dryslot Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 hopefully this trends east. Won't, Everyone poo pooing it, Its not that far from being a decent hit for some, But apparently its been written off already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 hopefully this trends east. Rinse repeat hope is gone like yesterday, gone like a freight train, gone like 59 Chevy and it ain't never coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I'm going to Debbie this storm. Rain for all ('cept maybe 'freak) or I'll eat Pete's ski pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 I hope you can stomach aluminum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 Happy new year again on the GFS.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Happy new year again on the GFS.. Euro banana hammocks, GFS full skiwear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 Euro banana hammocks, GFS full skiwear Which do we pick, Euro just got owned this last one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Euro banana hammocks, GFS full skiwear Hrm...I wonder who'll be right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Piece of sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Euro is a torch for everyone...powderfreak may end as some upslope snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Euro is a torch for everyone...powderfreak may end as some upslope snow. What an awful week coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Well, at least by having this storm being so bad 3-4 days out, we don't have to waste hours on end waiting to see how much more rain/warmth will be on its way. Much better than haing the whole thing go down the toilet in 12 hours. But no storms can turn to crap in that short a time......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Euro is a torch for everyone...powderfreak may end as some upslope snow. Yeah this could turn bad in a hurry... BTV seemed optimistic but in my emails with them yesterday they were all saying "think snow" and "hopefully it snows" so they may be trying to be "pro-snow" right now. They mention possible Advisory level snows on Sunday night and Monday morning with clipper/upslope, but then I don't get this if you guys are saying ECM is a torch for all: STILL SOME MODEL DIFFERENCES IN TERMS OF DEGREE OF PHASING WITH NRN STREAM SHORTWAVE TROUGH PROGRESSING ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES REGION AT THE SAME TIME. THIS WILL SUBSEQUENTLY AFFECT THE EVOLUTION/DEEPENING OF THE SFC LOW AS IT MOVES NEWD TOWARD CAPE COD BY 06Z WEDNESDAY. ONSET OF PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE NORTH COUNTRY GENERALLY TUESDAY AFTN FROM SW-NE WITH HEAVIEST PCPN TUESDAY NIGHT. VERTICAL TEMPERATURE PROFILES GENERALLY COLD ENOUGH TO SUPPORT SNOW...THOUGH SOME RAIN/SNOW/SLEET MIX CAN/T BE RULED OUT DURING THE FIRST SEVERAL HRS OF THE EVENT TUESDAY AFTN...ESPECIALLY IN THE CT RIVER VALLEY AND S-CENTRAL VERMONT. LOW IS GENERALLY QUICK MOVING LIMITING OVERALL DURATION OF PRECIPITATION AND QPF AMTS. THAT SAID...A MODERATE SNOWFALL IS POSSIBLE WITH TRAVEL IMPACTS LATE TUESDAY...TUESDAY NIGHT AND LINGERING INTO THE MORNING COMMUTE HRS ON WEDNESDAY. IF THE NRN AND SRN STREAMS BECOMING MORE PHASED - AS IS SUGGESTED BY THE 00Z ECMWF SOLN - A SLOWER MOVING SYSTEM WITH GREATER SNOWFALL WOULD BE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE NORTH COUNTRY. WE/LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I'm going to Debbie this storm. Rain for all ('cept maybe 'freak) or I'll eat Pete's pole. no comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 no comment Hope I can stomach wood? The writing is on the wall with this event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 yes i agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Yeah this could turn bad in a hurry... BTV seemed optimistic but in my emails with them yesterday they were all saying "think snow" and "hopefully it snows" so they may be trying to be "pro-snow" right now. They mention possible Advisory level snows on Sunday night and Monday morning with clipper/upslope, but then I don't get this if you guys are saying ECM is a torch for all: STILL SOME MODEL DIFFERENCES IN TERMS OF DEGREE OF PHASING WITH NRN STREAM SHORTWAVE TROUGH PROGRESSING ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES REGION AT THE SAME TIME. THIS WILL SUBSEQUENTLY AFFECT THE EVOLUTION/DEEPENING OF THE SFC LOW AS IT MOVES NEWD TOWARD CAPE COD BY 06Z WEDNESDAY. ONSET OF PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE NORTH COUNTRY GENERALLY TUESDAY AFTN FROM SW-NE WITH HEAVIEST PCPN TUESDAY NIGHT. VERTICAL TEMPERATURE PROFILES GENERALLY COLD ENOUGH TO SUPPORT SNOW...THOUGH SOME RAIN/SNOW/SLEET MIX CAN/T BE RULED OUT DURING THE FIRST SEVERAL HRS OF THE EVENT TUESDAY AFTN...ESPECIALLY IN THE CT RIVER VALLEY AND S-CENTRAL VERMONT. LOW IS GENERALLY QUICK MOVING LIMITING OVERALL DURATION OF PRECIPITATION AND QPF AMTS. THAT SAID...A MODERATE SNOWFALL IS POSSIBLE WITH TRAVEL IMPACTS LATE TUESDAY...TUESDAY NIGHT AND LINGERING INTO THE MORNING COMMUTE HRS ON WEDNESDAY. IF THE NRN AND SRN STREAMS BECOMING MORE PHASED - AS IS SUGGESTED BY THE 00Z ECMWF SOLN - A SLOWER MOVING SYSTEM WITH GREATER SNOWFALL WOULD BE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE NORTH COUNTRY. WE/LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR. I don't get it either...Euro was warm and west....which is what a phased system would promote...further west and warm. It does end as snow there, but there's def rain for a good portion before that. It rips the +4C 850 line up to like Montreal during the storm and there isn't much if anything on the front end as all the cold has been advected out prior to this storm. Maybe this will buck the trend of getting warmer as we get closer, but there's really nothing in the pattern that would suggest it happens this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Rain wire to wire from border to shining border. At least we have clipper snows Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I don't get it either...Euro was warm and west....which is what a phased system would promote...further west and warm. It does end as snow there, but there's def rain for a good portion before that. It rips the +4C 850 line up to like Montreal during the storm and there isn't much if anything on the front end as all the cold has been advected out prior to this storm. Maybe this will buck the trend of getting warmer as we get closer, but there's really nothing in the pattern that would suggest it happens this time. Someone's a little bitter after a bad December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Someone's a little bitter after a bad December. No, we had a December like this 5 years ago...they happen. Do you disagree with what I wrote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 No, we had a December like this 5 years ago...they happen. Do you disagree with what I wrote? I think we're skunked down south... but I think elevations up north could be OK. It's pretty close 96-102 hours on the Euro. It's funny to see you go for mr. snow optimistic to Debbie Downer... the roles have been reversed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I think we're skunked down south... but I think elevations up north could be OK. It's pretty close 96-102 hours on the Euro. It's funny to see you go for mr. snow optimistic to Debbie Downer... the roles have been reversed! It looks pretty bad outside of upslope snow behind the storm. At least imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 It looks pretty bad outside of upslope snow behind the storm. At least imo. It could certainly rip up through Syracuse like the GGEM shows but at least right now most of the models are decent or a close call for the Dacks and N VT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 It could certainly rip up through Syracuse like the GGEM shows but at least right now most of the models are decent or a close call for the Dacks and N VT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I don't get it either...Euro was warm and west....which is what a phased system would promote...further west and warm. It does end as snow there, but there's def rain for a good portion before that. It rips the +4C 850 line up to like Montreal during the storm and there isn't much if anything on the front end as all the cold has been advected out prior to this storm. Maybe this will buck the trend of getting warmer as we get closer, but there's really nothing in the pattern that would suggest it happens this time. Yeah I'm with you on that one... looking at it on E-Wall I'm not sure how BTV comes up with that. We can hope it doesn't trend NW but if its been happening with every other system, what's stopping this one? It has me concerned given business levels this week. Rain mid week would be pretty devestating. I can spin it a bit if we are able to at least pick up some snow out of it but a full on pouring rain would definitely be a downer. I'm trying not to think about it and just focus on some light snow Sunday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 No doubt it could turn ugly... just depends on the timing of how the northern and southern stream interact. Nothing glaring on the ensembles to me to send this thing way NW though it wouldn't surprise me. The normal mets in the snow cheering section have turned anti-snow... the pattern has gotten to almost everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I don't get it either...Euro was warm and west....which is what a phased system would promote...further west and warm. It does end as snow there, but there's def rain for a good portion before that. It rips the +4C 850 line up to like Montreal during the storm and there isn't much if anything on the front end as all the cold has been advected out prior to this storm. Maybe this will buck the trend of getting warmer as we get closer, but there's really nothing in the pattern that would suggest it happens this time. Not true. Before the storm the +4 850 line gets to Montreal but during the storm it gets to BTV. Which IMO is pretty borderline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 It could certainly rip up through Syracuse like the GGEM shows but at least right now most of the models are decent or a close call for the Dacks and N VT. Even the GGEM 6 hourlies aren't that bad... it does rain a bit but we get some light front end accumulations, then sleet. QPF is relatively light with 1/4-1/2" on that solution so with the 4-5" on the ground now, plus BTV's possible Advisory Level snowfall Sunday Night/Monday, if we waste some QPF on frozen precip, the rain portion wouldn't be all that bad, followed by some upslope behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Not true. Before the storm the +4 850 line gets to Montreal but during the storm it gets to BTV. Which IMO is pretty borderline. Yeah its another situation where the NW side will have no cold air around to begin with and even where it is snow, it'll be elevation dependent. You see the greater lift move in and the H85 line collapses. Ahh whatever... I'm heading out for a few more runs. Beautiful first thing this morning with sunshine, heavy rime up high, 4-7" of snow caking the trees... it actually looks like a ski resort now and not a defunct ice skating rink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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