weatherbo Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 The NWS in Northern IN is 6 miles east of me and our snow totals are so closely the same, I use their totals as mine since I don't keep running measurements of events. IWX office has recorded 20.1" of snow this season.... Not too too bad I guess considering it's only early January, but with the warm weather so far, rain, and lack of any real snowcover, this Winter is ranking around a C-/D+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Crazy stat of the day.. I have more snow now then this time last year! 12.2 2010/11 12.8 2011/12. Im respectfully questioning your measuring skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Im respectfully questioning your measuring skills. Don't come in here with that crap. Mr. 12 and some change lol http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/31547-whats-the-most-snow-that-a-model-has-shown-for-your-backyard/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 lol.....well the actualy measurements from the city of Toronto are to low to be considered as a likely candidate. We'll average the totals out in the end from all three stations. fair enough? Downtown and North York, when they update, are fine. If you took Pearson and Buttonville alone and averaged their totals, that'd probably give you a number that's in the ballpark of what the city actually saw in a given winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I thought I'd post this in this thread for those that might like to see what it looks like when a heavy lake effect snow squall comes in off the lake: I took these with my cell phone earlier today, so they are a bit grainy ... Here is a huge ball/wall of white rolling in from the lake this morning: And then once it hits shore, this is how it looks: Sweet pics! Made it back to 30 today after starting at 8. Came close to the coldest of the season so far, which is 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 wow youve only had 1.5 inches of snow.....that is ridiculous! That's about the exact same amount I was at here on the other side of the lake until two days ago. We finally got a few inches of Lake effect. Now I'm about up to 5 inches for the season, which is still pathetic for the snowbelt. (and it looks like we will lose much of it with another warm up coming!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Great shots! Would be awesome to see that. Reminds me of my avatar which s a LE squall moving in over Buffalo. I thought I'd post this in this thread for those that might like to see what it looks like when a heavy lake effect snow squall comes in off the lake: I took these with my cell phone earlier today, so they are a bit grainy ... Here is a huge ball/wall of white rolling in from the lake this morning: And then once it hits shore, this is how it looks: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Here are some other bad ones, besides Milwaukee (1.7") and Chicago (1.9"): Moline, IL: 1.4" Bismarck, ND: 3.9" Williston, ND: Trace Minneapolis, MN: 10.3" Duluth, MN: 11.9" haha wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Im curious.....last winter, while we were in the midst of an excellent snowcover winter throughout the region (at DTW it was the best since '81-82), quite a few lamented the constant nickel and diming (pre-Feb) and said that the biggest thing to them in a winter was a storm, one massive storm could make or break a winter for them (naturally I ride the snowcover, frequent snowfall train). So Im wondering, with a horrid start to this winter, if some all-time epic historic snowstorm hits in Feb or even Mar, would that override all of these horrible weeks during the first part of winter for those folks? Just a food for thought question really, I dont even remember exactly who was saying what, just the general conversation. No way would it override the awful winter, in my opinion. I am with you on the constant snowcover bit. Growing up in southeastern PA, I always enjoyed a big, exciting snowstorm (most of the yearly snowfalls came from noreasters). However, it would warm up and melt much of the snow within the week and then one had to often wait a couple weeks for another snowfall. A bad winter in my book is one that features a lot of dull, "brown" days with no snowcover. Today is only the second day I've had an actual snowcover this entire season, which is actually worse than my experiences of snow cover in Lancaster, PA growing up. The only thing that can change my opinion of this crappy winter is if the pattern flips in mid January and continues on through February. Although Alberta Clippers aren't too exciting for many people, this area makes out great from those! While your area might only get a couple inches, lake enhancement can give us 8 to 10 inches with clippers (which happened a couple times last January!) Bring on the clippers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 -1F outside... burrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The NWS in Northern IN is 6 miles east of me and our snow totals are so closely the same, I use their totals as mine since I don't keep running measurements of events. IWX office has recorded 20.1" of snow this season.... Not too too bad I guess considering it's only early January, but with the warm weather so far, rain, and lack of any real snowcover, this Winter is ranking around a C-/D+. Yeah don't forget about the storm at the end of November that dropped nearly 10" in some spots in NE Indiana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Im curious.....last winter, while we were in the midst of an excellent snowcover winter throughout the region (at DTW it was the best since '81-82), quite a few lamented the constant nickel and diming (pre-Feb) and said that the biggest thing to them in a winter was a storm, one massive storm could make or break a winter for them (naturally I ride the snowcover, frequent snowfall train). So Im wondering, with a horrid start to this winter, if some all-time epic historic snowstorm hits in Feb or even Mar, would that override all of these horrible weeks during the first part of winter for those folks? Just a food for thought question really, I dont even remember exactly who was saying what, just the general conversation. It was a cold and dryish winter here last year but people think it was all cold and snowy since we had a 19" blizzard on Feb 1st, they don't remember it being dry before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpsycho Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Im curious.....last winter, while we were in the midst of an excellent snowcover winter throughout the region (at DTW it was the best since '81-82), quite a few lamented the constant nickel and diming (pre-Feb) and said that the biggest thing to them in a winter was a storm, one massive storm could make or break a winter for them (naturally I ride the snowcover, frequent snowfall train). So Im wondering, with a horrid start to this winter, if some all-time epic historic snowstorm hits in Feb or even Mar, would that override all of these horrible weeks during the first part of winter for those folks? Just a food for thought question really, I dont even remember exactly who was saying what, just the general conversation. Considering there are many different personalities here I am sure there are multiple answers (as you have already got). If you are a snowstorm buff: I would say an 'Massive/Epic/Historic' storm is what you are looking to get. This would be most important. If you are a winter sport buff: Snowcover and cold and would be most important. Nickle and dime are wanted as is major storms. Historic storms while great does not help if melt right away and there is not much snowcover all winter. Of course there are ones like you that will take snow no matter what. As long as it is snowing, you are happy. And of course there is 'tropical' that wishes it would never get cold and snow again. Considering many people on here talk about Jan 99 or Feb 07, both winters with really only a few weeks of winter weather, I would guess that most here would take the 'Massive/Epic/Historic' storm and then put this winter right up there. Me I am a winter sports buff. Right now we have wasted 1/3 of winter in which winter sports have been at a minimum to not at all. This winter gets a D- right now IMO. Only thing keeping it from an F is the fact parts of southern MI have lucked out including MBY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I work with a few guys who are serious snowmobile freaks. Their complaining about this winter is unmatched.. Worst part they know Im a weather geek and always asking me questions about the snow prospects. LOL I just tell them.."theres always next year" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 hey kab2791,do you remember what event that was in your avatar? oct 06?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I thought I'd post this in this thread for those that might like to see what it looks like when a heavy lake effect snow squall comes in off the lake: I took these with my cell phone earlier today, so they are a bit grainy ... Here is a huge ball/wall of white rolling in from the lake this morning: And then once it hits shore, this is how it looks: deserves another bump, nice captures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 amazing pics Trent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 This looks about right: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 From where I found the picture, I cannot find info on what event it was. hey kab2791,do you remember what event that was in your avatar? oct 06?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Sort of busted for T.City LOL Do ya think? And all those Bliz Warnings running for days all along the shoreline counties. I didn't see too many 6"+ amounts, especially in those areas. Major bustola.. Usual places scored good - Gaylord for one. Elevation, more than location creates forcing. Maybe they got a new crew up there that's not up to speed with the nuances of the region? idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The NWS in Northern IN is 6 miles east of me and our snow totals are so closely the same, I use their totals as mine since I don't keep running measurements of events. IWX office has recorded 20.1" of snow this season.... Not too too bad I guess considering it's only early January, but with the warm weather so far, rain, and lack of any real snowcover, this Winter is ranking around a C-/D+. Yeah, I agree. It's kind of wierd because I'm right at normal snowfall, but it sure doesn't seem like it. In fact Northern IN and Southern MI have been the honey hole so far SBN is now at 15", but it's almost 9" below normal, while FWA is at 14", 2.5" above normal. Usually the LES has SBN kicking butt by now. Bo, do you know how close to normal 20.1" is for IWX? It's amazing looking around the Great Lakes and seeing that many SEASONAL snowfall in the single digits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Slick event coming morning. Quadrantid meteor shower. http://www.accuweather.com/en/outdoor-articles/astronomy/quadrantid-meteor-shower/59778 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Im respectfully questioning your measuring skills. Dont forget, he is in northern Oakland county, which more or less is the snowbelt of SE MI lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Assuming we stay in this relatively snowless pattern for the remainder of the cold weather season, save for an epic, all time blizzard that drops 18"+ of snow, I could probably honestly grade this winter in the Bs somewhere. Agreed. Again, nothing beats 1/4 mile visibilities, rapid accumulations and 1"+ per hour rates for a significant period of time, except severe thunderstorms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 No way would it override the awful winter, in my opinion. I am with you on the constant snowcover bit. Growing up in southeastern PA, I always enjoyed a big, exciting snowstorm (most of the yearly snowfalls came from noreasters). However, it would warm up and melt much of the snow within the week and then one had to often wait a couple weeks for another snowfall. A bad winter in my book is one that features a lot of dull, "brown" days with no snowcover. Today is only the second day I've had an actual snowcover this entire season, which is actually worse than my experiences of snow cover in Lancaster, PA growing up. The only thing that can change my opinion of this crappy winter is if the pattern flips in mid January and continues on through February. Although Alberta Clippers aren't too exciting for many people, this area makes out great from those! While your area might only get a couple inches, lake enhancement can give us 8 to 10 inches with clippers (which happened a couple times last January!) Bring on the clippers! I like clippers too, esp when we can get into one of those clipper express patterns. The clipper of Jan 14, 2004 (4-10" in SE MI) and Jan 22, 2005 (8-14" in SE MI) were astounding in how much snow they dropped, being a clipper and all. But generally you are right, your average clipper is the 1-4" variety, with bigger lollipops, and the occasional Jan04 or Jan05 deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 amazing pics Trent! ditto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Dont forget, he is in northern Oakland county, which more or less is the snowbelt of SE MI lol. The differences versus DTW Late Nov storm 2.5" DTW 0.5" Storms Dec 27th and Dec 29th combined 3.5" I dont think DTW recorded much in that time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Dont forget, he is in northern Oakland county, which more or less is the snowbelt of SE MI lol. I'm aware of this. I'm simply busting his balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I think I actually found something uglier than this pattern: the Milwaukee Bucks offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Tuesday, January 3rd: Hi: 28F Lo: 12F Overall Sky Conditions: Partly Cloudy Max Wind Gust: 25MPH Rainfall: 0.00" Snowfall: 0.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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