Tropopause_Fold Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Some people failed to get put into the donating group automatically. You should be all set now. Fixed CapeCodWeather too. If anyone else who donated is seeing ads, PM me and I'll fix. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I've decided to ignore this response. this is like a 25 degree difference from the same period in GFS land as a couple of days ago, abject failure, after the next 7-10 days, the year of nonwinter cancel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 NAM keeps the best lift closer to the actual front to the sw. Looks like it would be lighter and more disorganized precip as it comes through in the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 this is like a 25 degree difference from the same period in GFS land as a couple of days ago, abject failure, after the next 7-10 days, the year of nonwinter cancel? Man oh man... laughable Steve... really is - from the icebox to the wood shed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 which would do 2 things, even with an alaska vortex and -epo: 1. push the gradient further south, at least potentially.... 2. increase the chances of popping a -NAO yes? yes in both regards.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 At least the 15z SREF looks a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 NAM keeps the best lift closer to the actual front to the sw. Looks like it would be lighter and more disorganized precip as it comes through in the beginning. We'll find out which camp ends up being more correct in about 12 hours. The NAM's lessening of the CAD at the sfc the last few runs is concerning as well for trying to forecast the icing situation. Usually its one of the more bullish models to show ice, but I have seen it fail once or twice before. Euro was showing a pretty big ice signal and the NAM is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 We'll find out which camp ends up being more correct in about 12 hours. The NAM's lessening of the CAD at the sfc the last few runs is concerning as well for trying to forecast the icing situation. Usually its one of the more bullish models to show ice, but I have seen it fail once or twice before. Euro was showing a pretty big ice signal and the NAM is not. even the GFS has a decent signal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 WV continues to look siiiick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericnh Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 have a feeling that the WSW is Hillsborough countu in NH will be dropped and a wwa added. for evening update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 have a feeling that the WSW is Hillsborough countu in NH will be dropped and a wwa added. for evening update It'll be close, but there could be sharp gradient within these counties. NE Cheshire and northern Hillsborough could easily be in for 6+" plus some light icing, while southern portions are looking at 3-5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericnh Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 It'll be close, but there could be sharp gradient within these counties. NE Cheshire and northern Hillsborough could easily be in for 6+" plus some light icing, while southern portions are looking at 3-5" then again they may keep the watch up due to iceing and time of day it occurs with schools and such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 WV continues to look siiiick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJBASHB Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 We'll find out which camp ends up being more correct in about 12 hours. The NAM's lessening of the CAD at the sfc the last few runs is concerning as well for trying to forecast the icing situation. Usually its one of the more bullish models to show ice, but I have seen it fail once or twice before. Euro was showing a pretty big ice signal and the NAM is not. Didn't the nam lead the way in 2008? I'm just glad we arn't waiting for a well timed cold push to save the day like in December; the (somewhat cold) airmass is in place. More often than not the first scenario ends up favoring the mundane. Should be a fun night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Didn't the nam lead the way in 2008? I'm just glad we arn't waiting for a well timed cold push to save the day like in December; the (somewhat cold) airmass is in place. More often than not the first scenario ends up favoring the mundane. Should be a fun night. Yeah the NAM was the first to see the big '08 ice storm...the funny part was that the Euro didn't want to believe it until it was inside 24 hours out and the GFS was horrible in that event. It showed almost all rain. This time its the NAM that is the least bullish...which is little bothersome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Yeah the NAM was the first to see the big '08 ice storm...the funny part was that the Euro didn't want to believe it until it was inside 24 hours out and the GFS was horrible in that event. It showed almost all rain. This time its the NAM that is the least bullish...which is little bothersome. Haha, ... i can remember me and this Met bud of mine looking at a NAM product 2 days before hand that said 3.5" ice and were going ...nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 this is like a 25 degree difference from the same period in GFS land as a couple of days ago, abject failure, after the next 7-10 days, the year of nonwinter cancel? Jan 24 H8 temps for C.Maine changed from -20C to +10C! 40s and flooding rains? Guess I'll wait for it to change again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Yeah the NAM was the first to see the big '08 ice storm...the funny part was that the Euro didn't want to believe it until it was inside 24 hours out and the GFS was horrible in that event. It showed almost all rain. This time its the NAM that is the least bullish...which is little bothersome. geeze Will those Dps in Maine and this setup look familiar. Do you have any prog maps from 08? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericnh Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 looks like the gray maine nws is caving to the nam! really changes there tune forcentral and southeaset NH dropped all watches to advisories with minimal snow to rain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 The way this is playing out in MA, I think they should ressurect the aptly named Weather Bureau "travelers' advisory". Whole bunch of meh and no need to talk about much else. That said, I did just tell my wife I'd go with the odds that school will be closed tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RI Rob Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 The way this is playing out in MA, I think they should ressurect the aptly named Weather Bureau "travelers' advisory". Whole bunch of meh and no need to talk about much else. That said, I did just tell my wife I'd go with the odds that school will be closed tomorrow. Due to the ice factor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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moneypitmike Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Due to the ice factor? Actually due to the fact that all the teachers are grubling they haven't had a snowday yet. Seriously though, primarily icy roads. Our district is over 400 square miles (largest in the state) with bus routes that include dirt roads, steep hills, etc. So, even if the main roads are good, there's a lot of miles over tough terrain in the district. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RI Rob Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Actually due to the fact that all the teachers are grubling they haven't had a snowday yet. Which my teachers were like that.. Damn private schools.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericnh Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 NWS just dropped the watch and issued wwa for hillsborough and cheshire county for 3 to 6 inches of snow and some ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericnh Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAUNTON MA 400 PM EST WED JAN 11 2012 ...A WINTER STORM WILL BRING ACCUMULATING SNOW AND SOME ICE TO THE INTERIOR LATE TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY... NHZ011-012-015-120500- /O.UPG.KBOX.WS.A.0001.120112T0600Z-120113T0000Z/ /O.EXB.KBOX.WW.Y.0001.120112T0600Z-120113T0000Z/ CHESHIRE NH-EASTERN HILLSBOROUGH NH- WESTERN AND CENTRAL HILLSBOROUGH NH- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...JAFFREY...KEENE...MANCHESTER...NASHUA... PETERBOROUGH...WEARE 400 PM EST WED JAN 11 2012 ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 1 AM TO 7 PM EST THURSDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TAUNTON HAS ISSUED A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW AND ICE...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 1 AM TO 7 PM EST THURSDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * LOCATIONS...CHESHIRE AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTIES OF SOUTHWEST NEW HAMPSHIRE. THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES AND TOWNS OF...JAFFREY... KEENE...MANCHESTER...NASHUA...PETERBOROUGH AND WEARE. * HAZARD TYPES...SNOW AND ICE. * ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 3 TO 6 INCHES...ALONG WITH UP TO A TENTH OF AN INCH OF ICE. * TIMING...SNOW WILL BEGIN TO FALL BETWEEN 3 AM AND 5 AM THURSDAY. * IMPACTS...DRIVING AND WALKING WILL BECOME DIFFICULT ON UNTREATED ROADWAYS AND SIDEWALKS. MOTORISTS NEED TO BE ESPECIALLY CAREFUL ON BRIDGES...OVERPASSES AND SECONDARY ROADWAYS WHERE SLIPPERY SPOTS CAN EASILY DEVELOP. * WINDS...NORTHEAST 10 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 MPH. * TEMPERATURES...IN THE LOWER 30S. * FORECAST UNCERTAINTY...HIGHEST PROBABILITIES OF SIGNIFICANT SNOW AND ICE ACCUMULATIONS OCCURRING WILL BE ACROSS NORTHERN PORTIONS OF CHESHIRE AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTIES. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS ISSUED WHEN SNOW AND/OR ICE IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP IN THE AFFECTED AREAS...BUT ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE LIGHT. ANY SNOW OR ICE WOULD MAKE DRIVING AND WALKING DIFFICULT...BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE...ON UNTREATED ROADWAYS AND SIDEWALKS. WHEN TEMPERATURES ARE BELOW FREEZING...MOTORISTS NEED TO BE ESPECIALLY CAREFUL ON BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES WHERE SLIPPERY SPOTS CAN EASILY DEVELOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambone Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Some people failed to get put into the donating group automatically. You should be all set now. Fixed CapeCodWeather too. If anyone else who donated is seeing ads, PM me and I'll fix. Why are we called "Donators" instead of "Donors"? Did George Bush write the copy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Actually due to the fact that all the teachers are grubling they haven't had a snowday yet. Seriously though, primarily icy roads. Our district is over 400 square miles (largest in the state) with bus routes that include dirt roads, steep hills, etc. So, even if the main roads are good, there's a lot of miles over tough terrain in the district. lol We have had 2! in October (but we made up 1) The rural districts are usually some of the first to cancel. Anyway, a delay seems more likely here (Quabbin, Gardner, Leominster) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I went 5-10" here and the foothills, 4-8" mtns and central maine, and 3-6" in the county Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Why are we called "Donators" instead of "Donors"? Did George Bush write the copy? Why you giving blood? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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