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So the QPF is heavier down there way than it is up this way?

Slightly, but the thermal profiles are borderline. Such is life in this pattern -- if you want snow, you're going to have to really teeter on the edge of warmth and probably will change over to rain.

It ends up being a 1-2" event up here, anyway.

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Severe Thunderstorm Warnings in New York State.

Forecast for this exact location tonight mentions chance for an inch of snow.

SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BUFFALO NY

606 PM EST TUE JAN 17 2012

NYC029-037-063-073-121-172315-

/O.CON.KBUF.SV.W.0003.000000T0000Z-120117T2315Z/

GENESEE NY-WYOMING NY-NIAGARA NY-ORLEANS NY-ERIE NY-

606 PM EST TUE JAN 17 2012

...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 615 PM EST

FOR NORTHERN ERIE...SOUTHWESTERN ORLEANS...SOUTHERN NIAGARA...

NORTHWESTERN WYOMING AND WESTERN GENESEE COUNTIES...

AT 600 PM EST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR CONTINUED TO

INDICATE A LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING

DESTRUCTIVE WINDS IN EXCESS OF 70 MPH. THESE STORMS WERE LOCATED

ALONG A LINE EXTENDING FROM PENDLETON TO EDEN...OR ALONG A LINE

EXTENDING FROM AMHERST TO HAMBURG...MOVING EAST AT 70 MPH.

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Severe Thunderstorm Warnings in New York State.

Forecast for this exact location tonight mentions chance for an inch of snow.

SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BUFFALO NY

606 PM EST TUE JAN 17 2012

NYC029-037-063-073-121-172315-

/O.CON.KBUF.SV.W.0003.000000T0000Z-120117T2315Z/

GENESEE NY-WYOMING NY-NIAGARA NY-ORLEANS NY-ERIE NY-

606 PM EST TUE JAN 17 2012

...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 615 PM EST

FOR NORTHERN ERIE...SOUTHWESTERN ORLEANS...SOUTHERN NIAGARA...

NORTHWESTERN WYOMING AND WESTERN GENESEE COUNTIES...

AT 600 PM EST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR CONTINUED TO

INDICATE A LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING

DESTRUCTIVE WINDS IN EXCESS OF 70 MPH. THESE STORMS WERE LOCATED

ALONG A LINE EXTENDING FROM PENDLETON TO EDEN...OR ALONG A LINE

EXTENDING FROM AMHERST TO HAMBURG...MOVING EAST AT 70 MPH.

What is causing the line of storms to form?

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Always nice to be in the warm sector.

There's an interesting temperature contrast as well. Buffalo is in the 40s, while this location not too far east is at 55 degrees, and not too far east of there temps drop back into the 40s. Meanwhile temperatures in northern NJ are still stuck below 45 degrees.

The intellicast temperature map shows just how limited the area of warmth is, which is right on top of the line of thunderstorms as well:

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Looking outside of the snow tomorrow, I'm thinking that a weak squall line with showers and perhaps thunderstorms could affect the area around Monday afternoon/evening... the models are generally consistent with a strong squall line moving through, with a decent surge of warmth ahead of the front bringing temperatures likely into the low to mid 50s in parts of the area, followed by the cold front moving through. The GFS seems to have the most precipitation, although the NAM also seems to have a moderate squall line along with the CMC, and with scenarios like this one that we've seen before, in places where there's more convection perhaps there could also be some thunder. It would be quite interesting going from snow and 20s to thunderstorms in 50s in just 2 days...

12z NAM for what it's worth:

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Anyone see this for next week?

Thursday Night: A chance of snow, freezing rain, and sleet. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 30. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Friday: A chance of rain, snow, freezing rain, and sleet. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 47. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

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Anyone see this for next week?

Thursday Night: A chance of snow, freezing rain, and sleet. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 30. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Friday: A chance of rain, snow, freezing rain, and sleet. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 47. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

a big bag of LOL, dude first deal with this storm first, then worry about next week, next week.

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Up to this point in the winter, we're pretty much replicating 01-02. It's interesting that the first storm of that winter also occurred on Jan 20th with a large area of 3-6" locally higher across the area. Of course that was more or less the only event of the winter; I don't expect that to be the case here.

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Up to this point in the winter, we're pretty much replicating 01-02. It's interesting that the first storm of that winter also occurred on Jan 20th with a large area of 3-6" locally higher across the area. Of course that was more or less the only event of the winter; I don't expect that to be the case here.

Im literally jumping out of my skin here at what i see developing after this week. Wow.

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