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January storm threat discussion #2


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  On 1/19/2012 at 3:31 PM, zwyts said:

I recorded only 0.25" but it was a "high" impact event given that number..it was pretty nasty..That was a nice event

I liked it too, the roads were horrible though. McArthur Blvd had a mini pile-up on the decline where everyone who tried it ended up spinning out.

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  On 1/19/2012 at 3:37 PM, zwyts said:

sometimes these events can be fun even if they don't snarl traffic or cause massive power outages.....1/17/11 was ideal since it started early PM, but even a midnight start would give us some time to check sh-it out....me and you probably wake up to 34 and drizzle but there could be surprises out west.....CAD is the only winter thing we do well...we suck at everything else winter related

If it's going to ice storm, I want power outages, footage of cars sliding down hills and sideswiping guard rails, flight cancellations and disruptions to plans all around.

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12z NAM BUFKIT for BWI

120121/0700Z 43 12007KT 30.2F SNPL

120121/0800Z 44 11007KT 30.0F SNPL

120121/0900Z 45 11007KT 30.9F FZRA

120121/1000Z 46 10007KT 31.5F FZRA

120121/1100Z 47 09006KT 32.2F RAIN

20121/1200Z 48 08004KT 32.5F RAIN

120121/1300Z 49 05003KT 32.9F

120121/1400Z 50 01003KT 33.4F

120121/1500Z 51 01004KT 34.0F

120121/1600Z 52 01003KT 33.6F RAIN

120121/1700Z 53 36003KT 33.3F RAIN

120121/1800Z 54 35004KT 33.6F RAIN

120121/1900Z 55 35004KT 34.5F RAIN

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  On 1/19/2012 at 3:58 PM, stormtracker said:

Looks better, but I'm going to use the "CAD is underforecast" method.

Even though we tag it as a weenie phrase most of the time it's true more often than not. Especially when we are right in the transition fringe on the models. IIRC we almost always end up colder at the surface by a degree or 2. 850's on up though don't vary as much. Still, we're on the fringe of the type of event that almost always gives us more wintry precip than modeled.

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  On 1/19/2012 at 2:57 PM, BethesdaWX said:

Thanks. Flow seems to have more of a SE component though? I thought the SE flow was what allowed damming against the mtns?

http://raleighwx.ame...mpsNAMLoop.html

Correct me if I'm wrong. I didn't see SW winds, but my eyes suck pretty bad.

You're right... I had switched over to the 06z GFS sounding and forgot that I was looking at that and not the 12z NAM when writing the post.

The decoupling thing still stands, but obviously it would be less dramatic with an easterly component at the surface versus a westerly component.

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  On 1/19/2012 at 4:03 PM, Bob Chill said:

Even though we tag it as a weenie phrase most of the time it's true more often than not. Especially when we are right in the transition fringe on the models. IIRC we almost always end up colder at the surface by a degree or 2. 850's on up though don't vary as much. Still, we're on the fringe of the type of event that almost always gives us more wintry precip than modeled.

plus the low is uber weak at this pt.. not even closing isobars on the ncep maps except briefly on nam

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