Chris L Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Appox. 16-18" inches of snow fell... http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/akq/tsnow.html Case Study of it; Thunder snow analysis. http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/2001/30-Dec-00.html Max total was 30 inches in Eastern Sussex County, (maybe Ray can post the PNS)... http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/phi/122000storm/snowtotalbycounty.txt PNS from PHL. Perhaps someone could, again, maybe Ray, post the Upton PNS. Parts of Bergen County had 20-25". The snow rates, were a lot like the Boxing Day Blizzard, but Boxing Day was slower, by the H500 and H700 analysis, and the H500 trough was much deeper it; classic Miller A. DEC 30, would be classified as a Southern Miller B and far less intense vort maxes (vorticity) than DEC 27 2010. However, this storm, remains in my memory of waking up toward a whiteout that morning of DEC 30. Snow rates were 3" per hour for some time. The snow axis was the opposite of Boxing Day with NW-SE got the heaviest snows; it all fell in 8 to 12 (the heaviest part fell in 10 hours) hours, which makes it even more impressive; for some locations getting 20-24" of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 great, now every storm people want to remember is going to get a thread? i guess there is nothing else to do so why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 great, now every storm people want to remember is going to get a thread? i guess there is nothing else to do so why not I'll cry with laughter if someone makes a thread tomorrow for the New Years Eve event from a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I'll cry with laughter if someone makes a thread tomorrow for the New Years Eve event from a few years ago. why not, seriously, its either that, or talk about WOTY. ****ing pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 why not, seriously, its either that, or talk about WOTY. ****ing pattern. Or AG3's love for fishing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 What are your memories of the event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I'll cry with laughter if someone makes a thread tomorrow for the New Years Eve event from a few years ago. that guy was banned... I hate the name boxing day storm...If it's going to be called that it should be boxing day IV...I got over 13" from the 12/30/2000 storm...The models were showing a big storm in the long range for a week or so before it finally happened...December 2000 and 2010 are similar...A cold dry period with storms missing to the south...Then we get hit head on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 most of the people who post here were 5 or 6, so they probably remember none of it i got 28 inches in orange county, it ripped from beginning to end, but I never heard the thunder Parts of Jersey had the same, if earthlight was alive, he would have reported 40 inches, easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 that guy was banned... I hate the name boxing day storm...If it's going to be called that it should be boxing day IV...I got over 13" from the 12/30/2000 storm...The models were showing a big storm in the long range for a week or so before it finally happened...December 2000 and 2010 are similar...A cold dry period with storms missing to the south...Then we get hit head on... We got so lucky with that 12/30/00 event most people don't realize it, that month was extremely close to going snowless despite it was the coldest December in 20 years other than 1989 and 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 We got so lucky with that 12/30/00 event most people don't realize it, that month was extremely close to going snowless despite it was the coldest December in 20 years other than 1989 and 1995. that storm screwed SNE, it should get Hall of Fame status just for that, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 the models did a poor job with that storm... 7 days out, i believe the old MRF (now gfs) showed a phase with a southern system exiting offshore, resulting in a massive blizzard. then after the phase idea died, the models had trouble with the redeveloping system. the ETA (now nam) actually changed nyc over to rain and slammed DC. it was one of its infamous "too far west and warm" solutions... the AVN (now gfs) nailed the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 http://www.nws.noaa.gov/ost/eta.pdf all the details of the ETA here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 i also remember that storm starting out as a wall of heavy snow. thunder woke me up around 5 am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Horrendously modeled storm. S and W of Philly was set to get 8-12 the night before-verification was zero. We lucked out as it developed further N and E (as most of these do--see 3/6/01 for that!) otherwise, we would have mixed or changed over to rain for a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Horrendously modeled storm. S and W of Philly was set to get 8-12 the night before-verification was zero. We lucked out as it developed further N and E (as most of these do--see 3/6/01 for that!) otherwise, we would have mixed or changed over to rain for a time. 00/01 was infamous for storms coming north at the last minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 the models did a poor job with that storm... 7 days out, i believe the old MRF (now gfs) showed a phase with a southern system exiting offshore, resulting in a massive blizzard. then after the phase idea died, the models had trouble with the redeveloping system. the ETA (now nam) actually changed nyc over to rain and slammed DC. it was one of its infamous "too far west and warm" solutions... the AVN (now gfs) nailed the storm. It was the typical sparse data issue. The models incorrectly viewed the disturbance exiting Canada as a phaser, instead it moved too easterly and did not phase with the southern system but eventually itself helped cause the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 i took this picture of the WTC a few days after that storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 i also remember that storm starting out as a wall of heavy snow. thunder woke me up around 5 am Indeed. My father woke me up around 4 or 5 and he's like take a look outside. He said it went from nothing to heavy snow in minutes. I had checked the radar on TWC around 12 or so (I think) and I was worried sick because the radar showed almost nothing. The precip shield exploded very quickly with this storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Horrendously modeled storm. S and W of Philly was set to get 8-12 the night before-verification was zero. We lucked out as it developed further N and E (as most of these do--see 3/6/01 for that!) otherwise, we would have mixed or changed over to rain for a time. It was also the first foot of snow recorded in NYC since 96. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 It was also the first foot of snow recorded in NYC since 96. It may have been the first 6 inch storm too, I think the January 2000 storm was only 5.5 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 I'll never forget Paul Kocin's forecast for this one, areas of 12-24 for the metro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 that storm screwed SNE, it should get Hall of Fame status just for that, lol Not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 It may have been the first 6 inch storm too, I think the January 2000 storm was only 5.5 inches You're probably right. The January 2000 system had a dryslot from hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 anyone got a radar loop of this? Would be fascinating to see that western cutoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 You're probably right. The January 2000 system had a dryslot from hell. i went to bed that night giddy because of how obvious it was that it would be a big storm... then i woke up with heavy snow falling and paul kocin having us in the 12+ area. i then spent the next 4 hours walking around the county park in bayonne... about 3 hours into it the snow stopped and i was wondering why there was freezing drizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 i took this picture of the WTC a few days after that storm Incredible picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 anyone got a radar loop of this? Would be fascinating to see that western cutoff give me a few days and i can make one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 anyone got a radar loop of this? Would be fascinating to see that western cutoff http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/current/mcview.phtml?prod=usrad&java=script&mode=archive&frames=30&interval=30&year=2000&month=12&day=30&hour=9&minute=25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Not me. your on the edge of SNE, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 your on the edge of SNE, lol Lol, well, I'm like 40 miles from the NY/CT border but I am in Danbury a lot since I go to school there. I guess that's why I sort of waffle between sub-forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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