dryslot Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Well there was that one chart Will showed that morning, but the coldest spots didn't show up because nobody had power...lol. It was between 28-30 for most spots I believe. But the air was never totally saturated and constantly advecting in lower TD air from the northeast. So this did two things. Number 1, you had a continuous source of cold air. The latent heat never built up enough to warm the atmosphere because it was constantly being removed. It was sent to Kevin's house..lol. Number 2, having a t-td spread of a few degrees along with 20-25kt winds will help with evaporational cooling. So putting it all together, you had the most perfect setup for icing. Our wors't icing event was in 1998 here, We had surface temps between 22-24F with i think a 1038mb high north of here with LP passing to our west, We had over 1" ice accreation changed the landscape up here forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 You'll drain and radiate and wetbulb. You shouldn't worry too much about the surface until the end whwre you may pop to 33 or something. This season has drained the life from me pretty efficienctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I'm simply amazed at how tough it has been to change this pattern even when globally things start moving. Winters have personalities it seems. Of course, one can hold out the hope that ours will change at some point like last year's but in the opposite direction. But the flips of 2006-07 are quite rare. Patterns moderate but very rarely do they go night and day like that winter. All we've done is exchange one bad pattern for another bad battern but with a 7 day bobble in between. I just cannot believe how many major mets bought into the whole thing. I mean well respected people were out of their shoes clammoring about Boston Harbor becoming Dutch Harbor by the end of the month. S/W is still very impressive on the vapor, be interested to see if the Euro punches a bit more ML warmth in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 This season has drained the life from me pretty efficienctly. Just don't advect a toaster into the tub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Just don't advect a toaster into the tub. Our NAO will be burgeoning come April....Lackey and Dice K will be sitting in the dugout with eskimo jackets over their casts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Just don't advect a toaster into the tub. I'm happy for the northern folks getting their frozen but how can you not enjoy this weather? 100% sunshine again today, it doesn't even feel cold even though it's only 40. Roads are clean, no messy ice or snowbanks anywhere. If we don't get a good one in the next week....I cross my fingers for one epic bomb of a storm and then move onto a toast for March. What did the UK do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Our NAO will be burgeoning come April....Lackey and Dice K will be sitting in the dugout with eskimo jackets over their casts. Stratus and drizzle will be burgeoning off Mass Bay..lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Stratus and drizzle will be burgeoning off Mass Bay..lol. Not likely. If we never get a cold shot here temps will be 5 or more degrees above normal heading into spring, shortening the window for that type of crap. The faster we get to 55ish, the faster we lose the fog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Where's Kevin? I never remember him being totally MIA for this long..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I'm happy for the northern folks getting their frozen but how can you not enjoy this weather? 100% sunshine again today, it doesn't even feel cold even though it's only 40. Roads are clean, no messy ice or snowbanks anywhere. If we don't get a good one in the next week....I cross my fingers for one epic bomb of a storm and then move onto a toast for March. What did the UK do? I didn't see a big difference in the ukie from the other models. I personally don't enjoy 40F wx in Jan. It's brown and useless outside. Everything looks dead and depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Not likely. If we never get a cold shot here temps will be 5 or more degrees above normal heading into spring, shortening the window for that type of crap. The faster we get to 55ish, the faster we lose the fog. Nah, we'll always have fog. It can be 80F right through the winter and we'll still get screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I know Will is forecasting....I'll post the euro maps when they come out in the next 30 min or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Our NAO will be burgeoning come April....Lackey and Dice K will be sitting in the dugout with eskimo jackets over their casts. With a bucket of KFC and a 30 pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Previous map: Updated map: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 The '08 ice storm actually had temps mostly 30F or higher...I think I briefly got to like 29.7F or something in that event, but the majority of it was 30-31F. It was the lower dews being advected in from the NE that made it possible to get crushed despite marginal temps. We were ripping like 20-25 from the northeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Previous map: http://www.americanw...ost__p__1262647 Updated map: I like that map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I didn't see a big difference in the ukie from the other models. I personally don't enjoy 40F wx in Jan. It's brown and useless outside. Everything looks dead and depressing. Yes. While it's fine to walk around in, winter without snow is depressing. Short dark days, brown ugly landscape.... But....walking around when it's mild is easier, lighter coats etc. Still, if we're not going to get snow I'd much prefer summer. I know alot on this forum hate summer but I like 2 seasons, winter and summer. Spring and Fall are useless and now that this winter is snowless, we can throw that in too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Previous map: http://www.americanw...ost__p__1262647 Updated map: I love that map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Hey Jeff...(drylot)...any room at the inn? lol... Maybe a trip to site visit a program up there......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 The ME duck getting hit hard Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Euro doesn't look that different from 00z for down here...maybe a touch warmer, but its also faster with the precip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Gotta go out and probably not time to wait for the Wxunderground maps.. If anyone gets a quick look at the 24 and 36 hour Euro panels .....give us the bad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Hey Jeff...(drylot)...any room at the inn? lol... Maybe a trip to site visit a program up there......... Lol, Always room, food and drink Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Maybe my wildest dreams of 1-2 inches of snow/sleet are intact. LOL Euro doesn't look that different from 00z for down here...maybe a touch warmer, but its also faster with the precip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Nah, we'll always have fog. It can be 80F right through the winter and we'll still get screwed. There's days where it's 90 and we have fog here while you are all roasty. But those days diminish rapidly once the water temp gets above a certain point...in the last 8 or 9 years of watching it's been right about 53-55. Biggest Euro run of our lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Yes. While it's fine to walk around in, winter without snow is depressing. Short dark days, brown ugly landscape.... But....walking around when it's mild is easier, lighter coats etc. Still, if we're not going to get snow I'd much prefer summer. I know alot on this forum hate summer but I like 2 seasons, winter and summer. Spring and Fall are useless and now that this winter is snowless, we can throw that in too. Haha, it's easy to hate spring in Boston when you don't get one! I agree... give me snow or give me warmth... brutal cold is pretty much only useful in its ability to preserve snow. My ranking of winter "quadrants": Cold and wet (obviously, unless the wet is rain) Warm and dry Cold and dry (still a tease, but at least I know ski country can survive... this would be moved up in the days when I used to ski frequently) Warm and wet (getting rained on a lot in winter just erodes a snowlover's soul) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 For those worried about a cold air source, it is in the low single numbers in northern ME. Remember so many in SNE were weeneeing about the event that dropped 20 in NYC but all rain in most of NE? That was the elephant in the room....40 in Caribou. Right now it's 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Yes. While it's fine to walk around in, winter without snow is depressing. Short dark days, brown ugly landscape.... But....walking around when it's mild is easier, lighter coats etc. Still, if we're not going to get snow I'd much prefer summer. I know alot on this forum hate summer but I like 2 seasons, winter and summer. Spring and Fall are useless and now that this winter is snowless, we can throw that in too. Yeah I mean to each his own. I just like the landscape looking white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Yeah I mean to each his own. I just like the landscape looking white. My lawn is mostly green still....but dingy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Euro looks faster. When comparing 12z tomorrow..it appears warmer, but could be a product of speed. So net-net..might be similar to 00z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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