MJO812 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 YOU MEAN THE SAME PATTERN WE'VE HAD SINCE NOVEMBER THAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN TRYING TO WISHCAST AWAY? YES MR. FORK. WHAT WAS YOUR PREDICTIONS FOR THE WINTER BACK IN NOVEMBER? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Already up to 50F here in New Brunswick. Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof09 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 how can we say farewell to a winter that never arrived? It did in october lol how about " stay away winter see you in 2012-13 party"? Or what else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Nzucker can start planting his garden very soon, if the 12z GFS is correct. Record breaking warmth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 JB just tweeted a new stratospheric warming event will take place. Oh gosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 JB just tweeted a new stratospheric warming event will take place. Oh gosh. JB strat warm blooms Dec 15-Jan 5, sets up cold coming, but backed away ( so US warms Jan 20-30) new one starting now! Did post on WxBell on this. Center or warming over the pole or into Greenland leads to coldest US temps 2-3 weeks later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternsnowman Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 12z GFS doesn't even have the AO going negative anymore. It shows a - PNA, + AO, + NAO and + EPO. The ensembles agree. I t will change again next time, all the models are waffling it seems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 MINOR CHANGES MADE TO THE TEMP/DEW POINTS BASED ON LATEST TRENDS. TEMPERATURES HAVE WARMED QUICKLY AND HAVE SURPASSED ORIGINAL HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST. THEREFORE...UPDATED THE HIGH TEMPS FOR THE DAY BY A FEW DEGREES...MIDDLE TO UPPER 40S. Torch today out there-check this out from upton-the warmth busts even warmer! What's sad is that they DIDN'T have that in their original forecast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 It's already 45 here. My forecasted high was supposed to be 42. Wouldn't be shocked to hit 50. Who in their right mind would have ONLY forecasted 42 for you? I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 JB just tweeted a new stratospheric warming event will take place. Oh gosh. I have a feeling this new one will be centered right over State College (or did he move to NYC for WeatherBell?) when the one he's predicting doesn't pan out and he detonates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I have a feeling this new one will be centered right over State College (or did he move to NYC for WeatherBell?) when the one he's predicting doesn't pan out and he detonates. LOL-JB's still trying to deliver the goods for the weenies.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 LOL-JB's still trying to deliver the goods for the weenies.... Exact same story as the 2001-02 winter. I can officially say I for the first time feel we have a repeat of that winter on our hands. No snow, above normal temperatures and JB promising a winter wonderland is still on it's way in the long range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Exact same story as the 2001-02 winter. I can officially say I for the first ime feel we have a repeat of that winter on our hands. No snow, above normal temperatures and JB promising a winter wonderland is still on it's way in the long range. There are definitely some similarities though on a smaller scale. That winter the persistent lack of buckling to the jet, a small PV and PV which sat way too far north were a major problem, thats a very apparent issue this winter as well overall. However, the setup across the Pac/Western U.S. is markedly different and we are going to average much cooler in January than we did that year I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 There are definitely some similarities though on a smaller scale. That winter the persistent lack of buckling to the jet, a small PV and PV which sat way too far north were a major problem, thats a very apparent issue this winter as well overall. However, the setup across the Pac/Western U.S. is markedly different and we are going to average much cooler in January than we did that year I believe. Semantics. Lol. You are correct though I do remember all of that all too well. The benefit of a winter like that in 2001-02 was it allowed the WTC clean-up effort to do what it had to do with little interfence from the weather. I fail to see such a benefit for this winter. Figures this crappy winter is happening on the 10 year anniversary of the 01-02 winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Semantics. Lol. You are correct though I do remember all of that all too well. The benefit of a winter like that in 2001-02 was it allowed the WTC clean-up effort to do what it had to do with little interfence from the weather. I fail to see such a benefit for this winter. Figures this crappy winter is happening on the 10 year anniversary of the 01-02 winter. The scary thing is how crappy patterns just seem to produce progressively milder and milder winters as time goes on. Similar bad patterns in the 60s or 70s produced mild but not top 10 warmest months, it seems now a bad pattern in 2012 produces a month 2 degrees warmer than the same pattern would have produced in 1987. Not necessarily a solid indicator of global warming because its over a relatively small sample size when you consider how long the planet has existed but its hard to argue totally against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 The scary thing is how crappy patterns just seem to produce progressively milder and milder winters as time goes on. Similar bad patterns in the 60s or 70s produced mild but not top 10 warmest months, it seems now a bad pattern in 2012 produces a month 2 degrees warmer than the same pattern would have produced in 1987. Not necessarily a solid indicator of global warming because its over a relatively small sample size when you consider how long the planet has existed but its hard to argue totally against it. The thought of it actually sickens me. Frustrating beyond belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 DT just said on Facebook that thd Euro looks really cold. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof09 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 This is why i dont like this whole global warming craze right now. If you think about how long the earth has existed and how long we've been around and produced pollution you think we've really destroyed the atmosphere to warrant this kind of attention? I think not and the earth goes through periods of climate cooling and warming so i dont know if its even possible for us to be causing this warming stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderdude Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I am against the whole global warming theory. Earth usually goes through cycles of warming and cooling. The global warming thing is used as political theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 DT just said on Facebook that thd Euro looks really cold. lol. LOL, I saw that, and LC came firing right back with a more or less "What in the hell model are you lookinf at?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Epic battle going on between DT and LC. DT says that even though the temps on the euro are warm , the pattern is a cold one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 The euro looked cold for a day before it torched again, lolz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof09 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Epic battle going on between DT and LC. DT says that even though the temps on the euro are warm , the pattern is a cold one. Sounds more like DT is wishcasting than forecasting if hes saying the opposite what the model shows lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Actually it's more between LC and DT's groupies. People who have no clue about weather going after an esteemed meteorologist because he disagrees with DT? Epic battle going on between DT and LC. DT says that even though the temps on the euro are warm , the pattern is a cold one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 at least the G Men v Packers game will look like a playoff game in GB. lower 20's with fresh snow along the sidelines.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Long range gfs and euro are horrific. Cold or NOT, the pattern will remain absolutely and positively horrific for accumulating snow. This is an awful winter but i dont find myself all that mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I am against the whole global warming theory. Earth usually goes through cycles of warming and cooling. The global warming thing is used as political theme. Agreed. Humans are peons compared to Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I believe some locations on Long Island (but not official reporting stations) have not seen a snowflake since last winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I am against the whole global warming theory. Earth usually goes through cycles of warming and cooling. The global warming thing is used as political theme. Thats bull****. The anti-global warming campaign is the biggest political theme and an attempt by the right wing to push back at the "liberal" (rational/realistic) movement to protect the environment. Right wing hates any limit on their ability to live as they want to, semi-automatic guns, massive pollution, etc...Except when it comes to things they do not want to do, such as abortions and drugs, that they try and control. The hypocrisy is insane. Drill baby drill! Sure, the earth has gone through periodic warming and cooling cycles, but the correlation between the recent spike in CO2 emmisions, the correllated increase in the global CO2 readings and the global temperature increase is statistically significant. Any rational, clear headed individual without a motive or an ideology can look at the facts and see the truth. If A then B. If B then C. Then, if A, then C. But the right wingers love to say, but wait, just because A then B, and B then C, there's no proof that A-->C. Maybe something else has caused C...yes maybe something else has contributed, BUT if A causes B, and B causes C, then it is indisputed that A in some effect causes C. Any other conclusion goes against the simplest logical analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Agreed. Humans are peons compared to Earth. but to think we have not contributed and thus increasing Earths natural warming cycle is very ignorant.. thunderdude is obv half a tard if he thinks its just political propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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