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Early Jan cold and/or snow threat


Cheeznado

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Let's be clear. The Bears were right about Dec. Now, moving onto January: The Bears will probably be right again. I'm not saying blowtorch like Dec. Normal temps is my Jan forecast. No, that's not a cop-out. Let's break it down.

Sherman's stratospheric march to the pole continues. Some years it never matters, but let's give it the benefit of the doubt since the MJO/GWO should go into phases more friendly for Southeast cold. However the stratospheric warming is trying to wrap around from Asia into Alaska. That would be great for a +PNA, iff the warming gets down to 500mb. Good stuff if you like cold and sunny northwest flow. Occasional real snow for the ski areas and plenty of snow making. OK the ensembles want to block up Greenland more. However the ensembles open the door for a trough out West. Great -AO for the Northeast while the Southeast ridge holds. Either way the Southeast is missing an ingredient. Don't bank on the AO alone based on last years record low values. As the Israelis say, don't get caught fighting the last war. Snow lovers might root for the ensembles as the best chance for more southern stream lows ejecting out of Texas. However the marginal cold game would continue, with only slightly better results only because normals are colder.

Bottom line: I'm looking for a variable pattern. Cold next week. Mild the following week or two (more likely two). The West and even Plains may get cold right after Martin Luther King Day. The Southeast will need to wait until the end of Jan. The math, if my forecast is right, points to just normal temperatures on average for the month of Jan. Risk is to the warm side.

Well said.

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http://www.examiner....hreat-next-week

I did write an update on the potential this morning. If there is something to follow I will update as often as you can.

Many thanks. Enjoyable read! T

Brick, if its frozen....technically,literally and scientifically...it is a solid.....Trust me! I'm a science teacher.

It's thick as a brick :)

That made me laugh out loud.....fantastic.

+1 :) T

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GFS hasn't been as far south with the cold shot though

Yeah I know, it's actually been getting better.. but still. The Euro wasn't even as deep last run sadly. I'm waiting for the next frames of this energy coming down to see if it sparks anything before we lose the cold.

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Yes we have a coastal developing system around the NC/SC border and possibly without looking at soundings.. snow towards the coasts. Not much, but a much better solution than it's been showing in this time-frame. (:

Just looking at the surface def. snow for many in the eastern corridor...however verbatim sfc temps are probably above freezing for the heart...but you know days away probably will get better blah blah blah.

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Imo we need the trough to be set up a little further to the west. Since it is so far to the east, by the time the trough goes negative it is off the coast. Hopefully things will change but right now this is looking like a fish storm to me. Another concern is 2m temps are really shooting up by the time the moisture arrives. Not trying to be a Debbie downer here, this is just my opinion.

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I could get a little more excited about the second wave if it had a little more cold air to work with. A retreating surface high off the NE coast is not usually a good thing. Otherwise I like what the GFS is signaling with respects to the s/w dropping down the backside of the trough and trying to possibly close it off in the SE.

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The trend looks good, though. Just need it to go a little more west.

Here we go...

That would just mean the same amount of snow for someone else in NC....to start, how about a stronger low by about 16mb??

Edit: looks like me and Shawn took the bait.

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Here we go...

That would just mean the same amount of snow for someone else in NC....to start, how about a stronger low by about 16mb??

Edit: looks like me and Shawn took the bait.

Haha, definitely need a stronger wave that moves just a bit faster and hopefully does come a bit West to really create something worth much.

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Imo we need the trough to be set up a little further to the west. Since it is so far to the east, by the time the trough goes negative it is off the coast. Hopefully things will change but right now this is looking like a fish storm to me. Another concern is 2m temps are really shooting up by the time the moisture arrives. Not trying to be a Debbie downer here, this is just my opinion.

Yep. The western ridge is too far east and the SW doesn't dig enough to pop a storm closer to the coast. Since we're missing one of my favorite Winter storm elements, a strong High to the N or NW, we need the storm to bomb off the coast so it can pull cold into the area. It doesn't look like that is likely to happen at the moment.

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All I have access to is the E-Wall and The Black and White charts and they haven't updated on my end. Are you using a free service for these maps.. or are yours from last nights run?

Also it takes awhile to update but this is a great site for the GGEM maps in color.

http://meteocentre.com/models/explorateur.php?lang=en&map=na&run=12&mod=gemglb&stn=PNMPR&hh=000&comp=1&run2=12&mod2=gemglb&stn2=PNMPR&hh2=144&fixhh=1

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All I have access to is the E-Wall and The Black and White charts and they haven't updated on my end. Are you using a free service for these maps.. or are yours from last nights run?

I'm using the b/w charts from Environment Canada. The 12Z maps are updated through day 5. Waiting for day 6.

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