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2012 Winter Banter Thread


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yes, February 6, 2010 came insanely close from being an NESIS 5 blizzard. it was RIGHT THERE/

That snow/dry line was one of the most frustrating I've ever witnessed. I wonder how far back you have to go to find a storm that gave Philly up to 2 feet and Central Park a trace. You could practically throw a stone off the beach on Long Island's south shore and double what snow the shore had. I had about 2", Staten Island had 7-8", and the Bronx nothing. A mega band was parked just south of me, 15 miles or less for hours on end and didn't move. The confluence that killed the storm for us was just incredible.

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That snow/dry line was one of the most frustrating I've ever witnessed. I wonder how far back you have to go to find a storm that gave Philly up to 2 feet and Central Park a trace.

There aren't any...at least on record...but the storm you cite did revive memories of the Feb 1989 one that gave Atlantic City 20 inches and NYC zip...

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Our Alberta Clipper, Saskatchewan Screamer, or Manitoba Mauler...think it's the 1st considering point of origin...seems to run into difficulty when reaching the Blue Ridge mountains at hour 84 on the latest NAM.....

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Definitley saw snowflakes over here but zero accumulation...not even on my deck...which is usually 1st to whiten...

I remember reading your obs the following morning and feeling disappointed I didnt see any flakes out here as we usually see similar conditions...but of course still felt pretty optimistic we would make up for it in the coming months. Didnt think we'd be sitting here nearly 90 days later still waiting for our first flakes! Painful.

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I remember reading your obs the following morning and feeling disappointed I didnt see any flakes out here as we usually see similar conditions...but of course still felt pretty optimistic we would make up for it in the coming months. Didnt think we'd be sitting here nearly 90 days later still waiting for our first flakes! Painful.

You did not miss much...most of the time rain mixed in...you should fill out an application to join my winter weather clique...must be a resident of Nassau or Suffolk...membership is currently zero...but you have to start somewhere...

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You did not miss much...most of the time rain mixed in...you should fill out an application to join my winter weather clique...must be a resident of Nassau or Suffolk...membership is currently zero...but you have to start somewhere...

Im willing to apply..the exclusivity of the club sounds intriguing.

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It is a veritable "Army of One"....

In retrospect, the Season 3 finale of the Sopranos was *precisely* where the show started to go downhill...

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In retrospect, the Season 3 finale of the Sopranos was *precisely* where the show started to go downhill...

In all candor, I thoroughly enjoyed Season 3. It started very weakly with the surveillance episode, but gradually improved with Livia's wake in #302. The flashback to 1970 when Johnny Boy and Junior cut off Mr. Satriale's finger was brilliant. Then we had the drama of Melfi's assault. The episode where Old Man Baccala performed his final hit was wonderful, prompting my late father to call Burt Young's performance one of the best acting jobs he had ever seen on television. I found the Meadow / Noah thing to be moderately entertaining, but it was the arrival of Gloria half way through the season that solidified this as a memorable block of episodes. Her acting and the writing for her plotlines was sensational. Then we had the very enjoyable Pine Barrens episode and a good shootout at the poker game where Jackie Jr. tries to be a real gangster. I did not even mention Carmella's compelling scene with the no nonsense psychiatrist who told her to get the hell away from Tony or Tony's hilarious effort to make a soldier out of his idiot son in the so - so finale. All in all, season 3 was 10 times better than season 4.

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A quote i remember from Tony - "a wrong decision is better than indecision". Maybe this is where some of the ill fated cold / stormy forecasts Snow88 often references are based on

"I don know what yure TAWKIN' about."

...Livia

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haha that was awesome dude.

On an ending note, Al Gore did not decide one day to get rich off of climate change.

Once again, William, reading is fundamental. Al Gore donated all proceeds from his movies and books on climate change to non-profit organizations.

http://www.examiner....ds-to-own-group

And yes, you are right, normal people who care about the environment want the UN to rule the country. Further, schools teach the stories and beliefs of the greeks, romans, chinese, native americans, etc, and treat them as past nonsense, so teaching Christianity, Judaism and everything else would be no different.

A class on "Religion" is 100% fine. Reading and teaching the bible as history and truth is NOT ok. Everything is not black and white.

If Al Gore was alive today and read some of the banality in this thread, he'd be spinning in his grave wishing he'd never invented the interwebz.

When is it going to snow?

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If Bill Maher were alive today, he'd wish he never invented Al Gore.

Its raining.

Happy Birthday William! Today is my son's birthday too. He is in good company.

Ed

Much appreciated, pal...my best to your son...here's to a good year...nonwithstanding the hardly proficuous start....

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There is definitely no argument that the pattern is changing and will have changed by Day 10. But the orientation of the highly anomalous features is extremely unfavorable for our forecast area. The ridge which was modeled a week or so ago to be forming over the Aleutians is now forecast to form well west of there. We now have a highly anomalous trough forecast from British Columbia towards Southern Alaska and the Aleutian Islands. We've got much more room for a northwest Atlantic/East Coast ridge in this type of setup.

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The snow gods certainly don't owe us much this year, but we are way overdue for a bitterly cold winter. We've had a few colder than normal winters on average over the last decade, but nothing major in the way of arctic outbreaks since January 2004, and before that in 1994. Prior to that they were much more common, even during the relatively snowless 70s and 80s. That's what we are overdue for and it clearly isn't going to be this winter. As contradictory as it sounds, it is "normal" to have extended periods of extreme cold from time to time and this plays an important role in the life cycles of many native plant and animal species.

The one thing I hope I never have to experience is a run of winters like during the first half of the 1950s. Warm and snowless. At least 4 winters in a row marginally better (if at all) than 2001-02. Absolutely ghastly.

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Flip flop ...no torch now on 0Z GFS. much colder next week...Btw exactly as Joe B thought it would do

It will be colder after this storm till about 120 hours out at which time it will start to warm up again until after the next rainstorm. At which time another cold snap will come in with the potential for a light snow event (if the ECM light snow event is to be believed) which lasts till about 216 + hours out..before a blow torch arrives...

00z GFS also agrees on this scenario as well..

No pattern change as it continues to just be transitional cold shots followed by moderation...

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