LocoAko Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Since I see it being discussed a fair amount (and because I'm bored), I figured I'd go through and once-and-for-all see which meteorologists have degrees (or some training) and which don't. Of course, we know this doesn't necessarily make one a bad or good forecaster, and there are plenty of people/interns who work behind the scenes, but people seem to think it matters, so here goes. CBS2 John Elliott - B.A. in Radio, Television, and Film, studied meteorology at Mississippi State University Lonnie Quinn - B.A. in Speech Communications from Boston College Elise Finch - Broadcast Meteorology Program from Mississippi State University Vanessa Murdoch - M.S. in Meteorology from Penn State University NBC4 Janice Huff - B.S. in Meteorology from Florida State University Chris Cimino - B.S. in Meteorology from City College New York Domenica Davis - B.S. in Broadcast Journalism from Boston College, Broadcast Meteorology Program from Mississippi State University Raphael Miranda - B.A. in Spanish from NYU, Broadcast Meteorology Program from Mississippi State University FOX5 Nick Gregory - B.S. in Meteorology from Lyndon State College Mike Woods - B.A. in Rhetoric and Communications from U.C. Davis Shay Ryan - B.A. in Telecommunication from University of FL, Broadcast Meteorology Program from Mississippi State University ABC7 Jeff Smith - B.S. in Meteorology from Cornell University Lee Goldberg - B.S. in Meteorology from Cornell University Bill Evans - B.A. from Mississippi State University, Meteorology degree from Jackson State University Amy Freeze - B.S. in Geosciences from Mississippi State University, M.S. in Environmental Science from UPenn PIX11 Linda Church - ?? from University of Florida Mr. G - B.A. in History from Hofstra University, M.A. in Secondary Ed from Hofstra Lisa Mateo - Currently enrolled at Kean University working on a meteorology degree John Marshall - ?? Craig Allen - B.S. in Meteorology from Stony Brook University (also on CBS Radio) NY1 News John Davitt - B.S. in Meteorology from Kean University So, does weather a "meteorologist" on the news have a degree in Meteorology or not affect your perception of them? Should it? Do you think there is a correlation between having a B.S. in Met. and forecasting ability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmc10 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 You have made me realize that I should enroll in the Mississippi State University Broadcast Meteorology Program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I've always felt that the good forcasters are the ones who have a passion for the weather like we do here. Many of them don't have that passion even if they do have a degree. I've always said that some of them studied weather because they really didn't know what they wanted to do with their lives, not because they loved weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Since I see it being discussed a fair amount (and because I'm bored), I figured I'd go through and once-and-for-all see which meteorologists have degrees (or some training) and which don't. Of course, we know this doesn't necessarily make one a bad or good forecaster, and there are plenty of people/interns who work behind the scenes, but people seem to think it matters, so here goes. So, does weather a "meteorologist" on the news have a degree in Meteorology or not affect your perception of them? Should it? Do you think there is a correlation between having a B.S. in Met. and forecasting ability? I dont think their degrees have ever mattered to me....but a certain bias does develop based on their past storms, how much they seem to actually know, etc. Janice Huff has a degree, but when you watch, there are times you get the impression that shes really up there to give everyone the basics, and nothing more. That may just be a product of what the news station and the general public might want. The opposite end of the spectrum is obviously some of the people from Channel 7....they (seem to at least) go much further, discussing things (such as blocking) that anyone only interested in the short term weather probably has never heard of before lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I personally don't care. I figure in 15-20 years it will be computer generated people on the news and not actual people. outsource the domestic buying met products such as accuweather to india and cut cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 This should explain the MIssissippi state thing http://www.freshaj.com/can-we-finally-define-who-a-“meteorologist”-is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 You have to realize that on-air personalities may have other responsibilities such as community outreach, going to award ceremonies where everyone wins an award, meeting with advertisers, etc. so if they haven't looked at the 00Z models, it may not mean they are lazy, but didn't have the time. Keep in mind they also have weather producers. If you watch Channel four at 4:30 A.M., behind Cimino when they go to the weather center is their weather producer (I believe) who used to be on-air I believe in Minneapolis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I dont think their degrees have ever mattered to me....but a certain bias does develop based on their past storms, how much they seem to actually know, etc. Janice Huff has a degree, but when you watch, there are times you get the impression that shes really up there to give everyone the basics, and nothing more. That may just be a product of what the news station and the general public might want. The opposite end of the spectrum is obviously some of the people from Channel 7....they (seem to at least) go much further, discussing things (such as blocking) that anyone only interested in the short term weather probably has never heard of before lol. She definitely comes off as being pretty weak meteorologically, I'll tell you that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstorm Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Do any of those meteorologists have an account on these forums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Energy Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 This should explain the MIssissippi state thing http://www.freshaj.c...teorologist”-is Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I agree with the article in terms of what someone should have to call themselves a meteorologist but I think the post by doncat hits it pretty well. I think there are many people in this field as there are many others because they just thought it sounded cool or did not know what else they wanted to do. As a result, while they may not necessarily hate the career or the job they don't have the passion for it to perform with the level of enthusiam or knowledge of say a TV guy like Joe Cioffi or Nick Gregory even though they might possess the same knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 The last time I went to a local "news channel" for "weather information" was during the Blizzard of '83, I believe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 The last time I went to a local "news channel" for "weather information" was during the Blizzard of '83, I believe... with the level of enthusiam or knowledge of say a TV guy like Joe Cioffi. Will amend my post to make an exception for Cioffi...who I watched daily on the local cable channel "News 12"....this man was out****ingstanding and a hero and inspiration to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I dont listen to local TV Mets when there is a milion times more information on here and I can figure most if not all of it out myself. I could care less where any of them have attended school except having a sense of pride for those who attended Cornell, and that is the extent of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Will amend my post to make an exception for Cioffi...who I watched daily on the local cable channel "News 12"....this man was out****ingstanding and a hero and inspiration to me... I agree with this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Will amend my post to make an exception for Cioffi...who I watched daily on the local cable channel "News 12"....this man was out****ingstanding and a hero and inspiration to me... The ABC crew is great. Lee Golberg and the crew go into great detail. They use the euro and explain weather in detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 The CBS2 crew used to be good as well. They had a hell of a team and then they dismantled it and brought in Lonnie instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Will amend my post to make an exception for Cioffi...who I watched daily on the local cable channel "News 12"....this man was out****ingstanding and a hero and inspiration to me... ...you never see cioffi anymore..he is still employed by 'news 12' long island..to bad we are stuck with r. hoffman every morning..no offense to rich but can't he give more insight to the longer range or explain the why's or why nots..i mean he's on about 80 times per hour..its the same bs every segment he's on..hey william..do you remember "joestradamous"??..thats when cioffi would look long range and would explain what was going on...he was right more than he was wrong..and he was just as passionate as we are regarding snow/cold.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momza Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Will amend my post to make an exception for Cioffi...who I watched daily on the local cable channel "News 12"....this man was out****ingstanding and a hero and inspiration to me... Joe Cioffi was working the Sunday before the Blizzard in 1978 at the weather Bureau. He delivered the analysis for them on weather radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momza Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 The CBS2 crew used to be good as well. They had a hell of a team and then they dismantled it and brought in Lonnie instead. WCBS had a great history of Mets. Gordon Barnes, Alan Kasper, Nick Gregory, Joe D'Leo......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 I have to admit that I was pretty surprised to learn that Vanessa Murdoch has a Master's in Meteorology from PSU. Pretty damn impressive - not too often one with those qualifications goes into television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I have to admit that I was pretty surprised to learn that Vanessa Murdoch has a Master's in Meteorology from PSU. Pretty damn impressive - not too often one with those qualifications goes into television. The only other on air meteorologist I was aware of who has a Masters in Meteorology was believe it or not Norm Dvoskin from News 12. He has a MS in Meteorology from I believe NYU back in the days when they had a program there which has been gone for years now, one of my college professors had his degree from there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Some great mets don't come across good on TV or radio...I grew up watching Tex Antoine who wasn't a met but left you thinking he knew his weather...Today it's all about the models...I think you have to know the climate you are forecasting for...When and if I move to Florida the first thing I will do concerning the local weather is reading up on the climate and their weather records... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Yeah its really difficult to find that balance. You need someone with a good tv/on air personality, looks good, speaks well and can hopefully also forecast the weather. Some stations opt for the pretty face while having someone else do the weather behind the scenes. I guess there's nothing really wrong with that, so long as the public is getting the best information fed to them. It seems like the general public go with who they trust, who they think is right most often, not necessarily who knows the most. Some great mets don't come across good on TV or radio...I grew up watching Tex Antoine who wasn't a met but left you thinking he knew his weather...Today it's all about the models...I think you have to know the climate you are forecasting for...When and if I move to Florida the first thing I will do concerning the local weather is reading up on the climate and their weather records... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Lightning Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Since I see it being discussed a fair amount (and because I'm bored), I figured I'd go through and once-and-for-all see which meteorologists have degrees (or some training) and which don't. Of course, we know this doesn't necessarily make one a bad or good forecaster, and there are plenty of people/interns who work behind the scenes, but people seem to think it matters, so here goes. CBS2 John Elliott - B.A. in Radio, Television, and Film, studied meteorology at Mississippi State University Lonnie Quinn - B.A. in Speech Communications from Boston College Elise Finch - Broadcast Meteorology Program from Mississippi State University Vanessa Murdoch - M.S. in Meteorology from Penn State University NBC4 Janice Huff - B.S. in Meteorology from Florida State University Chris Cimino - B.S. in Meteorology from City College New York Domenica Davis - B.S. in Broadcast Journalism from Boston College, Broadcast Meteorology Program from Mississippi State University Raphael Miranda - B.A. in Spanish from NYU, Broadcast Meteorology Program from Mississippi State University FOX5 Nick Gregory - B.S. in Meteorology from Lyndon State College Mike Woods - B.A. in Rhetoric and Communications from U.C. Davis Shay Ryan - B.A. in Telecommunication from University of FL, Broadcast Meteorology Program from Mississippi State University ABC7 Jeff Smith - B.S. in Meteorology from Cornell University Lee Goldberg - B.S. in Meteorology from Cornell University Bill Evans - B.A. from Mississippi State University, Meteorology degree from Jackson State University Amy Freeze - B.S. in Geosciences from Mississippi State University, M.S. in Environmental Science from UPenn PIX11 Linda Church - ?? from University of Florida Mr. G - B.A. in History from Hofstra University, M.A. in Secondary Ed from Hofstra Lisa Mateo - Currently enrolled at Kean University working on a meteorology degree John Marshall - ?? Craig Allen - B.S. in Meteorology from Stony Brook University (also on CBS Radio) NY1 News John Davitt - B.S. in Meteorology from Kean University So, does weather a "meteorologist" on the news have a degree in Meteorology or not affect your perception of them? Should it? Do you think there is a correlation between having a B.S. in Met. and forecasting ability? John Marshall has a degree in meteorology(back then though it was a BA, not a BS like it is today) from Kean university. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 John Marshall has a degree in meteorology(back then though it was a BA, not a BS like it is today) from Kean university. Where is john Marshall these days? I watched him a few times on WPIX but recently its Craig Allen. Thanks, Rossi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Lightning Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Where is john Marshall these days? I watched him a few times on WPIX but recently its Craig Allen. Thanks, Rossi He is freelancing whenever he can. He set up a website and a Facebook page that you can check out every day. Site: http://www.johnmarshallweather.com/ FB page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Marshall-Weather/328525397162374 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yhbrooklyn Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Craig Allen used to have an account at Eastern. Not sure if he signed up here too. Great guy. Joe Cioffi used to be my favorite. Mr. G is "cutesy", but Joe acxtually explained the science. Such a shame he was never the primary Met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxtracker93 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 You have to realize that on-air personalities may have other responsibilities such as community outreach, going to award ceremonies where everyone wins an award, meeting with advertisers, etc. so if they haven't looked at the 00Z models, it may not mean they are lazy, but didn't have the time. Keep in mind they also have weather producers. If you watch Channel four at 4:30 A.M., behind Cimino when they go to the weather center is their weather producer (I believe) who used to be on-air I believe in Minneapolis. Generally. WABC receives daily products from AccuWeather instead of utilizing an in-house weather producer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Since I see it being discussed a fair amount (and because I'm bored), I figured I'd go through and once-and-for-all see which meteorologists have degrees (or some training) and which don't. Of course, we know this doesn't necessarily make one a bad or good forecaster, and there are plenty of people/interns who work behind the scenes, but people seem to think it matters, so here goes. CBS2 John Elliott - B.A. in Radio, Television, and Film, studied meteorology at Mississippi State University Lonnie Quinn - B.A. in Speech Communications from Boston College Elise Finch - Broadcast Meteorology Program from Mississippi State University Vanessa Murdoch - M.S. in Meteorology from Penn State University NBC4 Janice Huff - B.S. in Meteorology from Florida State University Chris Cimino - B.S. in Meteorology from City College New York Domenica Davis - B.S. in Broadcast Journalism from Boston College, Broadcast Meteorology Program from Mississippi State University Raphael Miranda - B.A. in Spanish from NYU, Broadcast Meteorology Program from Mississippi State University FOX5 Nick Gregory - B.S. in Meteorology from Lyndon State College Mike Woods - B.A. in Rhetoric and Communications from U.C. Davis Shay Ryan - B.A. in Telecommunication from University of FL, Broadcast Meteorology Program from Mississippi State University ABC7 Jeff Smith - B.S. in Meteorology from Cornell University Lee Goldberg - B.S. in Meteorology from Cornell University Bill Evans - B.A. from Mississippi State University, Meteorology degree from Jackson State University Amy Freeze - B.S. in Geosciences from Mississippi State University, M.S. in Environmental Science from UPenn PIX11 Linda Church - ?? from University of Florida Mr. G - B.A. in History from Hofstra University, M.A. in Secondary Ed from Hofstra Lisa Mateo - Currently enrolled at Kean University working on a meteorology degree John Marshall - ?? Craig Allen - B.S. in Meteorology from Stony Brook University (also on CBS Radio) NY1 News John Davitt - B.S. in Meteorology from Kean University So, does weather a "meteorologist" on the news have a degree in Meteorology or not affect your perception of them? Should it? Do you think there is a correlation between having a B.S. in Met. and forecasting ability? John Marshall has a B.S. in Meteorology from Kean University. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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