snowman21 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Counting October is an injustice, I know its by the books, but it does not mean its right. We can still make a run at least snowiest winter, since that technically runs from Dec 1-Feb 29, and the first half has been virtually snowless. For example, last winter was the snowiest on record at BDL because NWS only counts Dec-Feb snows in the winter seasonal total. So far at the climate sites for the winter: BOS...0.5 BDL.....T PVD.....T ORH...4.1 So far BDL is at a whopping 0.0''. Actually it did snow there: KBDL 120751Z 04005KT 8SM -RASN OVC014 02/01 A2990 RMK AO2 SNB50 SLP126 P0004 T00220006 So they got at least a trace. BDL gets to escape the dreaded 0.0 for the month; not that a trace is any consolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 We can still make a run at least snowiest winter, since that technically runs from Dec 1-Feb 29, and the first half has been virtually snowless. For example, last winter was the snowiest on record at BDL because NWS only counts Dec-Feb snows in the winter seasonal total. So far at the climate sites for the winter: BOS...0.5 BDL.....T PVD.....T ORH...4.1 Actually it did snow there: KBDL 120751Z 04005KT 8SM -RASN OVC014 02/01 A2990 RMK AO2 SNB50 SLP126 P0004 T00220006 So they got at least a trace. BDL gets to escape the dreaded 0.0 for the month; not that a trace is any consolation. Well at least a T looks better than a 0.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I'm only 2 KU's away from my seasonal average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 This is kind of like saying we shouldn't count historic heat waves in April or May toward the 90F totals. and I agree. if you did not get another flake of snow the rest of winter, to look back and say well orh got 20 inches of snow in winter, its just not true, it happened in oct and should be counted in the 10-11' totals. Its bs, I am not including mine in this years totals, its just wrong and skews just how bad this winter has been. Pete prounces around with his almost 43, Bull****, he has had 11 inches of snow since nov 1st.................BEYOND pathetic. OCt snow should be counted in 10-11' totals, its pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 and I agree. if you did not get another flake of snow the rest of winter, to look back and say well orh got 20 inches of snow in winter, its just not true, it happened in oct and should be counted in the 10-11' totals. Its bs, I am not including mine in this years totals, its just wrong and skews just how bad this winter has been. Pete prounces around with his almost 43, Bull****, he has had 11 inches of snow since nov 1st.................BEYOND pathetic. OCt snow should be counted in 10-11' totals, its pretty simple. Lol...how in the heck can you include October in the 2010-2011 totals? So its more honest and truthful to say that I got 117" of snow last winter because I got 18.8" in October? That makes a lot of sense. My point isn't to use October to say the winter has been "good"...but its the cold season snowfall statistic. I don't think anyone in Boston says 1996-1997 was a great winter in Dec/Jan/Feb, but almost all snow lovers would say it was probably worth the wait to get that HECS on April 1st...the HECS happened and it counts toward their total. Or do you think the April 1997 total should have been counted toward the 1995-1996 seasonal total? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 and I agree. if you did not get another flake of snow the rest of winter, to look back and say well orh got 20 inches of snow in winter, its just not true, it happened in oct and should be counted in the 10-11' totals. Its bs, I am not including mine in this years totals, its just wrong and skews just how bad this winter has been. Pete prounces around with his almost 43, Bull****, he has had 11 inches of snow since nov 1st.................BEYOND pathetic. OCt snow should be counted in 10-11' totals, its pretty simple. Dude, it counts to 11-12... that's pretty simple. Let's say we held that October snowpack into December with below normal temps... then would it still not count? You're a and should be a front runner for WOTY 2012. Joe, please just have a meltdown post and.get it over with! Everyone's done it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boolean Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 okay so where are the folks who were just last week saying stuff like 'boston will get less than 5"' as of midnight bos is up to 2.7. so only 2.3 left to go this year? or only 6.3 to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 okay so where are the folks who were just last week saying stuff like 'boston will get less than 5"' as of midnight bos is up to 2.7. so only 1.3 left to go this year? or only 6.3 to go? Most of us caved happily. After shoveling my 2.2 inches, I'm happy. Also, given how the past several events (including the cold of the weekend) have over performed, I'm growing more confident that we are experiencing the first days of the turn around. Btw...2.3 to hit 5 but once the post midnight number at BOS comes in it will likely be less. 14 days to do it. That said, if it isn't done within the next week we may indeed have to wait for february. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boolean Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 im going on record right now and say with two *possible* snow events coming up, bos will be over the 9" hump by sunday. mark it down. im stil sticking by 28" for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 im going on record right now and say with two *possible* snow events coming up, bos will be over the 9" hump by sunday. mark it down. im stil sticking by 28" for the season. I agree about The Sunday total. 28 may be low ironically. Squirrels may have been onto something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I may actually have to use my shovel for the first time this winter. Wow. Hey, get this, maybe even my snowblower will get some use if Saturday turns even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boolean Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 see how easy it is for it to snow...in winter...in bos?...even in the mildest of winters....it is hard/impossible to keep boston under 9". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Logan's 2.9 yesterday is bogus IMHO. Nevertheless, it means BOS must get >1.4 over the next 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Logan's 2.9 yesterday is bogus IMHO. Nevertheless, it means BOS must get >1.4 over the next 3 months. Still could be in the bottom 5 all time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Game still on for me, though I doubt it happens. Futility: 1979-'80- 19.9" 2011-'12- 14.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Game still on for me, though I doubt it happens. Futility: 1979-'80- 19.9" 2011-'12- 14.5" Closer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Logan's 2.9 yesterday is bogus IMHO. Nevertheless, it means BOS must get >1.4 over the next 3 months. What do ya think? Bottom 5 winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 What do ya think? Bottom 5 winter? I highly doubt it. Boston's bottom 5 winters are: 1. 9.0.....1936-1937 2. 10.3....1972-1973 3. 12.7"...1979-1980 4. 14.9"...1994-1995 5. 15.1....2001-2002 They would need 7.2" or less from here on out to crack the top 5. Climo from here on out is about 21-22" so that means about 1/3rd of climo from this point forward. With a better looking pattern coming up, I'd guess they do better than 1/3rd of climo the rest of the way. Though its always possible until the snow actually falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 They would need 7.2" or less from here on out to crack the top 5. Climo from here on out is about 21-22" so that means about 1/3rd of climo from this point forward. With a better looking pattern coming up, I'd guess they do better than 1/3rd of climo the rest of the way. Though its always possible until the snow actually falls. How were we (ORH or BOS) at this point in 1996/97? Weren't we way behind before April 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 How were we (ORH or BOS) at this point in 1996/97? Weren't we way behind before April 1? 1996-97 saw 16.5" through end of January 97 in KBOS 1996 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.8 5.0 9.7 4.8 8.2 22.4 0.0 0.0 [total 51.9] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 How were we (ORH or BOS) at this point in 1996/97? Weren't we way behind before April 1? ORH was at 35.3" at this point in '96-'97 and BOS was at 16.5" Nothing like 2006-2007 though when ORH was at 5.0" at this point, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Although expect the unexpected this winter, I'd be somewhat surprised if they got into the bottom 5. But who knows, they have no snow observer so expect dumb totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Thanks Will and Sniss(?) I seemed to remember that we were behind that winter before the Big Joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Jan 97 had these horrible 1-2" deals then rain. Snow OTG when you went to bed, but gone when you woke up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Bottom of the 6th and we've got a leadoff walk. They just took out the starting pitcher at 100 pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Bottom of the 6th and we've got a leadoff walk. They just took out the starting pitcher at 100 pitches. Bro we knocked the starting pitcher out last Sat , good middle relief this week but we eat up the setup man next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Bottom of the 6th and we've got a leadoff walk. They just took out the starting pitcher at 100 pitches. lets hope post (roids) gagne is warming up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Thanks Will and Sniss(?) I seemed to remember that we were behind that winter before the Big Joke 35.3" was right around climo for ORH at that point in 1997....but they fell behind in February with a dud month...then going into March 31st, they had 54.5" which is a solid 12" below climo, but then got 33.0" to finish at 87.5" 1955-1956 probably had the most impressive late season comeback...on March 13th, ORH stood at 39.8" for the season and finished with 84.9". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Regarding. BOS: 1997... February had 4.8 in what I remember an obscenely warm month. I think it was near 70 at one point. March started to produce and the April fools storm is the big one but there were other smaller events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Regarding. BOS: 1997... February had 4.8 in what I remember an obscenely warm month. I think it was near 70 at one point. March started to produce and the April fools storm is the big one but there were other smaller events. Yeah February 1997 was a dud...near +5 and 7.6" of snow even here. March '97 had like 3 separate advisory type events between the 8th and 15th or so...I remember that 2nd week of March being cold and snowy. The cold stuck around for the next couple weeks too until a big warmup right before the big one. I think the day before the storm it was near 60F. I remember hitting golf balls at he driving range in preparation for golf team tryouts and telling a couple guys at the range that we were gonna get whacked with a 6-12" storm (little did we know how big it would get) and they said I was full of sh**, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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