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Next week's major storm and beyond


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  On 1/6/2012 at 7:18 PM, CT Blizz said:

Bare ground next week for Powderfreak before winter sets in for good?

bare ground when a bulletproof base gets hit by some cold rain? since when does NNE loose all the snowpack based on that?

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  On 1/6/2012 at 8:23 PM, messenger said:

In general about 45 days but most of the mets the last few....as they saw the pattern for what it is. Why do you think Will is so quiet? Nothing to talk about.

There;s stuff to talk about..like the different outcomes of what potentially may happen. And also, to put Kevin in check.

But I honestly do not see anything of interesting until at least the 16th and likely..beyond the 20th.

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  On 1/6/2012 at 8:34 PM, forkyfork said:

looks like a short duration event to me

36 hours or so. We're so used to these 3-9 day epic events lately that we've forgotten that the vast majority aren't that long. You can still pile up a great deal of snow in the exceedingly favorable conditions that the euro has.

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The warming at 50mb on the euro ensembles gets more and more impressive. I now see a +22C anomaly contour on the nw tip of Greenland. This was 18C a few days ago. This second wave will hopefully downwell and help give us some good blocking in February. Notice I said hopefully, because I couldn't say when..but I would think such a strong + anomaly like that will at least make its way down through conduction. Hopefully events like MT later in the month help out.

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  On 1/6/2012 at 8:50 PM, CoastalWx said:

The warming at 50mb on the euro ensembles gets more and more impressive. I now see a +22C anomaly contour on the nw tip of Greenland. This was 18C a few days ago. This second wave will hopefully downwell and help give us some good blocking in February. Notice I said hopefully, because I couldn't say when..but I would think such a strong + anomaly like that will at least make its way down through conduction. Hopefully events like MT later in the month help out.

We wouldn't expect you to say anything but hopefully, LOL. Seriously great job spelling everything out and glad you got to see some flakes.

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  On 1/6/2012 at 8:52 PM, Ginx said:

We wouldn't expect you to say anything but hopefully, LOL. Seriously great job spelling everything out and glad you got to see some flakes.

I don't have the skill to say when or where it downwells...just that it is nice to see. My guess is that it continues to do some damage.

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  On 1/6/2012 at 8:30 PM, CoastalWx said:

There;s stuff to talk about..like the different outcomes of what potentially may happen. And also, to put Kevin in check.

But I honestly do not see anything of interesting until at least the 16th and likely..beyond the 20th.

True but there's nothing defintive. I agree on the dates too. The only question left in my mind is...is this real or memorex? Are we going to go back to the same deal again at the end of the month.

Ack, bad taste... having just been down there at the memorial - a different picture would be more appropriate.

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  On 1/6/2012 at 8:55 PM, CoastalWx said:

I don't have the skill to say when or where it downwells...just that it is nice to see. My guess is that it continues to do some damage.

Here is a question, what year featured a snowless entire USA basically, heading into the second week of Jan. IDK, can not think of one.

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  On 1/6/2012 at 8:56 PM, messenger said:

True but there's nothing defintive. I agree on the dates too. The only question left in my mind is...is this real or memorex? Are we going to go back to the same deal again at the end of the month.

Ack, bad taste... having just been down there at the memorial - a different picture would be more appropriate.

Well that's in the eyes of the beholder. If you agree that we see changes and our chances of threats increase quite a bit, then I'd have to agree. If you expect Jan 2010 or 94 to come walking through that door....you may be set up to disappoint. Personally, I'm quite intrigued by this pattern. I thought the EC ensembles looked good. As far as details go, and to how long it lasts and where the gradient sets up..I don't know. It might not be perfect for us, but that pattern as depicted, offers a chance. That's about all you can say. It may be messy storms, or glorious SWFE and Miller B joys. We don't know, but I do know that I'd take what's shown over anything we've had right now for sure. The pattern as shown can deliver, but we've yet to see what will happen. If you approach it without getting into a frenzy, then you'll probably be ok.

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A sad story is this HS kid who seized while on the way up the chair and fell off and died. Since snow was only on the trail (I guess), he hit frozen bare ground for the most part. A normal snow year may have saved his life. Story was in the Globe today.

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  On 1/6/2012 at 3:39 PM, CoastalWx said:

I was responding to the comment of you saying we were not due for big clunkers. I think you used the 60s and the decadal regime as a reason why were aren't due for clunkers, but I didn't necessarily agree with that assessment. At least that's how I saw it.

We agree to disagree.

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  On 1/6/2012 at 3:44 PM, CoastalWx said:

The 50s were a -nao decadal regime with some crappy years too. I guess you responded to the terms "Clunkers" as if he expected many of them. I see what you mean now. We were due, but I do agree that the risk is more towards greater than normal snowfall vs less than normal snowfall over the next 10 years.

Ok, right.

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  On 1/6/2012 at 9:02 PM, CoastalWx said:

Pretty sure having 19% or whatever it is of total snowcover right now, is close to, if not a record.

Where did you find the 19%?

Here's some info on snowcover...

Source (and full table):

http://climate.rutge...ea.php?ui_set=1

Maybe the US deviation is muted by the large Canadian area, and this obviously does not reflect depth.

Some notables from N. American snow cover:

Dec 2011: 16.06 million km2

Dec 2010: 17.66 million km2

Dec 2006: 16.21 million km2

Dec 1993: 15.93 million km2

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  On 1/6/2012 at 4:52 PM, sbos_wx said:

Lol, love the whining about cold. If we had any snow everyone would be eating it up. Why the F do people enjoy the oppressive heat in summer but dislike the cold? That is true insanity.

I hate them both, provided there is no snow around during the cold.

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  On 1/6/2012 at 7:22 PM, CT Blizz said:

Just get us to Next Friday..One week from today and it's winter cold and we should be tracking snow event late that weekend.

One week..one week left in this hellacious period

Someone start a countdown to next Friday thread

Count down to what....cold and dry that week....

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