MJO812 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 12z GGEM also develops the 1st storm. http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/data/model_forecast/236_100.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 12z GGEM also develops the 1st storm. http://www.weatherof...ast/236_100.gif That looks like rain also, like the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Thats because the GFS cuts off the 500 low near Texas and it pumps up the se ridge and kills all hope of cold and snow. GFS is the only model that has this, as of now. I take it you did not see last nights European computer run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 That looks like rain also, like the GFS. It's close though. Lets see what it shows for next week's storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 hopefully we mix well and hit 55 At this point I don't mind it. I've pretty much given up on seeing snow so if it happens, great; if not, then I don't want teasing cold weather shots when it's bone dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 It's close though. Lets see what it shows for next week's storm. rain rain rain rain rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 rain rain rain rain rain. 1 month till spring training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Even the gfs has pretty much given up, it doesnt even show any storms. Let's just move on and get to next winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Even the gfs has pretty much given up, it doesnt even show any storms. Let's just move on and get to next winter. Not yet. 2 more months to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 It's close though. Lets see what it shows for next week's storm. once again irrelevant, if the pattern is bad nothing else matters. Where is Ace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 This pattern so far ranks up there with 2001-2002. I think the October storm really screwed us over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 once again irrelevant, if the pattern is bad nothing else matters. Where is Ace? You need to log off from Noreaster27 first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 It's close though. Lets see what it shows for next week's storm. That first system looks like it could mix with snow. The second one just looks weird with the cutoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 It's close though. Lets see what it shows for next week's storm. Swfe with marginal cold? Not close at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Swfe with marginal cold? Not close at all. It's only Tuesday. Lets see where we are at by Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Swfe with marginal cold? Not close at all. If it stays weak like that it could be rain, but we don't even know it will be weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxoutlooksblog Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Even the gfs has pretty much given up, it doesnt even show any storms. Let's just move on and get to next winter. Nah, it hasn't given up. It goes back and forth but you can see each run how it would burn us and each time it's for a different reason. This run, by the time the big GOM low gets up here (around the 12th if I remember correctly), the cold air is long gone. Then there is a slight bit of blocking (around the 15th or 16th), and storm develops well out in the Atlantic nowhere near us. Then, and as there almost always is, the fantasy range 384+ hour storm, which if you took it literally, is happening in the best set-up so far this season, but what will it look like in 5 days at 240 hours? Almost certainly nothing like this. So, on and on it goes. Actually, I would say that realistically speaking, the closest call for some snow this run may be this coming Sunday--the system which will probably either not have quite enough cold air to work with, or end up mostly missing us to the south and east. But honestly, these maps do not instill confidence in a robust winter weather pattern that produces winter storms. WX/PT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefflaw77 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 If this winter does fail to ever come off life support, it will only make the October Snowstorm look more like a fluke.. Honestly, at this point, nothing about this winter makes any sense.. Based upon what we're seeing there is about zero chance of anything happening before 1/15/12 and if things don't turn around on the models soon (and look promising - we'll be throwing January out the door.. Then all we're left w/ is February, and as I stated in 05/06 - things were looking horrible and we did suddenly get the February snowstorm.. Honestly, what's most upsetting to me and what I really do enjoy the most is tracking stuff and reading everyone's feedback.... As much as a love a foot of snow.. It comes and goes pretty quickly down near the coast. I just can't get over the fact that there is NOTHING to track!!!!! It's driving me insane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 If this winter does fail to ever come off life support, it will only make the October Snowstorm look more like a fluke.. Honestly, at this point, nothing about this winter makes any sense.. Based upon what we're seeing there is about zero chance of anything happening before 1/15/12 and if things don't turn around on the models soon (and look promising - we'll be throwing January out the door.. Then all we're left w/ is February, and as I stated in 05/06 - things were looking horrible and we did suddenly get the February snowstorm.. Honestly, what's most upsetting to me and what I really do enjoy the most is tracking stuff and reading everyone's feedback.... As much as a love a foot of snow.. It comes and goes pretty quickly down near the coast. I just can't get over the fact that there is NOTHING to track!!!!! It's driving me insane! It's not that there's nothing to track. Just have to realize the chances aren't that great and therefore the models are likely to also have unfavorable solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 If this winter does fail to ever come off life support, it will only make the October Snowstorm look more like a fluke.. Honestly, at this point, nothing about this winter makes any sense.. Based upon what we're seeing there is about zero chance of anything happening before 1/15/12 and if things don't turn around on the models soon (and look promising - we'll be throwing January out the door.. Then all we're left w/ is February, and as I stated in 05/06 - things were looking horrible and we did suddenly get the February snowstorm.. Honestly, what's most upsetting to me and what I really do enjoy the most is tracking stuff and reading everyone's feedback.... As much as a love a foot of snow.. It comes and goes pretty quickly down near the coast. I just can't get over the fact that there is NOTHING to track!!!!! It's driving me insane! What's also insane is that our area is not the only one who is suffering. Usually in La Nina year, our area gets screwed while SNE and NNE gets creamed. That is not the case this year. In 2006, we had 11 inches by this time. NYC has only 3 inches right now. Until the pattern changes, we aren't going to see major storms a long the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 If this winter does fail to ever come off life support, it will only make the October Snowstorm look more like a fluke.. Honestly, at this point, nothing about this winter makes any sense.. Based upon what we're seeing there is about zero chance of anything happening before 1/15/12 and if things don't turn around on the models soon (and look promising - we'll be throwing January out the door.. Then all we're left w/ is February, and as I stated in 05/06 - things were looking horrible and we did suddenly get the February snowstorm.. Honestly, what's most upsetting to me and what I really do enjoy the most is tracking stuff and reading everyone's feedback.... As much as a love a foot of snow.. It comes and goes pretty quickly down near the coast. I just can't get over the fact that there is NOTHING to track!!!!! It's driving me insane! we can't even get a flurry..lol..there hasn't been a trace for November,December and now it looks like thru the middle of January..I mean it's up there with 01-02..when it comes to warmth and no winter weather whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 we can't even get a flurry..lol..there hasn't been a trace for November,December and now it looks like thru the middle of January..I mean it's up there with 01-02..when it comes to warmth and no winter weather whatsoever I remember it being in the 70's in January. My dad and I were playing stickball in the middle of January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefflaw77 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 There is always something to track- even if the coast gets hosed and Inland locales get a nice snowstorm.. There just aren't any storms.. Like someone mentioned above- The entire U.S. is in one strange weather pattern.... It usually snows in certain locations.... Mother Nature must have said to herself this year... "Listen, I gave you everything I had for the past 2 years... I have nothing left... Maybe in a year or two i'll throw you a bone..." hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I remember it being in the 70's in January. My dad and I were playing stickball in the middle of January. yep..i'll meet you at the 209 schoolyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I remember it being in the 70's in January. My dad and I were playing stickball in the middle of January. Lol, yep, I played baseball with my dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 There is always something to track- even if the coast gets hosed and Inland locales get a nice snowstorm.. There just aren't any storms.. Like someone mentioned above- The entire U.S. is in one strange weather pattern.... It usually snows in certain locations.... Mother Nature must have said to herself this year... "Listen, I gave you everything I had for the past 2 years... I have nothing left... Maybe in a year or two i'll throw you a bone..." hahaha I think that our area will get hit but it's taking sooooo long for the pattern to change. yep..i'll meet you at the 209 schoolyard Let me know when you come to Brooklyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 funny to see the lake effect guys get skunked too. All those warning etc for very little snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Close call on the GGEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersWx92 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 If this winter does fail to ever come off life support, it will only make the October Snowstorm look more like a fluke.. Honestly, at this point, nothing about this winter makes any sense.. Based upon what we're seeing there is about zero chance of anything happening before 1/15/12 and if things don't turn around on the models soon (and look promising - we'll be throwing January out the door.. Then all we're left w/ is February, and as I stated in 05/06 - things were looking horrible and we did suddenly get the February snowstorm.. Honestly, what's most upsetting to me and what I really do enjoy the most is tracking stuff and reading everyone's feedback.... As much as a love a foot of snow.. It comes and goes pretty quickly down near the coast. I just can't get over the fact that there is NOTHING to track!!!!! It's driving me insane! Yeah tell me about it...some would say that a winter like 07-08 was the worst because, while there were storms to track, there were a lot of disappointments and we had to watch places to our north get hammered. But now that I've lived through such a boring period as this one I think I'd prefer an 07-08 type winter. Even if there are disappointments at least there's still some excitement tracking the storms and we usually get at least something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Boston has only seen an inch of snow http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KBOS/2011/12/31/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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