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Yeah, it's been like that for 3 or 4 runs. :lol:

It's 20.6" at the airport, 18.2" city. City hasn't been keeping consistent records this year, but the airport is at 3.7" for the season thus far.

It will be interesting to see how this ends up. I still think winter has several goods to deliver with all the severe cold being shown in Canada (just not YBY). I just don't see any needed blocking happening for any prolong snowcover.

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:lol: too kind. I just listed the snowfall per decade at Pearson but I'll take the compliment.

Unless that was sarcasm. <_<

lol, nah man I'm being truthful, that was some great analysis ;)

The next 10-15 days after this week look fairly stormy, lets hope we can grab a decent storm esp with the persisting cold anomalies across the West.

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I'm turning into a big Don S. fan. No hype, no spin, no motive or bias, has done an excellent job with laying out the midterm forecasts. The rest of them, (outside amwx), have an agenda to see who can attract the most weenie attention. DT is almost as bad as JB lately, (posting a euro snowfall map showing feet of snow in the MA and recently headlining "historic pattern change coming" with posts on FB about being so excited about the pattern flip he couldn't sleep). That's the kind of stuff he would knock JB and accuwx for doing all the time.

Apparently it's so intoxicating to win over a weenie following, they will compromise their own reputations. Then when a big storm does hit, they all beat up each other over who called it first. If I were a pro met I'd be looking at these guys like :facepalm:

I don't know why anyone would pay for them (JB, DT & so on that is). Please just send money to me and I will put it to better use :rambo:

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From 2001 onward my average snowfall went up at least 12 inches per year. My average snowfall is around 52 inches and since 2000 my average has probably been near 60-65.

Yup, Detroit has officially seen FIVE 60"+ winters in the past 10 years, and TEN 60"+ winters in the previous 122 years :snowing:

For some reason Toronto has seen a steady decline in snowfall that the rest of the region has not seen. But it is clearly happening for whatever reason. Torontos snowfall records from the 19th century compared to the 21st century make it look like a completely different place.

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Yup, Detroit has officially seen FIVE 60"+ winters in the past 10 years, and TEN 60"+ winters in the previous 122 years :snowing:

For some reason Toronto has seen a steady decline in snowfall that the rest of the region has not seen. But it is clearly happening for whatever reason. Torontos snowfall records from the 19th century compared to the 21st century make it look like a completely different place.

After this winter's done and I have a little time I'm going to see how BOS, ALB, BUF, YOW, YUL compare in terms of snowfall average fluctuations over the last century. Might be something occurring in the far eastern lakes and eastward.

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Mr Deedler,

Probably asking the impossible, but any chance we avoid the late month torch being advertised by the EURO/GFS ensembles?

I sure hope so, if not at least turn it around immediately at February. Oh, we will see shots of snow before February, but it would be nice to frickin SUSTAIN a wintry pattern. There is a lot of cold bottling up in Canada. Do we REALLY want a cold, raw April? Please ma nature, send it down ASAP!

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Which a gradient pattern would certainly offer. Snowstorm lovers rejoice, snowcover lovers mourn.

We don't really get a decent gradient pattern. In fact if the GFS and EURO verify, we zonal out and torch. I think many of us will get past the anger stage of grieving and move on to the acceptance stage. Sub 20 or 30 inch winter is well in reach!

Why do you think April will be chilly? Even if a pattern change were to happen it wouldn't completely mean a cooler than normal spring.

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Looks very mild starting next weekend... The latest 00z GFS is less bullish on the cold in the day 10-16 range but won't buy that till I see some consistency. Overall here in Ohio we have had a grand total of 1.5 inches of snow this winter. Temperatures are about +4... Were not alone as we all know. Were suffering through an ugly winter together....

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12z EURO bring out the spring clothes folks! The 540 line basically north of the border the nation is basically torched beyond day 7.... Like last year we saw relaxations to warmer at times and this year is just the opposite where we have relaxations to colder and should get another one of those to begin February... I do believe we will have another major torch in February and if its late enough some areas in the Ohio Valley may get into the 70's......

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APX confirms DT's thinking as to why our pattern change is going to be so short lived:

SIGNIFICANT WARMING TRENDS LOOKING MORE LIKELY AS WE HEAD INTO NEXT

WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WORK WEEK (AT LEAST). CURRENT NORTHERN

HEMISPHERIC 5-WAVE 500MB HEIGHT ANALYSIS SHOWS A RATHER CONVOLUTED 4

WAVE STRUCTURE...WITH MOST NOTABLE FEATURE OF INTEREST BEING

BUILDING BERING STRAITS RIDGE BOOKENDED BY NORTHEAST NOAM AND FAR

NORTHWEST PACIFIC TROUGHS. UNFORTUNATELY...AT LEAST FOR WINTER

ENTHUSIASTS...ALL EVIDENCE SUPPORTS A SLOW RETROGRESSION OF THESE

FEATURES...WITH EVENTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF WESTERN NOAM LONGWAVE

TROUGH...AND SUBSEQUENT DOWNSTREAM SOUTHEAST RIDGE AMPLIFICATION

(EARLIER MUCH TALKED ABOUT CHANGE TO A COLDER WEATHER REGIME

ANTICIPATED AN EXPANSION OF THE BERING SEA RIDGE ACROSS THE

POLE...EVENTUALLY LINKING UP WITH A DEVELOPING WEST DISPLACED

ATLANTIC BLOCK...THE COMBINATION OF WHICH WOULD HAVE FORCED MUCH

COLDER AIR INTO THE CONUS. THIS NOW APPEARS TO HAVE AN EXCEEDINGLY

LOW PROBABILITY OF OCCURRING). WITH THE NOW WELL AGREED UPON PATTERN

CHANGE EXPECTED ABOVE...THE RESERVOIR OF COLD AIR TO OUR NORTH WILL

RETREAT...ALLOWING MODIFIED PACIFIC AIR TO QUICKLY OVERSPREAD MUCH

OF THE CONUS BY NEXT SUNDAY...WITH WARM AIR FURTHER SPREADING NORTH

INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. SOME OF THE GUIDANCE PROGS ARE DOWNRIGHT

REMARKABLE...WITH 00Z ECMWF 2 METER TEMPERATURES PUSHING INTO THE

MIDDLE 30S AND LOWER 40S SUNDAY...AND EVEN SEVERAL DEGREES WARMER BY

MONDAY. LATEST GFS A LITTLE QUICKER MOVING THE WARM AIR OUT...BUT

STILL FEATURING MUCH ABOVE NORMAL READINGS SUNDAY INTO MONDAY.

FORECAST WILL FEATURE SATURDAY HIGHS IN THE UPPER 20S AND LOWER

30S...WARMING TO NEAR 40 ACROSS MUCH OF NORTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN BY

SUNDAY. STRENGTH OF WAA ARGUES FOR AT LEAST A CHANCE OF RAIN AND

SNOW OVER THE WEEKEND. WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE JUST HOW WARM WE

GET EARLY NEXT WEEK.

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We got the cold air, just need to get the right blocking or setup. January 2002 had a huge torch followed by a major storm for parts of the MW after the torch.

There were a few very nice winter storms in 2001-02. They just didnt last. The Jan 30-31 snow/ice storm was one of the most amazing winter storms Ive experienced in terms of impact, but again...snowcover was always shortlived. I figured this winter wouldnt have a sustained snowpack like last, but it looks like it may be worse than I imagined. Nevertheless, theres no doubt more winter storms are to come. Just REALLY hope a sustained pattern change to colder comes in Feb, not later.

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