michsnowfreak Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 This storm doesnt have much moisture in the cold sector. Not really excited to get less then 3 inches knowing it will melt. If it was a cold pattern it would be a nice base to start with. We will definitely have periods of snowcover this winter longer than weve had thus far, but this winter clearly wont hold a candle to 2010-11 (which was 26" and 31 snowcover days above normal here). Despite the atrocious pattern, SE MI has had at least 6 measurable snow events since Nov 30th. With us getting deeper into winter, an eventual (hopefully soon) pattern change, and the active weather in these parts that you can book in a La Nina, plenty more snow will come. The million dollar question is how long will we be able to sustain a snowpack this season? My confidence has increased on the guess I first made in October: total snowfall will be above normal, snowcover below. Im hoping with hints at a pattern change in early-mid January they start growing a snowbase up north, Ive already decided to hold off my trip til early March instead of mid-Feb. Time to get offline..Merry Christmas Eve all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 lol Lol. Some people are to ****ing serious and have no understanding of humor. Not talking about u though...for the love of God these damn kids now a days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Lol. Some people are to ****ing serious and have no understanding of humor. Not talking about u though...for the love of God these damn kids now a days. I guess I didn't see much humor in it; I honestly thought you were serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 I guess I didn't see much humor in it; I honestly thought you were serious. Me too. Lack of emoticon makes the intent almost impossible to decipher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernohio Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Looks like a solid 1-3 or 2-4 even for much of Northern Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Maybe I'll throw in a emotion symbol in next time. Hard to acomplish on the mobil site. OT here my apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Maybe I'll throw in a emotion symbol in next time. Hard to acomplish on the mobil site. OT here my apologies. Just come out of the "negative closet" I know you want to. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Euro shows 1-3" across IN, SE MI, NW OH, southern ON. lock in please. Even an inch would be swell at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 ^WOTY Uh huh. Too bad we don't have the #s to get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 I guess something to keep in the back of the mind is that the southern cutoff is in Mexico right now (at least part of it). Any minor mishandling could have rather significant implications one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Timing is going to be essential with this storm. Northern stream speeds up just a little, or if the southern stream s/w slows down, and this is going to be a weak polar fropa with the main thrust of moisture missing to the SE. 18z NAM looks ok, but it's real close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 lolz @ the NAM. Can't take that seriously at all... even if it is nearly 6" here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I swear if this storm misses just to the south I will leave this board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I swear if this storm misses just to the south I will leave this board liar. You'll be back for more pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Another useless snowstorm... Snow in places with no snowmobile trails or parks for it blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 I knew this pattern reminded me of something. The Feb 5 storm from this year...take a look: 12z December 24 analysis: Definitely some similarities between those 2 maps. Feb 5 was the one that was dead in the water and came back/trended northwest at the last minute in what was probably one of the more dramatic short term shifts for a winter storm since 12/24/02 at least in my opinion. Don't know for sure but I have to assume something was missed in the modeling to cause such a large change and the handling of the Mexico upper low is a prime suspect. Sorta the opposite this time in that we have a storm that is being advertised...hopefully it doesn't go poof as we get closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I hope everyone saved themselves a physical/mental image of that 00z NAM run from last night (12/24), it could very well be the best we're going to get out of this storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Another useless snowstorm... Snow in places with no snowmobile trails or parks for it blow. My thoughts exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I hope everyone saved themselves a physical/mental image of that 00z NAM run from last night (12/24), it could very well be the best we're going to get out of this storm. I admit to think that this *might* stay southeast of here with the AO/NAO the way it is IS infuriating to say the least. Note i did say MIGHT. Still enough time to get this back on a more correct course further to the nw. I would rather be missed to the nw and lay down some snow up that way. Merry Christmas to all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 December 27, and this would nearly quadruple my snowfall for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I admit to think that this *might* stay southeast of here with the AO/NAO the way it is IS infuriating to say the least. Note i did say MIGHT. Still enough time to get this back on a more correct course further to the nw. I would rather be missed to the nw and lay down some snow up that way. Merry Christmas to all! Merry Christmas to you too. It's close though. If the northern stream can dig just a little harder or the southern stream can move just a little faster then we're in serious business. And if it closes off in the process then whoopie!!! But it's pretty all or nothing, no in betweens. Though I'm honestly not complaining if this pattern sticks with us for a few more weeks. My commute is too long to be driving in snow. It's going to change eventually anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I don't understand how this will go south of here the way the AO/NAO is. Every f$&?ing storm either goes to my NW or SE. It's frustrating to say the least. Let's hope for the best with the 00z runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I'll take whatever comes. I work Tuesday either way so I'm fine with snow or no snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 A look at what the 18z NAM is painting for northern Ohio come for early part of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue60007 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 It's a shame this storm doesn't have more cold air to work with. 0z NAM would rock my socks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokomoWX Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Of course the one day I am heading to Detroit, this comes along. #BoilerUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyGreens Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 A look at what the 18z NAM is painting for northern Ohio come for early part of the week. Maybe we can cover the grass for the first time this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Sigh, looks like Tuesday is becoming more and more of a pipe dream. Need another 21.7" this season to tie the futility record set in 2009-10. Seems like it'll be a monumental task at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Euro maintaining a 1-3" even across IN/OH/MI/ON as before. More phased compared to the NAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Euro maintaining a 1-3" even across IN/OH/MI/ON as before. More phased compared to the NAM. Weatherunderground Euro snowfall looks similar to the 12z with a solid 2-4" across a good chunk of OH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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