rochesterdave Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Excellent! For those that have followed LES long enough, those subtleties are important to "probe" the environment. Another tool is to check out the Canadian radars...and not just King City....but the ones to the north...if there are ANY echoes propogating, it means there is moisture in "them there" Arctic airmassses....which is gasoline for warm lakes.... thank you, King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 i'm not sure which i like better. not sure what the difference is, i always thaught it picked up the low clouds on this mode. they seem to be the only people in the NWS org. that use it. it does help to show the streamers originating. Essentially, the clear air mode (especially in arctic air masses) will detect cloud seeding elements (ambient ice crystals) necessary for condensation to take place. It is a great sign to see ANY echoes (in clear air mode) behind an arctic front, as the air mass is usually bone dry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 But they have...4-7 in the storm earlier this year...Lockport n NT got 5-6 inches, I got 5 as well. NWS predicted a trace from Buffalo North for last nights LES, as the MET on the WIVB Blog pointed out, only us southtowners got Screwed last night not you! Okay richard. if you want to think this hasnt been the most off year for predicting lake effect in a long time then go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixny Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Hitting the hay. I will try and troll less and post more with snowfall totals and any other cool weather phenomena. 3.5" in Phoenix. Flurries at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 YESS. starting to come down hard! getting amped for this event. I don't mean this to be in bold. can't figure out how to get back to normal mode. it just keeps reverting to bold. seriously, i'm not joking. i can turn it off for a minute but anytime i use the back button it returns. rrrrrr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Looks like the northern end of that band is dying out and looks like itll miss the metro area to the south and east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Deltat13 they took the radar off clear air mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathstar9 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 3.5" here as of a few minutes ago.... Man you guys are kicking ass up there. I am 4 miles SE of you off old liverpool rd, not far from the mall and have 1.5". Although its starting to come down at a moderate clip now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatenWx Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I'll be happy to see the flurries and a possible snowshower the nhc is forcastibg for tommorrow here. Also I didn't get to say thanks for the link before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 albany update CANCELLED THE LAKE EFFECT SNOWWARNING AND ADVISORY FOR THESOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS AREA. KEEPING THE WARNING AND ADVISORY FOR SOUTHERN HERKIMER AND NORTHERN FULTON COUNTIES. THE WIND SHIFT TO NORTHWEST IS HEADING EAST AS IS THE DEEPER COLD AIR. THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS SHOULD BECOME MORE ORGANIZED LATER TONIGHT ONCE THE BOUNDARY LAYER COOLS. HOWEVER LAKE EFFECT SNOWS COULD TREND TO MORE MULTI BANDS AS FLOW TURNS MORE NORTHWEST. SO...AGAIN... KEEPING HEADLINES IN SOUTHERN HERKIMER AND NORTHERN FULTON. CLOUD COVER AND STEADY WINDS SHOULD PREVENT TEMPERATURES FROM DROPPING AS MUCH AS THEY COULD...BUT CURRENT FORECAST MATCHES WITH CURRENT OBSERVATIONS AND TRENDS. SO ONLY MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO GRIDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Don't really like when KBUF keeps revising their snow amounts downward for each warning update...ugh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 what a bust for the Tug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snagger Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Heres a picture I took today at Sandy pond in northern Oswego county of a cell moving in, got pelted with about 2 minutes of graupel right after this pic was taken..Received about 3 1/2 inches in Altmar from those broken up cells, no real banding took place, is that from the strong winds and very warm lake?. This event reminded me of late October. Just wondering, thanks guys. This mornings off and on whiteouts..More graupel than snow today in Altmar. Drove to the Salmon River Reservoir, they had about 5 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathstar9 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 We got lucky IMBY for a few hrs as the sort of single band with Huron connection held tough. Just flurries attm. Was a decent band of snow...extends all the way to where I used to live in Clifton Park and on towards VT. Nice, hopefully we all cash in some more later tonight when the winds shift. Want to get some use out of my new back country skiis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Slick Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Bust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 18z wrf looks nice for BUF. Has between .10 and .20" of QPF with this band that will move through here in a little bit. With snow ratios right now between 20:1 - 30:1 we could see a quick 2 or 3 inches. Maybe I'm being hopeful. It also looks nice for Wednesday with some synoptic snow behind enhanced by a SW flow off Erie. About .25" of QPF from that but snow ratios won't be as high as they are now. Maybe 15:1.. So if everything can pan out right and thats a big IF maybe the metro could squeeze out close to 6 inches by Thursday. I sureee hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Justin!!! I see you lurking on here! What's up? when you coming back to OP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 18z wrf looks nice for BUF. Has between .10 and .20" of QPF with this band that will move through here in a little bit. With snow ratios right now between 20:1 - 30:1 we could see a quick 2 or 3 inches. Maybe I'm being hopeful. It also looks nice for Wednesday with some synoptic snow behind enhanced by a SW flow off Erie. About .25" of QPF from that but snow ratios won't be as high as they are now. Maybe 15:1.. So if everything can pan out right and thats a big IF maybe the metro could squeeze out close to 6 inches by Thursday. I sureee hope so. too much shear on Wednesday.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 too much shear on Wednesday.. It's always one thing or another. Seriously Ayuud move to the southerntier so we can get our snow up here in the metro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 It's always one thing or another. Seriously Ayuud move to the southerntier so we can get our snow up here in the metro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 It's always one thing or another. Seriously Ayuud move to the southerntier so we can get our snow up here in the metro! no!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Youve already had like 9 inches this season. And a 5 inch event in like a 6 hour period so you have nothing to complain about Getting ready for that band to move in here. Hopefully it can slow its roll and sit over me for an hour or 2. Prob not though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Youve already had like 9 inches this season. And a 5 inch event in like a 6 hour period so you have nothing to complain about Getting ready for that band to move in here. Hopefully it can slow its roll and sit over me for an hour or 2. Prob not though. prolly 15 min max i think,it's moving fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 prolly 15 min max i think,it's moving fast. Sure is Just hope we can get into some of those skinny bands I think that may set up along the whole south shore of Ontario once this band goes through. I swear id be happy with 2 or 3 inches overnight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Youve already had like 9 inches this season. And a 5 inch event in like a 6 hour period so you have nothing to complain about Getting ready for that band to move in here. Hopefully it can slow its roll and sit over me for an hour or 2. Prob not though. New WRF is out. If this varifies you'll get 6 inches overnight...Shows .5 QPF smack dab over airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 New WRF is out. If this varifies you'll get 6 inches overnight...Shows .5 QPF smack dab over airport. Haha this runs on crack. I'll prob get an inch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Sure is Just hope we can get into some of those skinny bands I think that may set up along the whole south shore of Ontario once this band goes through. I swear id be happy with 2 or 3 inches overnight! at least they bumped up snowfall forecast for tonight from 1-2 to 1-3" .OVERNIGHT...LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS AND BLOWING SNOW. SNOW MAYBE HEAVY AT TIMES. ADDITIONAL ACCUMULATION 1 TO 3 INCHES IN THE MOST PERSISTENT SNOWS NORTHEAST OF BUFFALO...WITH LOCALIZED AMOUNTS OF UP TO 4 INCHES POSSIBLE NEAR CLARENCE AND AKRON. LOWS AROUND 10 ABOVE. NORTHWEST WINDS 10 TO 15 MPH. CHANCE OF SNOW 90 PERCENT. .TUESDAY...LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS LIKELY IN THE MORNING...THEN A CHANCE OF SNOW SHOWERS IN THE AFTERNOON. ADDITIONAL ACCUMULATION 1 TO 2 INCHES. COLD WITH HIGHS 10 TO 15. NORTH WINDS 10 TO 15 MPH...BECOMING NORTHWEST. CHANCE OF SNOW 60 PERCENT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 at least they bumped up snowfall forecast for tonight from 1-2 to 1-3" Wow we're pothetic here this year lol. Last year 4 inches wouldnt even get me off my chair to look outside and this year I'm recording a heavy snow shower with 1 inch on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Latest Totals: LOCATION STORM TOTAL TIME/DATE COMMENTS SNOWFALL OF /INCHES/ MEASUREMENT NEW YORK ...CATTARAUGUS COUNTY... 2 E CATTARAUGUS 15.0 515 PM 1/02 PUBLIC CATTARAUGUS 12.5 515 PM 1/02 PUBLIC SOUTH DAYTON 10.5 330 PM 1/02 TRAINED SPOTTER NEW ALBION 10.0 440 PM 1/02 TRAINED SPOTTER ...CHAUTAUQUA COUNTY... FREWSBURG 12.0 330 PM 1/02 TRAINED SPOTTER CASSADAGA 8.0 330 PM 1/02 TRAINED SPOTTER DEWITTVILLE 5.0 330 PM 1/02 TRAINED SPOTTER ...OSWEGO COUNTY... LACONA 8.0 300 PM 1/02 TRAINED SPOTTER I love how C from P encourages snowfall in Jamestown that has 0 ski resorts and his "parents" live there. Yet doesn't want it at his house. Makes a lot of sense...Guy is hilarious...I belong to quite a few blogs, and he is the biggest troll I have ever witnessed. LeeLee pointed out that Pizza thing, I didn't realize that. Stinking Hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Heavy snow has begun. GREAT flake size. Will prob be over within 15 min though Hahahaha well that lasted all of 2 and a half minutes. Flurries now. Wow. We just keep getting screwed up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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