NorEaster27 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Lol, I wouldn't even mention that one..it could hurt some weenie's hearts in this thread. A sub 995mb low over the benchmark that is all rain even into the mountains of New England. Welcome the -pna and +nao pattern, awful. Look for highs into the 50s for most of jan with only brief cold shots after rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Welcome the -pna and +nao pattern, awful. Look for highs into the 50s for most of jan with only brief cold shots after rain Really? Your beyond ridiculous, I agree it will be milder than normal once again but highs in the 50s for most of January is completely ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Nice snow shower moving through Long Beach right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Something to watch. The 6z GEFS hinting at major amplification between 12th-14th. Amplfication is supported by the 0z NCEP ensemble mean and somewhat by 0z Euro ensemblemean at 240hr: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Surprise Report from Downtown Jersey City: I was on Grand Street here in downtown Jersey City, about 10 blocks from the Hudson, when I saw a very large round white object streak across the sky. The time was approximately 1:15AM. Did anyone else see this very unusual sight? I would think others in Downtown Jersey City or downtown New York with a view of the Hudson could have seen it, and possibly those in Hoboken and midtown near the Hudson could have seen whatever it was. I walked up to the Owen Grundy Park that's next to the Hudson River, hoping that someone there had seen what I had seen. Unfortunately for me, while there's often somebody there on many nights, nobody was sitting on the benches, or leaning on the rails or otherwise hanging out tonight. When I turned back to go home, I saw the moon. What I had seen was much larger than tonight's moon. It was definitely round and symmetrical. It had a number of small bits hanging off it. Did anyone else see this? Any idea of what it was? I wasn't home in Jersey City last night, but FWIW (and probably not much), I have hundreds of FB friends in Jersey City and I haven't seen a single status update about any lights last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I was thinking yesterday about all the newscasters asking if the pre-Halloween snowfall meant that we were going to have a long, cold winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JERSEYSNOWROB Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Nice snow shower moving through Long Beach right now. Areas to our south outside of Philly, Baltimore and DC also had numerous snow squalls this morning as well. Some roads were even snow covered. Let's hope we all get in on that action at some point today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 the action from the lakes continues to look putrid. Don't see much action getting over the mountains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-01-03/u-s-northeast-temperatures-above-normal-next-week-outlooks-say.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermeh Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 the action from the lakes continues to look putrid. Don't see much action getting over the mountains Looks like tomorrow maybe a better day for a snow shower or two for the immediate NYC area with that one piece of energy passing over us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmc10 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Looks like tomorrow maybe a better day for a snow shower or two for the immediate NYC area with that one piece of energy passing over us. I got my snow shower last night, I was very excited to see some snow falling from the sky. Had a light dusting on everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoralRed Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I wasn't home in Jersey City last night, but FWIW (and probably not much), I have hundreds of FB friends in Jersey City and I haven't seen a single status update about any lights last night. Thanks for your response. I didn't find anything about this yet at Google News. I looked last night before writing my post and again just now. I must have said to myself "What the H=== Was That?" more than a half dozen times last night. I may never get an answer to that question. For years I've pointed out to people how weird it is that it always seems to be people out in the boonies who see strange things in the sky. Well, now I can say from experience that people in cities can see strange things, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Thanks for your response. I didn't find anything about this yet at Google News. I looked last night before writing my post and again just now. I must have said to myself "What the H=== Was That?" more than a half dozen last night. I may never get an answer to that question. For years I've pointed out to people how strange it is that only people out in the boonies report seeing strange things. Well, now I can say from experience that people in cities can see strange things, too. Do you think that it may have been a meteor? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45857264/ns/technology_and_science-space/#.TwMsMmCJmkI http://spaceweather.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 the last thing you want to see right now is a rogue 500 low trugging across the deep south with the ++++++NAO. This is not a good pattern in any way shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmc10 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Would love to see at least even just a flake Sunday. Would be nice for the Giants game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 the last thing you want to see right now is a rogue 500 low trugging across the deep south with the ++++++NAO. This is not a good pattern in any way shape or form. Same old story with this pattern that we have been seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Same old story with this pattern that we have been seeing. unfortunately, its just not there, and not sure at this point its going to be. The NAO is just too positive and its killing anything we have on the pac side. The worst part is, once they go so positive like this, its very hard to turn around. Also, the statospheric warming we saw or could see is NOT ligning up to benefit us it appears, its all over the other side of the globe so we really dont get a true -AO which again hurts us with getting ride of the ++++NAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Same old story with this pattern that we have been seeing. The pattern just simply remains progressive, depsite the downward trends in the AO or EPO. Every now than the +PNA spikes up, to give some cold and a chance at a storm. But there's no decent -NAO to lock it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Midday temps across the area are steady/slowly falling into the middle 20s. NYC has been 25-26 the past couple hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Euro is west and warmer then GFS and GGEM for the day 5 threat. Another vort is dropping in behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I'm not even mildly confident of any winter wx potential unless the massive vortex moves out from Baffin Bay/Greenland. It makes the pattern down here very unfavorable for anything but passing flurries behind cold air shots and lake cutters. The low heights over Alaska are also very unfavorable. Unless this changes in any real way, it's hard for me to see how any threat (threat meaning widespread over 4" snow) pans out. In a Nina like this, we need some form of blocking up north to bar the SE Ridge from having too much influence. Maybe later we can get a gradient pattern to set up, but those generally favor New England/upstate NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Euro finally shows some real height changes up around greenland at the end of its run. Coincidentally, the gfs ensembles loves this time too. Gotta watch to see if this keeps showing up and hopefully we can keep the amplification out west or get some ridging over alaska at the same time to make it really interesting around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Euro finally shows some real height changes up around greenland at the end of its run. Coincidentally, the gfs ensembles loves this time too. Gotta watch to see if this keeps showing up and hopefully we can keep the amplification out west or get some ridging over alaska at the same time to make it really interesting around here. Do you think if the Euro is right in its depiction that the second storm could be colder than modeled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Do you think if the Euro is right in its depiction that the second storm could be colder than modeled? no, because the second storm actually has a part in getting those heights up and into greenland. As I and several other posters have said, there is a pig ridge sitting out in the atlantic but it has had no success and really no chance of working west with the current ++AO. What the models are picking up on is that the AO finally relaxes and thus the pig ridge does wrap west with bombing low around Newfoundland and the heights race west and give us some blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 no, because the second storm actually has a part in getting those heights up and into greenland. As I and several other posters have said, there is a pig ridge sitting out in the atlantic but it has had no success and really no chance of working west with the current ++AO. What the models are picking up on is that the AO finally relaxes and thus the pig ridge does wrap west with bombing low around Newfoundland and the heights race west and give us some blocking. So you would be more optimistic about storms in the second half of Jan., right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Weather Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Surprised there is not more talk here about the possible snow that the Euro and Canadian models are showing for Sunday. While most areas would be rain for the majority of the storm, except possibly extreme NW NJ, it does look to change to some accumulating snow for Northern NJ on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 So you would be more optimistic about storms in the second half of Jan., right? if that verified, there could be a window, but if its just transient or we dont get pac help, it could be more of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Surprised there is not more talk here about the possible snow that the Euro and Canadian models are showing for Sunday. While most areas would be rain for the majority of the storm, except possibly extreme NW NJ, it does look to change to some accumulating snow for Northern NJ on Sunday. We all know the drill, it will trend further NW and even at that, with no cold air, snow will be confirmed to the highest elevations.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCsnow17 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Surprised there is not more talk here about the possible snow that the Euro and Canadian models are showing for Sunday. While most areas would be rain for the majority of the storm, except possibly extreme NW NJ, it does look to change to some accumulating snow for Northern NJ on Sunday. You said it right there "mostly rain". Backside snow isn't an ideal situation for the region anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbourton Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Surprised there is not more talk here about the possible snow that the Euro and Canadian models are showing for Sunday. While most areas would be rain for the majority of the storm, except possibly extreme NW NJ, it does look to change to some accumulating snow for Northern NJ on Sunday. Euro seems to be trending west with this storm in response to more warm air being pumped up ahead of this storm. Check out 0Z position of the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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