Isotherm Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 This map kind of says it all. CPC Day 8-14 temperature outlook. Not to attack them, but this is the truth - the cold needs to be pretty blatantly obvious for them to forecast it. Just look through their probabilistic outlooks going through 12 months. Beyond month 2.5, there are only red shadings on the US temp map. Even in the 2 week to 2 month period, the cold zones are quite small, and in areas where they're very confident it will occur due to the -PDO cold waters (Southern AK and NW US). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Lets all pray at night so February and March can be cold and snowy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Who cares. It's fantasy range. Interest should be on the clipper in mid-range, day 5-6. keep hanging your hat on a clipper that will either under perform or dissapear. We almost never do well in these setups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Lets all pray at night so February and March can be cold and snowy. :weenie: Let's all pray that the Mets have a winning season, oh wait all the prayer in the world couldn't make that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Looking at the ECMWF day 10 prompted me to look up the January records for KDCA. The record maximums for each day but three are in the 70s which surprised me. At this rate, you can probably hold the cherry blossom festival the last week of January. Should look like May around there with all the trees blooming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 keep hanging your hat on a clipper that will either under perform or dissapear. We almost never do well in these setups. That storm looks more like an overrunning event than a clipper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Anxiously awaiting the 18z goofus. Shall we take bets on whether or not the system will be there at 192? I ran my scan of the world models, including KMA/JMA/Australia/some of the Europe ones that show the whole world and most show some sort of storm over the US during that 180-200 hour but virtually none are as cold as the GFS is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Let's all pray that the Mets have a winning season, oh wait all the prayer in the world couldn't make that happen. Agree. It will take a couple of years . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Agree. It will take a couple of years . The Nats will have a winning season before the Mets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 That storm looks more like an overrunning event than a clipper. I truthfully hope that I am wrong, but I just don't see it happening. I think the best we can hope for is that system around 192 hours in between torches and until we get some agreement between the Euro and GFS on a whole scale pattern change that shows no signs of every coming. Seriously, if we get a few days in the 70's people are going to be hard pressed to complain. Nobody likes 50's and rain but warm weather is intoxicating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Think of it this way, if its snowing on Long Island its most definitly snowing in the NW burbs or at least cold enough to snow. There are a few rare occasions where a storm is supressed far enough south that the Island gets into the snow and mostly everyone else misses out, but I don't recall any recent scenarios where the Island had a big event and NJ did very poor. 100 years or so a good sample size. I personally like to look at 1970 to present. Technology has come a long way since then and we are more accurate at measuring snow now. Oh and love the flood comment, Its nice to see I hit a nerve. December 2009? We just had a debate about this actually. IMBY in western suffolk we got 16-18, Trials got 9...Upton got 26... There were several events i remember, but im writing a letter to a judge now and dont have time to list em all...any helpers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 December 2009? We just had a debate about this actually. IMBY in western suffolk we got 16-18, Trials got 9...Upton got 26... There were several events i remember, but im writing a letter to a judge now and dont have time to list em all...any helpers? worst storm ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 The Nats will have a winning season before the Mets. Off topic but the Nats are going to become the Blue Jays of the NL East, they will be good but with ATL and Philly THAT MUCH better they won't be able to go anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 worst storm ever. Yes...because you live north and west...and long island did well. Yankeefan loses. Damn, this is why i became a lawyer. Debunking BS and the like... (insert lawyer joke here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 December 2009? We just had a debate about this actually. IMBY in western suffolk we got 16-18, Trials got 9...Upton got 26... There were several events i remember, but im writing a letter to a judge now and dont have time to list em all...any helpers? Add February 1978 also.... LI 24-30+' NJ did not get that much.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Off topic but the Nats are going to become the Blue Jays of the NL East, they will be good but with ATL and Philly THAT MUCH better they won't be able to go anywhere. I just want to see them be decent, which is a good bet with Strasbug playing the entire season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Off topic but the Nats are going to become the Blue Jays of the NL East, they will be good but with ATL and Philly THAT MUCH better they won't be able to go anywhere. The NL East is stacked. The Mets are ****ed for a long long time...Jose was a big blow and i think Wright should have been off loaded. I think 10 games back by May 15... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Having Mike Francesa do the football weather is comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFox Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 A few flurries observed in Bayside, NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I did say on a few rare occasions LI gets big snow and NJ does poorly. It depends on what you define as poor as well. If I get 6" and Upton gets 20" I don't consider that doing poorly. I take my 6" to the bank and I'm happy because six inches is better than 0 inches. How about this winter? I bet 99% of the people on here would take any snow they can get right now, hence the excitement earlier for flurries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 The Nats will have a winning season before the Mets. I think the Nats will finish in front of the Mets this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 The NL East is stacked. The Mets are ****ed for a long long time...Jose was a big blow and i think Wright should have been off loaded. I think 10 games back by May 15... MMy guess is the Jose non-deal will look good 10 years from now, the team will never have been good enough to compete from 2012-2017 and they will have saved alot of money on a guy who in my opinion will spend heaps of time on the DL and retire at age 34 or 35 anyway, not because of injuries but because Jose is the type of guy who will want to spend time with his family and do other things as opposed to drawing out his career when he no longer can put up solid #s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Yes...because you live north and west...and long island did well. Yankeefan loses. Damn, this is why i became a lawyer. Debunking BS and the like... (insert lawyer joke here) worst storm ever for me, obviously the island boys cleaned up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I think the Nats will finish in front of the Mets this season. Gonna be an exciting year for the NL East either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 The NL East is stacked. The Mets are ****ed for a long long time...Jose was a big blow and i think Wright should have been off loaded. I think 10 games back by May 15... Have a feeling Wright is going to be traded. Anyway back to the weather . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I think the Nats will finish in front of the Mets this season. enough talk about the dam Mets, Lets go GIANTS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 M My guess is the Jose non-deal will look good 10 years from now, the team will never have been good enough to compete from 2012-2017 and they will have saved alot of money on a guy who in my opinion will spend heaps of time on the DL and retire at age 34 or 35 anyway, not because of injuries but because Jose is the type of guy who will want to spend time with his family and do other things as opposed to drawing out his career when he no longer can put up solid #s. Not a bad point at all. It was a ton of money so i cannot say i blame the mets. i just dont see what the game plan is. the farm system sucks. there are no solid players on the team anymore. Pitching? Weve been waiting for Pelfrey to be consistent for 4+ years now. I think this team is done until new ownership comes in, cleans house and drops 150 mill + Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I received 13 inches from the Dec 2009 storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 enough talk about the dam Mets, Lets go GIANTS! Worried and pumped!!! Let's go GMEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Worried and pumped!!! Let's go GMEN Why worry, the pressure is all on the Packers, nobody expects the Giants to win...nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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