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Jan 2012 Banter Thread


LongBeachSurfFreak

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Yeah these brief cold shots with warmups in between really kill our averages. Yesterday wasn't a 50 degree day/nor is today but both days registered brief high temps in the 50s since our warmup came late at night. Even if we're down into the 20s by midnight tonight we still will be at least +7 for the day after a +13 yesterday. I never thought Dec would end up at +6 either but it did.

Yea that's nonsense I really hate that too. Frustrating to see a very cold day show up near neutral in the record because of a midnight high.

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Yea that's nonsense I really hate that too. Frustrating to see a very cold day show up near neutral in the record because of a midnight high.

How is it nonsense? Those are the highs; furthermore, neither today nor yesterday have been "very cold days". We've had like 3 very cold days the entire "winter".

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what he's saying is that today's high was 50, but it was for one hour just after midnight...this is not representative of a day that will be mostly 35-40 and nor was it yesterday when most of the day was in the upper 30's except for the spike to 50 on the other side of midnight

So in order for a high to be valid it has to be the temp for the majority of the day? And yesterday we were in the 40s most of the day, so a high of 53 isn't that outlandish regardless of when it occurred.

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Many COOP stations measure 12Z to 12Z, so in a case where the high occurs at midnight you're actually getting it registered as today's high, whereas in most circumstances, COOP stations are a day "behind" (ie: "today's" high usually occurs on yesterday's date). But in either case it is being counted towards one day or the other so it isn't too big of a deal. Whether the high occurs at midnight or in the afternoon, the mean temp is still calculated by averaging the high and the low so it doesn't affect anything climatologically.

If you want frustrating, consider that COOP stations report once a day at 12Z so if your snow falls between 12Z and 00Z, heavily, it may only be measured 12 hours later when it is compacted. And that goes into the history books as the "snowfall total". <_<

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The GFS looks to keep NNJ and SNY as all snow. Even NYC does not warm significantly till most of the precip has ended. The city taking this run verbatim might be able to manage 1-3 which would be epic this winter.

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He is not one to hype an event. Not normal of him.

I brought this up a week or two ago. I wonder if some news directors are going to their weatherpeople and saying '...are there any events we can play up?', because, especially in the northeast, winter weather is the primary weather driver for ratings.

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I brought this up a week or two ago. I wonder if some news directors are going to their weatherpeople and saying '...are there any events we can play up?', because, especially in the northeast, winter weather is the primary weather driver for ratings.

They must be bored since this winter has sucked. Lee Goldberg, Bill Evens and Nick Gregory are really good. They don't usually hype up an event.

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