no warming over the last decade.

The discrepency between surface temperatures and satellite measured temperatures continues to grow larger.

[Jonger]

Came in as the 7th warmest May if I counted correctly.

Consistent with no warming over the last decade.

The discrepency between surface temperatures and satellite measured temperatures continues to grow larger.

Drive to any large city at dusk and watch the temp go up by sometimes double digit readings..... How could people expect temp records to be accurate since the turn of the century when most developed cities were just fractionally built up... The earth has warmed, but the ability to hit record lows is pretty much not going to happen much anymore. Funny, I have seen more record low maximums then minimums in Detroit this past decade. Pretty much a smoking gun.

The only reason this matters at all, most early temp records are from mid latitude developed areas and those trends since then help contribute to that 0.8 degree anomaly.

Que the peer review Nazis.

Jon

[nzucker]

Drive to any large city at dusk and watch the temp go up by sometimes double digit readings..... How could people expect temp records to be accurate since the turn of the century when most developed cities were just fractionally built up... The earth has warmed, but the ability to hit record lows is pretty much not going to happen much anymore. Funny, I have seen more record low maximums then minimums in Detroit this past decade. Pretty much a smoking gun.

The only reason this matters at all, most early temp records are from mid latitude developed areas and those trends since then help contribute to that 0.8 degree anomaly.

Global temperature sources that use land measurements, such as GISS, correct for urban heat island. Studies have shown that urban and rural stations have warmed at approximately the same rate since the 1800s..

[ben4vols]

Global temperature sources that use land measurements, such as GISS, correct for urban heat island. Studies have shown that urban and rural stations have warmed at approximately the same rate since the 1800s..

They make a feeble attempt to correct, but they don't really correct anything.

[The_Global_Warmer]

They make a feeble attempt to correct, but they don't really correct anything.

Prove it. Break out some maps and data and prove it.

[The_Global_Warmer]

Came in as the 7th warmest May if I counted correctly.

Consistent with no warming over the last decade.

The discrepency between surface temperatures and satellite measured temperatures continues to grow larger.

Uah is going to.come in 2nd or 3rd Warmest for June.

RSS lacks crucial poles data.

How do uah and RSS stack up vs the same baseline instead of 1981-2010.

[Snow_Miser]

Uah is going to.come in 2nd or 3rd Warmest for June.

What is your evidence that UAH is "going to come in 2nd or 3rd warmest for June?" Don't you think that with the month not even being halfway over yet, and the data on AMSU being about a third of the month so far, that this is a bit premature?

[The_Global_Warmer]

What is your evidence that UAH is "going to come in 2nd or 3rd warmest for June?" Don't you think that with the month not even being halfway over yet, and the data on AMSU being about a third of the month so far, that this is a bit premature?

No. my evidence is common sense. every real indicator including ghg forcing has lead us right where we are.

1998 was.at .51 2010 was at .43 for June

Channel 5 temps have been above 2010 for a few days with Enso warming.

[Jonger]

They make a feeble attempt to correct, but they don't really correct anything.

I remember reading about the correction, it was FAR less then reality. They had a formula that might apply to a certain location, but it was more of a one sized fits all approach.

[The_Global_Warmer]

I remember reading about the correction, it was FAR less then reality. They had a formula that might apply to a certain location, but it was more of a one sized fits all approach.

IO

Why dont you back that up?

You think the hundreds of scientists who have poured over giss, best, and ncdc data just do not care for accuracy and do what u just claimed?

do you think you making things up is very respectful to those scientists?

[The_Global_Warmer]

No. my evidence is common sense. every real indicator including ghg forcing has lead us right where we are.

1998 was.at .51 2010 was at .43 for June

Channel 5 temps have been above 2010 for a few days with Enso warming.

Oh and the AMO index was at 0.200 for May up from -0.032 in January.

[Snow_Miser]

No. my evidence is common sense. every real indicator including ghg forcing has lead us right where we are.

1998 was.at .51 2010 was at .43 for June

Channel 5 temps have been above 2010 for a few days with Enso warming.

So in other words you have no evidence to back up your statements, but simply assumptions and speculations?

Good to know.

Are you going to reply to my post in "All Things Solar" or not?

[The_Global_Warmer]

So in other words you have no evidence to back up your statements, but simply assumptions and speculations?

Good to know.

Are you going to reply to my post in "All Things Solar" or not?

How about this.the 3rd warmest June on UAH is 2002 & 2011 at .32

If 2012 is below .32 I will stop posting here for 3 months.

If its .33 or above you stop posting here for 3 months.

You call me out saying I dont have evidence then take the bet. Barring a huge volcano I am 100% certain its going to be above .33

you felt the need to pretend like its not gonna happen.

You think its cooling take the bet

[ben4vols]

Prove it. Break out some maps and data and prove it.

It's already been done. Roy Spencer had an interesting study with his ISH PDAT data. Others have looked into this as well.

[ben4vols]

IO

Why dont you back that up?

You think the hundreds of scientists who have poured over giss, best, and ncdc data just do not care for accuracy and do what u just claimed?

do you think you making things up is very respectful to those scientists?

Do you know that hundreds have poured over this data or are you just guessing?

[TerryM]

Of the hottest 14 months of May, 13 were this century. What happened to "no warming since 1998"?

Terry

[The_Global_Warmer]

It's already been done. Roy Spencer had an interesting study with his ISH PDAT data. Others have looked into this as well.

Prove it.

[The_Global_Warmer]

Do you know that hundreds have poured over this data or are you just guessing?

Google scholar is a friend

[Snow_Miser]

Friv,

I am not going to "bet" on something that variates from day to day so wildly because of the complicated convective overturning process.

You are out of line by suggesting something that might not even happen, when not even half of the data is into the AMSU-A Temps website yet.

[The_Global_Warmer]

Friv,

I am not going to "bet" on something that variates from day to day so wildly because of the complicated convective overturning process.

You are out of line by suggesting something that might not even happen, when not even half of the data is into the AMSU-A Temps website yet.

The what? You Mean that disclaimer on Roys Data set?

Through 13 days 2012 is running ahead of 2011 on channel 5 by a decently large amount.

In real life we know the surface is running warm this is also shown in the UAH data but can be cross checked with giss,ncdc, and rss.

We know sea ice and snow cover are at contemporary record lows by a lot.

So we know how large of an albedo shift we are dealing with.

we also have computer models that show an increase in warmth over both Eurasia and North America.

Just from 3-4 of these land warming patterns I have seen the jump on the global temps.

plus the forecasted .45 to .50C surface temp anomaly helps.

But back to the base of my practicality. The excuse that whatever you said in the first paragraph will happen and flatline 2012 so much that it falls below 2011 for the month of June is absurd.

Expecially when the driver of warmth is the NH positive feedback:

Ghg forcing

Snow albedo

Ice albedo

I am not out of line. I am right.

I will give you a handicap.

I will concede .04c and make the offer .35c if you wont take that I will settle for being right in early July when 2012 is neck and neck with 2010 for June

[The_Global_Warmer]

Through June 13th 2012 is running .186c above 2011.

2010 is running 0.050c above 2012.

[Snow_Miser]

Through June 13th 2012 is running .186c above 2011.

2010 is running 0.050c above 2012.

Which can easily change over the next 15 days.

[GaWx]

"The godfather of global warming says he, and Al Gore, have been ‘alarmist’ about its effects"

"James Lovelock now says his books on global warming were unduly alarmist."

“The world has not warmed up very much since the millennium. Twelve years is a reasonable time … it (the temperature) has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising — carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that.”

http://www.torontosu...lypse-postponed

Any comments?

[GaWx]

I don't know if it was posted. Per NOAA, 5/12 was at +0.6639 C, which actually pulls 2012 about 0.1C warmer than 2011 through May. Also, is is the 2nd warmest May on record (to 2010).

Although I am definitely still wondering what % of the late 20th century global warming has been actually caused by the overall active sun of 1950-2000 (intense discussions in the "Sun" thread right now), I also do realize that 1998 was a big spike due to the very strong El Nino and that it probably got things a bit out of kilter when trying to look at trends since 1998. In other words, maybe things sort of got ahead of themselves and then dialed back during the years immediately afterward because of that. It is tricky. OTOH, I also feel we really may have leveled off and may be about to drop trendwise regardless of what is happenning in 2012, especially if the sun continues quiet. We'll see.

[The_Global_Warmer]

Which can easily change over the next 15 days.

Change? Yeah, not to what you were so upset about. I feel like I just got duped like this is some big joke. That Green line is roughly what the channel 5 temps would have to do for June to be lower than 3rd warmest on the UAH data set.

Do you even keep track of reality? I am sorry for being so rude, but it's infuriating to see the kind of stuff that just happened between us. I wasted to much time trying to represent logic, fact, and reason here. While you sprouted off whatever. You are not going to tell me with no mechanism of action and increasing GHGS that this is as warm as we will get this summer globally.

You know for a fact 2012 is running very warm now and is going to stay near record highs or above them as long as ENSO is neutral or NINO.

[The_Global_Warmer]

I don't know if it was posted. Per NOAA, 5/12 was at +0.6639 C, which actually pulls 2012 about 0.1C warmer than 2011 through May. Also, is is the 2nd warmest May on record (to 2010).

Although I am definitely still wondering what % of the late 20th century global warming has been actually caused by the overall active sun of 1950-2000 (intense discussions in the "Sun" thread right now), I also do realize that 1998 was a big spike due to the very strong El Nino and that it probably got things a bit out of kilter when trying to look at trends since 1998. In other words, maybe things sort of got ahead of themselves and then dialed back during the years immediately afterward because of that. It is tricky. OTOH, I also feel we really may have leveled off and may be about to drop trendwise regardless of what is happenning in 2012, especially if the sun continues quiet. We'll see.

Yeah, except nothing, absolutely nothing backs this. You are going on a wing and a prayer I suppose.

[Snow_Miser]

I feel like I just got duped like this is some big joke. That Green line is roughly what the channel 5 temps would have to do for June to be lower than 3rd warmest on the UAH data set.

Do you even keep track of reality? I am sorry for being so rude, but it's infuriating to see the kind of stuff that just happened between us. I wasted to much time trying to represent logic, fact, and reason here. While you sprouted off whatever. You are not going to tell me with no mechanism of action and increasing GHGS that this is as warm as we will get this summer globally.

You know for a fact 2012 is running very warm now and is going to stay near record highs or above them as long as ENSO is neutral or NINO.

I can see who is spouting off whatever...

What was your statistical calculation and analysis to get you that green line? Can you post this analysis so that we can see your thought process and caluclations to get this line?

[The_Global_Warmer]

I can see who is spouting off whatever...

What was your statistical calculation and analysis to get you that green line? Can you post this analysis so that we can see your thought process and calculations to get this line?

Here is my calculations. Another large rise today. So 14 days down and 2012 is far ahead of 2011 and 2002 and running near tied with 2010 now.