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2012 Winter Banter Thread


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I skied at Camelback a few days ago and it was atrocious. We went for the night and by 7pm all of the fake-crap snow turned into a sheet of ice because of some melting during the day.

Gotta make the trip up to Stratton later this month.

:bag: eek!

i hope you didnt pay much. a friend of mine runs a ski club at blue mountain and asked if i wanted to come one day but i refuse to ice skate down the slopes, even though it would be free. maybe im a stuck up powder hound, but east coast skiing during a winter like this.....forget it.

and the fact jaypeak is still charging full day rate of $75 with less than half the mountain open on horrendous conditions, they should be ashamed of themselves. although i know they can do it cuz people still go cuz frankly, your avg skiier is clueless.

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I agree, never said otherwise. West coast skiers who come east fail miserably because they dont know how to use edges and aren't used to the tight off piste trails.

why would they come east? No one in their right mind living west of the Mississippi comes to the East coast to ski...if they're going to ski, it's in the west.....they laugh at what we call skiing here....

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Sugarbush;s north mountain slopes has some tricky moguls and sick woods, when there is snow though

I've pretty much explored most of it...it's such a diverse mountain as far as trails. I skied last year in April and it was beautiful powder still. It was 60 F but remained amazing with all of the pack from the epic winter.

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The only time I ever skied was in Colorado. I remember people thinking I was crazy for not starting somewhere easier first. However I really had no problems and didn't fall once...actually I did fall but it was getting off the damn lift not while I was actually going downhill

I agree, never said otherwise. West coast skiers who come east fail miserably because they dont know how to use edges and aren't used to the tight off piste trails.

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why would they come east? No one in their right mind living west of the Mississippi comes to the East coast to ski...if they're going to ski, it's in the west.....they laugh at what we call skiing here....

another common misconception. Plenty of people out west come east to test their skills see some of our off piste terrain.

And there is nothing laughable about east coast skiing unless you ski what you do which is bunny trails and rope tow.

Go up to the real mountains and get off trail like at Stowe where there is no OB and its a whole different world.

In fact, there was an article done several years ago in one of the ski magazines comparing east coast to west coast and the comparison was favorable to the east, other than the obvious lower snow totals in some places and the shorter season, but this year, no one is skiing across the country anywhere.

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though i agree skiing on the EC is hard, i wouldnt exactly say its more difficult than out west. its just different....skiing in waist deep powder is actually ALOT harder than skiing down a groomed EC slope.

I was out in snowbird/alta a couple years ago during a 3 day 40" snowfall.....and one days worth of skiing felt like 5 days back east. such a harder workout per day. EC skiiers used to the groom slopes would throw in the towel after day1 and hop on the next flight back home.

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though i agree skiing on the EC is hard, i wouldnt exactly say its more difficult than out west. its just different....skiing in waist deep powder is actually ALOT harder than skiing down a groomed EC slope.

I was out in snowbird/alta a couple years ago during a 3 day 40" snowfall.....and one days worth of skiing felt like 5 days back east. such a harder workout per day. EC skiiers used to the groom slopes would throw in the towel after day1 and hop on the next flight back home.

I don't ski groomers for this reason, no challenge. Off piste trees only.

Powder skiing is a great cardio workout, fantastic!

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I don't ski groomers for this reason, no challenge. Off piste trees only.

Powder skiing is a great cardio workout, fantastic!

for sure....

if i cant get up to jaypeak after good storms, one of the hidden gems is platekill in the catskills. they are only open on the weekends but do open weekdays but only for powder days which is usually the day after an 8" or more snowfall. its a tiny mountain with not much vertical but nothing is groomed up top during these powder days. usually, there is hardly anyone on the mtn besides a few locals.

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for sure....

if i cant get up to jaypeak after good storms, one of the hidden gems is platekill in the catskills. they are only open on the weekends but do open weekdays but only for powder days which is usually the day after an 8" or more snowfall. its a tiny mountain with not much vertical but nothing is groomed up top during these powder days. usually, there is hardly anyone on the mtn besides a few locals.

i know platekill, they get a lot of snow from lake effect and have the best elevation in the catskills. Old School for sure.

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In VT, Stowe and Sugarbush are great mountains. In NY, Gore and Whiteface are also very good.

Sorry to say but Gore is overrated. Trails are pretty easy and the snow quality is mediocre. Also, usually extremely crowded. Best thing about Gore is looking north and seeing Whiteface in the distance...

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i know platekill, they get a lot of snow from lake effect and have the best elevation in the catskills. Old School for sure.

yea if you know plat then your deff a fresh tracks hound.

and now that i moved up here, its a quick 1hr ride. i dont have to get up at 430am anymore to try to get there for first tracks. but of course, first year im up here....theres no point in going.

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No one posted the 18z DGEX in the Banter Thread? It shows a nice storm for the area in the 15th-17th timeframe. It looks to come in two parts, with the second one being colder than the first part.

850s and Surface Temperatures are cold enough for the northern half of NJ, but the thicknesses are at 546, which is marginal, at best for snow. Could this be IP or ZR?

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The second wave is colder at the 1000-500 mb thicknesses, and would likely support snow.

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No one posted the 18z DGEX in the Banter Thread? It shows a nice storm for the area in the 15th-17th timeframe. It looks to come in two parts, with the second one being colder than the first part.

850s and Surface Temperatures are cold enough for the northern half of NJ, but the thicknesses are at 546, which is marginal, at best for snow. Could this be IP or ZR?

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The second wave is colder at the 1000-500 mb thicknesses, and would likely support snow.

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I was about to post it. It shows the 2 low solution that a lot of people doubted on the 12Z GFS. Very tight gradient on the 850 mb temps, just 10-50 miles north of the 0 degree line is the -2 degree line.

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