H2O Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 nice air mass...IAD hit 16 this morning and I think we get a reinforcing shot tomorrow..... Keep northerly winds right up to the onset of precip and it will be tough to scour out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 12z GFS through 27 a smidge colder at the 850 level Yoda, only post if it's good news. Otherwise, you will just infuriate me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Yoda, only post if it's good news. Otherwise, you will just infuriate me. Understood Ms. Roker 12z GFS at 33 has 850 0c line nearby RIC... 06z was by EZF (hr 39 to compare) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 If it's going to ice storm, I want power outages, footage of cars sliding down hills and sideswiping guard rails, flight cancellations and disruptions to plans all around. cool maybe there will be some footage from remote areas of NW VA..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Understood Ms. Roker 12z GFS at 33 has 850 0c line nearby RIC... 06z was by EZF (hr 39 to compare) Already above freezing by 03z at 800mb (DCA/IAD south). Precip not even here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Already above freezing by 03z at 800mb (DCA/IAD south). Precip not even here. Ice ice baby? CAD more pronounced on the 12z GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ice ice baby? Interestingly, a little subzero spot shows back up at 06z. Column cooling with precip even at the GFS scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Northern Maryland looks good through 9z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 12Z GFS with slightly more snow than the NAM at the onset for here. Measurable QPF sneaking in before 03Z too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillzPirate Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Wouldn't take much.... Hate the snow is so close but I'll take whatever at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 N VA still below freezing (barely -- prob 30-32) at 12z... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Northern Maryland looks good through 9z. Talk dirty to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BethesdaWX Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 12z GFS screams ZR down this way, less in the way of snow than NAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 DCA prob flirting with freezing or just above at 12z... Just N and W still below... def colder than 06z N and C MD still below freezing at 15z.. all of VA at or above 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Looks better, but I'm going to use the "CAD is underforecast" method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 wow..GFS colder than the NAM..serious wedge....and precip gets in here early.....pretty good model agreement between NAM/GFS....Dr. No in 2 hrs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Borderline WSW event for me and Wxtrix on the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 12z NAM BUFKIT for BWI 120121/0700Z 43 12007KT 30.2F SNPL 120121/0800Z 44 11007KT 30.0F SNPL 120121/0900Z 45 11007KT 30.9F FZRA 120121/1000Z 46 10007KT 31.5F FZRA 120121/1100Z 47 09006KT 32.2F RAIN 20121/1200Z 48 08004KT 32.5F RAIN 120121/1300Z 49 05003KT 32.9F 120121/1400Z 50 01003KT 33.4F 120121/1500Z 51 01004KT 34.0F 120121/1600Z 52 01003KT 33.6F RAIN 120121/1700Z 53 36003KT 33.3F RAIN 120121/1800Z 54 35004KT 33.6F RAIN 120121/1900Z 55 35004KT 34.5F RAIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 DCA prob flirting with freezing or just above at 12z... Just N and W still below... def colder than 06z N and C MD still below freezing at 15z.. all of VA at or above 32 it's gonna be close but, yes, NW burbs look best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scuddz Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 1000-850 sub-132 for DC-north the whole event this run. Ends as FZRA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob Chill Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Looks better, but I'm going to use the "CAD is underforecast" method. Even though we tag it as a weenie phrase most of the time it's true more often than not. Especially when we are right in the transition fringe on the models. IIRC we almost always end up colder at the surface by a degree or 2. 850's on up though don't vary as much. Still, we're on the fringe of the type of event that almost always gives us more wintry precip than modeled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Looking better and better for more snow around these parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 1000-850 sub-132 for DC-north the whole event this run. Ends as FZRA? How do you use that map correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Thanks. Flow seems to have more of a SE component though? I thought the SE flow was what allowed damming against the mtns? http://raleighwx.ame...mpsNAMLoop.html Correct me if I'm wrong. I didn't see SW winds, but my eyes suck pretty bad. You're right... I had switched over to the 06z GFS sounding and forgot that I was looking at that and not the 12z NAM when writing the post. The decoupling thing still stands, but obviously it would be less dramatic with an easterly component at the surface versus a westerly component. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Even though we tag it as a weenie phrase most of the time it's true more often than not. Especially when we are right in the transition fringe on the models. IIRC we almost always end up colder at the surface by a degree or 2. 850's on up though don't vary as much. Still, we're on the fringe of the type of event that almost always gives us more wintry precip than modeled. plus the low is uber weak at this pt.. not even closing isobars on the ncep maps except briefly on nam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I've always liked this look @ 2m (hr 42gfs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillzPirate Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I think DC proper is gonna be the battle zone.... Could be a stark contrast between what say, the mall receives and what houses in 16th st heights see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 GFS has a 3-5 hr burst, then DS after 08z or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Snapple falling from the sky sounds pretty cool. I hope its the Lemon Tea flavor, that's my favorite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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