buckeyefan1 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 We can talk about the 18z, 384 gfs if you'd like. Unfortunately, that's all I got... That frame has rain for mby I'm still not worried. We were spoiled the last couple Winters. It's to be expected to be "let down" to an extent. Climo says Feb is SC's time. The last couple of winters have not erased the visions of almost a decade without snow that are still fresh in my head I didn't loose hope then and this rollercoaster winter.... I'm just enjoying the ride until March. I'll get my chance, and so will a lot of others.......no worries here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacoma Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 It's just the 5th, right? It wasn't "warm hanging on" when I had a high of 26 the other day either. haha you guys know what I mean about the warm winter we've had so far. yes it was a high here the other day of 24 but in winters past it stayed cold I don't mean 24 but always around 40 or at most 45 for a warm day, well this isn't your typical winter. guess i'm just frustrated and yes was spoiled the last two winters but those were winters like when I was growing up and I thought they were back for a while. I was hoping we were in about a 30 year cycle, back to the snowy winters. like the 50's , 60's, 70's and some 80,s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Well this coming up mild shot is really impressive. Local weather is calling for 60 tomorrow. We should be in the 40s at least. World news did a thing about the weather and how the whole country was way above normal and how Florida was colder than up in Minn. I quess at least we are not the only ones paying for this lack of cold and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnweathernut Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 you guys know what I mean about the warm winter we've had so far. yes it was a high here the other day of 24 but in winters past it stayed cold I don't mean 24 but always around 40 or at most 45 for a warm day, well this isn't your typical winter. guess i'm just frustrated and yes was spoiled the last two winters but those were winters like when I was growing up and I thought they were back for a while. I was hoping we were in about a 30 year cycle, back to the snowy winters. like the 50's , 60's, 70's and some 80,s yes, i know what you mean. I was just poking fun by picking out a statement of yours and twisting the context. I didn't mean any harm by it. Even if we are headed back into better winters, there will still be those winters that are going to be abnormally warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacoma Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 yes, i know what you mean. I was just poking fun by picking out a statement of yours and twisting the context. I didn't mean any harm by it. Even if we are headed back into better winters, there will still be those winters that are going to be abnormally warm. oh that's fine I knew what you meant, no harm taken, just frustrated. Your right you will always have some winters thrown in that will be much warmer than others even in a great cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacoma Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 this winter may still turn around so i will continue coming home everyday and looking at The Weather Forum to see if hopefully there is a SNOW STORM BREWING FOR THE SOUTHEAST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelJ Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 This winter is not over because the fat lady isn't singing. She is however spraying her throat for the SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POWERSTROKE Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 thanks for putting my head on the chopping block. What are friends for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoothillsNC Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 you guys know what I mean about the warm winter we've had so far. yes it was a high here the other day of 24 but in winters past it stayed cold I don't mean 24 but always around 40 or at most 45 for a warm day, well this isn't your typical winter. guess i'm just frustrated and yes was spoiled the last two winters but those were winters like when I was growing up and I thought they were back for a while. I was hoping we were in about a 30 year cycle, back to the snowy winters. like the 50's , 60's, 70's and some 80,s The last 2 winters were cold and snowy for some, esp. cold. But before that, the Winters around here were mild. I mean bbq in the backyard mild in Dec. and Jan., from roughly 2005 to early 2009. 2006 to 2008 was really hard for snow and cold lovers here, much warmer and drier than what we have now. Anyway, things are changing. The second half of Winter could make up for the rough first part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I remember at UT when everyone hated on Phil Fulmer for always going 10-2 and not being able to win the big one. Now, we are 5-7 and not bowling...and trying to convince ourselves that the new coach will be a winner. It's all in perspective. It will get cold and it's going to snow somewhere in the South. It's probably not going to be like last winter. But yes, there is cold on each of the major models. DT even hinted at more cold on his FB page. So, enjoy the warmth, the fact that it's not boiling like last summer, and know the best of winter is yet to arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacoma Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 The last 2 winters were cold and snowy for some, esp. cold. But before that, the Winters around here were mild. I mean bbq in the backyard mild in Dec. and Jan., from roughly 2005 to early 2009. 2006 to 2008 was really hard for snow and cold lovers here, much warmer and drier than what we have now. Anyway, things are changing. The second half of Winter could make up for the rough first part. Thanks Foothills, I always enjoy your post and you know I do believe like you say that the second half of winter will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POWERSTROKE Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 looking back at some of the best snows we plowed hey were later in the winter. , feb 27, 2004 march 1, 2009. We have had several in late January. I believe Jan 26, 1987. It seems to me the later it comes the bigger the amounts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 My thoughts on the pattern... http://northcarolina...oming-soon.html Basically it gets very complicated after the storm next Thursday and Friday Good thoughts. Hopefully, we'll see the cold lock in, coincident with some precipitation events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I remember at UT when everyone hated on Phil Fulmer for always going 10-2 and not being able to win the big one. Now, we are 5-7 and not bowling...and trying to convince ourselves that the new coach will be a winner. It's all in perspective. It will get cold and it's going to snow somewhere in the South. It's probably not going to be like last winter. But yes, there is cold on each of the major models. DT even hinted at more cold on his FB page. So, enjoy the warmth, the fact that it's not boiling like last summer, and know the best of winter is yet to arrive. I think we (yes, I'm a Vol fan) have a good coach now, if he is (hopefully) as good as his father, we're in business. It's a very young team, I think next year will be MUCH better.... oh yea, for snow too! Sorry, off-topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevo Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 It's just the 5th, right? It wasn't "warm hanging on" when I had a high of 26 the other day either. haha Yeah - the whole "warm won't leave" thing is a little unwarranted at this point. We're not even a month into winter, yet it seems like I've been hearing this mantra for ages now. It could "hang on" through the duration, but it is way too early to tell. Besides, there are thousands of us that would be completely happy with cold temps for a while to recharge from the ridiculous summers. This seems to fit more in the banter thread, so apologies.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Since Sept 1st, the AO has been positive an unthinkable 115 out of 127 days - or 91% of the time - and negative in only 4 days since Nov 18th Over the same period, the NAO has been positive 106 out of 127 days - or 83% of the time - and negative 0 days since Nov 18th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduwx Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Since Sept 1st, the AO has been positive an unthinkable 115 out of 127 days - or 91% of the time - and negative in only 4 days since Nov 18th Over the same period, the NAO has been positive 106 out of 127 days - or 83% of the time - and negative 0 days since Nov 18th That tells me we have to be due for some negatives in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Since Sept 1st, the AO has been positive an unthinkable 115 out of 127 days - or 91% of the time - and negative in only 4 days since Nov 18th Over the same period, the NAO has been positive 106 out of 127 days - or 83% of the time - and negative 0 days since Nov 18th Great stats to put into perspective at how impressive this pattern has been and how long these blocking patterns have been at this extreme plus side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoothillsNC Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 That tells me we have to be due for some negatives in there. True, most winters have a flip in there. Sometimes the timing coincides with seasons, sometimes not. But when it flips, its usually a hard flip. It would fit the past several years pattern to be a hard flip too. There's never any guarantees in Winter, but I've looked at many from front to end, and quite a few that had extremes, also had both ends of the extreme, esp. in a Nina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 what really is interesting to me, has there been a winter analog year where essentially the WHOLE lower 48 has been above normal temps at this point in winter? Much of the west has been either normal or below.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Much of the west has been either normal or below.. I think i read somewhere that they are in a major snow drought. A lot of the Ski resorts are horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bob Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I suppose nobody wants to hear the new Euro weeklies = rest of winter cancel.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Since Sept 1st, the AO has been positive an unthinkable 115 out of 127 days - or 91% of the time - and negative in only 4 days since Nov 18th Over the same period, the NAO has been positive 106 out of 127 days - or 83% of the time - and negative 0 days since Nov 18th So, for the record, here's the corresponding 500mb height anomaly map that I don't EVER want to see again, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduwx Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Looks like the 0z gfs is holding our bowling ball 500 low back in Tx. again. I'm out to 117 (1/10) and it's still in Tx. We have a kicker coming though. Another closed 500 low coming into Cali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarheelwx Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I think i read somewhere that they are in a major snow drought. A lot of the Ski resorts are horrible. skied Steamboat the week before Christmas and it was really bad by their standards. About 1/2 of normal. Lots of rocks, junk in the snow, and ICE! TW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I suppose nobody wants to hear the new Euro weeklies = rest of winter cancel.... Really...I thought people saying they were a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Looks like the 0z gfs is holding our bowling ball 500 low back in Tx. again. I'm out to 117 (1/10) and it's still in Tx. We have a kicker coming though. Another closed 500 low coming into Cali. Yeah, that thing in Cali is new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastonwxman Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Looks like both of those cut-offs strengthen up through 138 but the second one sort of parks itself just off the CA coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 skied Steamboat the week before Christmas and it was really bad by their standards. About 1/2 of normal. Lots of rocks, junk in the snow, and ICE! TW Ya i had a buddy go out to Colorado also and he said the same thing. Not very good conditions at all. Also has been on the news with such a horrible winter across all the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Looks like the 0z gfs is holding our bowling ball 500 low back in Tx. again. I'm out to 117 (1/10) and it's still in Tx. We have a kicker coming though. Another closed 500 low coming into Cali. Just ridiculous seeing 3 closed lows at 144. Got to bea record. The world is coming to an end. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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