dryslot Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 yeah for up around your area there's always a few places to find the secret snow. But not worth it for me. Too far to travel and I'm not that hardcore of a sledder. I enjoy the local deer runs of western mass and the nostalgia of it all. But I have been up in your neck of the woods in the past and know of what you speak. yeah, that site is great and seems to be fairly accurate. I've used it for a number of years to target where to ride. A couple guys from our local club that are diehards have put on over 400 miles, Back on topic, I hope the next few weeks at least give us some chances at snow as we are losing valuable seat time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah440 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Mine are loaded, serviced, and pointed north. My kids are freaking out!! the lake effect for the Tug Hill was not widespread enough to go this weekend, which is our usual first family trip. Next weekend doesn't look much better....Hell or high water, we go the following weekend even if it is rocks. Nothing is open though. I think you are going to have to go well north of the border. Tug Hill is insane and downright dangerous IMO. Can you imagine the ****show if we get any kind of LE event that buries TH only. I recall a few yrs ago when it was the only place open and I made that mistake. Not my cup of tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 We'll have lost at least 1/2 of winter as of jan 15th. A snowless 1/2 of winter. Never in my wildest dreams did i think that could ever happen Your over dramatic today... 06-07? forget it people already said it im late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I think first prolonged cold shot of season is coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 The euro has been overdoing the -PNA as of late. Might be something to watch going forward..gives rise to Ryan's thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 2006-7 ... amazing turn-around. I remember we got an inch at the end of December, but that was it. Got a good arctic blast in late January, which was supposed to come with a big snow storm, but that didn't materialize. Then the evening of February 2nd, we were expecting a couple of inches, that over-performed in Keene to about 4". And then of course Valentine's Day and St. Patrick's Day and Tax Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 The Euro last night looked liked it put the AO in the freezer by day 10 but Raleigh's plots only show slightly positive neutral...what gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Outstanding! I just briefly reviewed the 06z GFS and the 00z Euro. 384 hours worth of cold varieties, numbing at times, and not 1 inch of QPF falls as snow - that's ....incredible. ahahhahaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Outstanding! I just briefly reviewed the 06z GFS and the 00z Euro. 384 hours worth of cold varieties, numbing at times, and not 1 inch of QPF falls as snow - that's ....incredible. ahahhahaa I'll happily take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 The euro has been overdoing the -PNA as of late. Might be something to watch going forward..gives rise to Ryan's thoughts. Funny that we actually want the PNA to go <0 for something to actually track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Funny that we actually want the PNA to go <0 for something to actually track. I don't even need coastals, just some nice snowfalls here and there to go along with the cold would be nice. Cold and dry sucks, so I hope that isn't the case. Hopefully the PV can meander into Hudson Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I don't even need coastals, just some nice snowfalls here and there to go along with the cold would be nice. Cold and dry sucks, so I hope that isn't the case. Hopefully the PV can meander into Hudson Bay. With not much (or transient) blocking you sort of want to ride the boundary for SWFE to bring you snow. A +PNA regime with a tanked -AO and a PV over eastern Canada with little upstream blocking can put you right to sleep this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 With not much (or transient) blocking you sort of want to ride the boundary for SWFE to bring you snow. A +PNA regime with a tanked -AO and a PV over eastern Canada with little upstream blocking can put you right to sleep this time of year. 1993-94. Hard to duplicate I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 All this worry of C & D..lol ..If it's cold..it will snow..If we build the pattern it will come. Dear Lord...always looking for what can go wrong instead of what can go right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Nothing has really changed when we look at 150-170 on the GFS. Same pattern as a week ago. Low comes up west or over us, we torch, it floods, then it gets bitterly cold and a front drops all the way to Cozumel. It's no different than this storm last week JMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 1993-94. Hard to duplicate I guess... What makes it challenging to duplicate is you really have the thread the needle with the features lining up perfectly. Upstream blocking gives everything a bit more wiggle room to wind up snowy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 All this worry of C & D..lol ..If it's cold..it will snow..If we build the pattern it will come. Dear ord...always looking for what can go wrong instead of what can go right You have been so ornery lately. Between winning WOTY and a snowless season since 10/30 you've become unpleasant. Hopefully this pattern works out because it would be nice to have the old Kevin back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 With not much (or transient) blocking you sort of want to ride the boundary for SWFE to bring you snow. A +PNA regime with a tanked -AO and a PV over eastern Canada with little upstream blocking can put you right to sleep this time of year. Well that's why I figured we may have more of a -PNA pattern given what models are showing. However, the euro has overdone the PNA which made me think. I'm still not worried about a whiff pattern right now, but we can't have the PV in Quebec. Hopefully it lands more into Hudson Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Well that's why I figured we may have more of a -PNA pattern given what models are showing. However, the euro has overdone the PNA which made me think. I'm still not worried about a whiff pattern right now, but we can't have the PV in Quebec. Hopefully it lands more into Hudson Bay. It doesn't necessarily have to be a whiff pattern either... it could be a rather mundane storm pattern with a fairly boring southern stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 You have been so ornery lately. Between winning WOTY and a snowless season since 10/30 you've become unpleasant. Hopefully this pattern works out because it would be nice to have the old Kevin back. Unpleasant is constant negativity. honestly. Can't you just post some positive things at least occasionally or at least things that we might be able to look forward to going forward..instead of constant doom and gloom. It's unpleasant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Nothing is open though. I think you are going to have to go well north of the border. Tug Hill is insane and downright dangerous IMO. Can you imagine the ****show if we get any kind of LE event that buries TH only. I recall a few yrs ago when it was the only place open and I made that mistake. Not my cup of tea. When the Tug Hill area is the ONLY place with snow in the NE, it becomes insanely dangerous for riding! Too many people on the trails, people not familar with the trails, and the trails end up getting beat up much quicker with the increased traffic. My favorite rides (used to, since I've moved from that area a bit) were during a day off work (Mon. or Tues. just after grooming) snowing at an inch/ hour, with no one else on the trails!! Perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Unpleasant is constant negativity. honestly. Can't you just post some positive things at least occasionally or at least things that we might be able to look forward to going forward..instead of constant doom and gloom. It's unpleasant It's going to get cold. Awesome. For most sane people cold without snow sucks. Hopefully the pattern will result in a few storm chances. If you've read my posts I've been talking about a storm threat around D10 (MLK day) as a secondary push of cold air comes in. After that I think it's important to look at how the pattern gets cold. If it's a tanked -AO with a +PNA I fear the first week will be a bit dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Unpleasant is constant negativity. honestly. Can't you just post some positive things at least occasionally or at least things that we might be able to look forward to going forward..instead of constant doom and gloom. It's unpleasant Makes a lot of sense, just look at all the snow we've had since 11/1....much more realistic to ask a pro on TV to lie to us to make us feel good. Dr. Phil is on at 3 in most markets, that's all good cheery stuff usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 All this worry of C & D..lol ..If it's cold..it will snow..If we build the pattern it will come. Dear Lord...always looking for what can go wrong instead of what can go right Woty living it up. Cold and dry is definitely on the table as is every other scenario. All you can go by are what the indices and models are showing. The cup is empty right now so pessimism is reigning and rightly so given what we've seen since nov 1st. Excitement will only lead to more letdowns by some here. Other than my daughter wondering where the snow is, I have enjoyed this run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 It's going to get cold. Awesome. For most sane people cold without snow sucks. Hopefully the pattern will result in a few storm chances. If you've read my posts I've been talking about a storm threat around D10 (MLK day) as a secondary push of cold air comes in. After that I think it's important to look at how the pattern gets cold. If it's a tanked -AO with a +PNA I fear the first week will be a bit dull. Fair enough. But that's the point..You've mentioned that MLK threat maybe in one post..but have dedicated many to how you think it will be cold and dry. All we are asking for is you to cut down on the constant worst case scenarios and offer up some more hopeful uplifting posts. Being gloomy is no way to go thru life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Unpleasant is constant negativity. honestly. Can't you just post some positive things at least occasionally or at least things that we might be able to look forward to going forward..instead of constant doom and gloom. It's unpleasant I think a pro met needs to evaluate what can go wrong before going gung ho on any specific forecast. There's plenty that can go wrong here but yes...it's definitely looking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Lol, love the whining about cold. If we had any snow everyone would be eating it up. Why the F do people enjoy the oppressive heat in summer but dislike the cold? That is true insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 It's going to get cold. Awesome. For most sane people cold without snow sucks. Hopefully the pattern will result in a few storm chances. If you've read my posts I've been talking about a storm threat around D10 (MLK day) as a secondary push of cold air comes in. After that I think it's important to look at how the pattern gets cold. If it's a tanked -AO with a +PNA I fear the first week will be a bit dull. I definitely could see it taking a little while to get the first decent chance of more siggy snow. I don't expect it to come rushing in with S+. Probably later in the month nar or after the 20th, but hopefully a light snow or two before it. I do see the MLK type deal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Makes a lot of sense, just look at all the snow we've had since 11/1....much more realistic to ask a pro on TV to lie to us to make us feel good. Dr. Phil is on at 3 in most markets, that's all good cheery stuff usually. I remember the days when these types of posts from you used to make me irate...now I just wave them off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roady Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 When the Tug Hill area is the ONLY place with snow in the NE, it becomes insanely dangerous for riding! Too many people on the trails, people not familar with the trails, and the trails end up getting beat up much quicker with the increased traffic. My favorite rides (used to, since I've moved from that area a bit) were during a day off work (Mon. or Tues. just after grooming) snowing at an inch/ hour, with no one else on the trails!! Perfect! Way too many uncaged rats on the hill for me. Kinda like the old wild west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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