jiksports Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 00Z GFS is a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSuburbs Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 00Z GFS is a disaster. What is this, October? All that's missing is that fantasy tropical cyclone it had a while ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstorm Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 My understanding is one snowflake counts as a trace. I could be wrong, but that is what I think it is. Were they they only place that didn't see a snowflake today. Even I saw five. Requirements for a trace:1) Snow has to come down in an intensity of at least "Light Snow" instead of just "Flurries."2) Snow can't be accompanied with sleet, rain or freezing rain when falling.It's viable to think that CPK did not receive any snowflakes during any wintry mix just off the fact that Teterboro and LGA did not record a trace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The Euro monthlies are cold and really stormy for the area for February. Hopefully it is correct . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFox Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Requirements for a trace:1) Snow has to come down in an intensity of at least "Light Snow" instead of just "Flurries."2) Snow can't be accompanied with sleet, rain or freezing rain when falling.It's viable to think that CPK did not receive any snowflakes during any wintry mix just off the fact that Teterboro and LGA did not record a trace. Here is one NWS Office definition of a trace of precipitation: http://www.srh.noaa....d/?n=filloutb92 ...Record a Trace of precipitation with a "T". A trace is defined as a measurement less than 1/100 of an inch. You may also record a trace of precipitation when it briefly rains at your location but doesn't hit the rain gauge, or if it sprinkles for a short time, but not enough to measure 0.01". and another NWS reference: http://www.nws.noaa....op/snowguid.htm ...Snow often melts as it lands. If snow continually melts as it lands, and the accumulation never reaches 0.1 inches on your measuring surface, snowfall should be recorded as a trace (T) and record in your remarks that the "snow melted as it landed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Here is one NWS Office definition of a trace of precipitation: http://www.srh.noaa....d/?n=filloutb92 ...Record a Trace of precipitation with a "T". A trace is defined as a measurement less than 1/100 of an inch. You may also record a trace of precipitation when it briefly rains at your location but doesn't hit the rain gauge, or if it sprinkles for a short time, but not enough to measure 0.01". and another NWS reference: http://www.nws.noaa....op/snowguid.htm ...Snow often melts as it lands. If snow continually melts as it lands, and the accumulation never reaches 0.1 inches on your measuring surface, snowfall should be recorded as a trace (T) and record in your remarks that the "snow melted as it landed". I read the second one earlier in the evening. Sounds more like a judgement call. Another climate report should be out within the hour. Some winter, we are on pins and needles wondering about 'a trace of snow'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace0927 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Agree with all points. Someone else I read raised this point: In the past, Cashman could have traded Montero for Halladay, Cliff Lee, or King Felix (each opportunity arose at different times obviously). If Pineda does not pan out, how does it make Cashman look when he could have received one of three proven Aces? all the guys you mentioned would cost an arm and a leg (real money)...Pineda is 22, no where near free agency, isnt arbitration eligible, and a far better risk than Montero who will be a DH....in his rookie year he k'ed 9.1/9 and walked under 3 per 9...Over the course of a 15 year career those numbers translate to one place- the HOF. GREAT TRADE...add in the signing of Kuroda and the Yankees have the best rotation in the AL.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The Euro monthlies are cold and really stormy for the area for February. Hopefully it is correct . I'm sorry, what the hell are the Euro monthlies? They sound like a much worse version of the Euro weeklies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFox Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I read the second one earlier in the evening. Sounds more like a judgement call. Another climate report should be out within the hour. Some winter, we are on pins and needles wondering about 'a trace of snow'. Yep, I agree..but it is all we got at this time. Rome wasn't built in a day.. A journey begins with a step..maybe today's flurries will bring us some good luck in the significant snow department before Spring. We can hope.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Monthly, Euro Monthly Really because this is what I have gotten when the monthlies came out posted from the SNE thread... ."A little information on the ECM monthlies from a Pro Met (CTRAIN) in the SNE area ..first he mentions the ECM weeklies...."Weeklies look ok week 4 after a hideous week 3 but the monthlies are ugly for feb and horrific for march. Daffodils by the ides of march!" Now I think what people are talking about is the ECM Monthly Control Run that is on accuweather. ECM monthlies are not available to my knowledge to the general public...only to the pro mets..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Well, its official, a trace at Central Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strongbad Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Well, its official, a trace at Central Park. Open up some bubbly! This calls for an official celebration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 No one hates Groundhog Day more than me, but this year is it even worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELCwx Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 No one hates Groundhog Day more than me, but this year is it even worth it? Embrace the futility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiksports Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 00Z Euro is scary at 192-216. Practically the whole US is under the torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 GGEM, GFS, and Euro long range forecasts don't even look like winter. What is that, 60-70 degrees? Very disappointing after we thought a pattern change was coming. Now we hope the torch is short-lived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The Euro is terrible. It re establishes the PV over Greenland along with a large negative height anomaly over Alaska and Western Canada. Probably one of the worst runs in the long range that I have seen so far this winter. No doubt about it, a terrible pattern for snow for almost everybody on the East Coast. http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ECMWF0.5_0z/f216.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 00Z Euro is scary at 192-216. Practically the whole US is under the torch. I actually feel sorry for the Weather Channel. This and hurricane season are their 'prime times' in terms of viewership and they get this. You can tell, because on Thursday, they were treating the Chicago storm as a virtual blizzard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The GEFS are pegging next Friday as the warmest day so far -- with +15 to +18 degree temperature departures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 the euro is a downright kick in the balls, there is absolutely nothing going in our favor for snow or cold With that said, i already gave up, and it can torch all it wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Energy Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Im all in favor of snow, but uh, last 2 winters i had big heating bills. I'll take the lower cost this go round. Just give me one snowfall after the Oct storm and that will do. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green tube Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 we got a freak inside-the-park-home-run on the first batter of the game... followed possibly by 27 up, 27 down. ooofah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 we got a freak inside-the-park-home-run on the first batter of the game... followed possibly by 27 up, 27 down. ooofah. Yeah. It's only the 4th inning though, bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 we got a freak inside-the-park-home-run on the first batter of the game... followed possibly by 27 up, 27 down. ooofah. The meteorological version of Ernie Shore -- Babe Ruth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green tube Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Yeah. It's only the 4th inning though, bud. true. but it looks it looks like the pitcher is going to be the only hitter for the next couple of innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 00Z Euro is scary at 192-216. Practically the whole US is under the torch. Not right at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bates Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The Euro is terrible. It re establishes the PV over Greenland along with a large negative height anomaly over Alaska and Western Canada. Probably one of the worst runs in the long range that I have seen so far this winter. No doubt about it, a terrible pattern for snow for almost everybody on the East Coast. http://www.meteo.psu...0.5_0z/f216.gif Still think there was a pattern change? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherX Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Really because this is what I have gotten when the monthlies came out posted from the SNE thread... ."A little information on the ECM monthlies from a Pro Met (CTRAIN) in the SNE area ..first he mentions the ECM weeklies...."Weeklies look ok week 4 after a hideous week 3 but the monthlies are ugly for feb and horrific for march. Daffodils by the ides of march!" Now I think what people are talking about is the ECM Monthly Control Run that is on accuweather. ECM monthlies are not available to my knowledge to the general public...only to the pro mets..... I was teasing Anthony lol. I have the Euro monthly run and it does in fact look quite stormy for February, FWIW... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrick Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I was teasing Anthony lol. I have the Euro monthly run and it does in fact look quite stormy for February, FWIW... Oh man...I was just about ready to plant tomatoes. Interesting fact about the recent intensity of storms over the past 18 months or so... NJM, our homeowners & auto insurance company, is raising rates mostly due to the extraordinary increase in wind-related claims they have experienced. Anyone else get any weather-related notices from their insurance companies lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 If next week is really warm, I might go skinny dipping . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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