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The Official Winter 2011-12 Futility Record Thread


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All kidding aside, I hope we get a semi decent storm to track. I know some think a 2" storm is garbage and in some ways it is...but a 2" storm would certainly brighten it up around here for a day anyways.

Agree. We need something to bring the plows out. They are really struggling along with the ski resorts. A 3-6" storm would be so good for the soul right now.

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Decided to see how bad this DJF has been at BOS and ORH for snow...amazingly it won't break any records, but its been pretty terrible snowfall wise.

Least amount of snow in DJF....

ORH:

8.7"......1936-1937

9.4"......1979-1980

10.2".....1954-1955 (least snowiest season overall)

11.8".....1943-1944

14.4".....2011-2012 (through Feb 19)

15.5".....1988-1989

BOS:

2.7".......1936-1937 (least snowiest season overall)

6.4".......2006-2007

6.8".......2011-2012 (through Feb 19)

8.9".......1979-1980

10.2".....1991-1992

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Decided to see how bad this DJF has been at BOS and ORH for snow...amazingly it won't break any records, but its been pretty terrible snowfall wise.

Least amount of snow in DJF....

ORH:

8.7"......1936-1937

9.4"......1979-1980

10.2".....1954-1955 (least snowiest season overall)

11.8".....1943-1944

14.4".....2011-2012 (through Feb 19)

15.5".....1988-1989

BOS:

2.7".......1936-1937 (least snowiest season overall)

6.4".......2006-2007

6.8".......2011-2012 (through Feb 19)

8.9".......1979-1980

10.2".....1991-1992

Wait - 1936-1937 had 9.0" @ BOS according to NWS? The reason I ask, if the season ended now -

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Wait - 1936-1937 had 9.0" @ BOS according to NWS? The reason I ask, if the season ended now -

I was just doing December, January, February (DJF)...not the whole season. Because people kept asking about DJF when we refer to the October snowfall this year. BOS had most of its snow in 1936-1937 in the other months as seen by their pathetic DJF total.

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I was just doing December, January, February (DJF)...not the whole season. Because people kept asking about DJF when we refer to the October snowfall this year. BOS had most of its snow in 1936-1937 in the other months as seen by their pathetic DJF total.

Oh I see. Well, for ORH its a lost cause, but BOS is on the hot seat.

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Oh I see. Well, for ORH its a lost cause, but BOS is on the hot seat.

BOS has 7.8" on the season total (since they got 1.0" in October)...so they have 1.2" of wiggle room. Extremely unlikely they set the record but a top 3 or top 5 least snowy seasons is becoming a solid possibility.

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It's also ironic that I have been criticized for posting a harmless pic or a weenie without commentary, but here we have a thread FOR futulity, yet I am being insulted for taking a vested interest in it with no objection from moderators.

Unreal and whacked out moderation.

It's because the moderators all think the same. Think about it...who is a moderator in our subforums from the other side? Shouldn't there be a ying and a yang?

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It's because the moderators all think the same. Think about it...who is a moderator in our subforums from the other side? Shouldn't there be a ying and a yang?

Ray can cry me a river and you can agree...but I'm sorry, he has gotten away with more than most people here during his venting meltdowns....and he has the gall to call out the mods here? We're quite lenient, and especially have been with him, so I have zero sympathy because he feels hurt that people thought his idea for rooting for a futility record was bizarre.

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Ray can cry me a river and you can agree...but I'm sorry, he has gotten away with more than most people here during his venting meltdowns....and he has the gall to call out the mods here? We're quite lenient, and especially have been with him, so I have zero sympathy because he feels hurt that people thought his idea for rooting for a futility record was bizarre.

Maybe true. To be clear, I mainly have a problem with the fact you guys were forced to make changes that apparently apply nowhere else. I'm sure powderfreak is cuing the guy in the red ski jacet and a comment...but the moderation here to me is fine (in our forum) as long as the others follow the rules.

It bugs me when I see one person in particular breaking every rule right under a head admins nose and nothign is done.

If the option is 3 1/3 of an inch events to keep from breaking the record, or smashing the record, or a 15" event I'll take the latter. If it's between the first two I'll take the record.

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If the option is 3 1/3 of an inch events to keep from breaking the record, or smashing the record, or a 15" event I'll take the latter. If it's between the first two I'll take the record.

I def agree the bigger event is much more satisfying and interesting to track. I like all snow so I wouldn't root for getting no snow versus even some cruddy events...but the smaller events do start to lose appeal the later the season gets so I understand why people would root for futility over them. But everyone has their own opinion on it.

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I decided to see what each station had after March 1st in the years I listed previously....below is the original years of least snowfall in the months of DJF...to the right I added the snowfall after March 1st (note: the two values added doesn't necessarily equal the seasonal total since October and November were excluded from each data set):

ORH:

8.7"......1936-1937....12.0"

9.4"......1979-1980....9.7"

10.2".....1954-1955...10.0"

11.8".....1943-1944....14.1"

14.4".....2011-2012....NA

15.5".....1988-1989....12.2"

BOS:

2.7".......1936-1937....1.9"

6.4".......2006-2007....10.7"

6.8".......2011-2012....NA

8.9".......1979-1980....3.6"

10.2".....1991-1992 ...11.8"

BOS would need lower than any of those years to break their futiulity record assuming they do not get any more snow in February this year. ORH can't break any futility records but those years roughly equaled the DJF snow after March 1st. Ditto Boston.

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Maybe true. To be clear, I mainly have a problem with the fact you guys were forced to make changes that apparently apply nowhere else. I'm sure powderfreak is cuing the guy in the red ski jacet and a comment...but the moderation here to me is fine (in our forum) as long as the others follow the rules.

It bugs me when I see one person in particular breaking every rule right under a head admins nose and nothign is done.

If the option is 3 1/3 of an inch events to keep from breaking the record, or smashing the record, or a 15" event I'll take the latter. If it's between the first two I'll take the record.

Someone get the ski patrol.... ;)

Its not that I don't agree with you Mess... I do... its just I think its sort of a moot point that's obviously not going to change so its probably not worth the time and effort to go on about it.

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I decided to see what each station had after March 1st in the years I listed previously....below is the original years of least snowfall in the months of DJF...to the right I added the snowfall after March 1st (note: the two values added doesn't necessarily equal the seasonal total since October and November were excluded from each data set):

ORH:

8.7"......1936-1937....12.0"

9.4"......1979-1980....9.7"

10.2".....1954-1955...10.0"

11.8".....1943-1944....14.1"

14.4".....2011-2012....NA

15.5".....1988-1989....12.2"

BOS:

2.7".......1936-1937....1.9"

6.4".......2006-2007....10.7"

6.8".......2011-2012....NA

8.9".......1979-1980....3.6"

10.2".....1991-1992 ...11.8"

BOS would need lower than any of those years to break their futiulity record assuming they do not get any more snow in February this year. ORH can't break any futility records but those years roughly equaled the DJF snow after March 1st. Ditto Boston.

Coincidentally, I need 5.0" to not break the 1980 record of 19.9"......March 1980 had 5.0".

:lol:

March 1991 had 4.1" and March 1995 had .5"...those would get 'er done.

March 1989 saw 5.8"

Moral of the story is that it's gonna be a close dog fight....as I have been implying for a couple of months.

Not at all far fetched, as some have stated.

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Ray can cry me a river and you can agree...but I'm sorry, he has gotten away with more than most people here during his venting meltdowns....and he has the gall to call out the mods here? We're quite lenient, and especially have been with him, so I have zero sympathy because he feels hurt that people thought his idea for rooting for a futility record was bizarre.

I'm sure I overreacted because I have some crap going on, but I think there is a diff. between simply being a clown and being degrading. I just think you need to be tactful in deabating the thoughts and opinions of others, sarcasm aside.

Anyway, speaking of rivers, they won't be too filled this spring.

Assuming no more snow here this month (I know, huge leap of faith), my DJF 9.5" would trump 1980's 11.9" for the most futile DJF on record.

'88-'89 saw 13.5", '91-'92 had 15.6", '90-'91 was 24.1" and '94-'95 came in with an epic18.3"

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In conclusion, this IS THE worst DJF imby on record.

Case closed.

DJF Season March

12' 9.5" * 15" -

'80 11.9" 19.9" * 5"

'89 13.5" 20.3" 5.8"

'91 24.1" 28.2" 4.1"

'92 15.6" 26.6" 9.4"

'95 18.3" 22.5" .5"

2\5 of the March analogs break the record.........one misses by .1", one by .9" and one by 4.5".

One analog March of the five leaves more than an inch to spare with regard to the record, all others come LESS than an inch away from breaking it.

The mean March snowfall of the 5 season set is 4.96, which DOES break the record.

1\500 cancel and the stats are now on my side. lol

*April '89 saw 1" and April '92 saw 1.5", which if factored in makes the mean 5.5" and that would not break the record.

In sum, it's essentially a coin flip.

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