weathafella Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Maybe some windows in January for some at least brief sojourns into winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Wow at the 18z gfs. Best looking run . January is going to be a great month for snow weenies. Talk about a weenie post...yeah lets base the whole month of January looking good off of the 18z gfs That said, the 18z gfs has a nice snowstorm for day 8/9 just like the 12z euro. Kind of far out but that would be a nice way to ring in the new year 1/2 to 1/3 if the new years clipper doesn't work out since it isn't looking too good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FEFD17 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I want to ask a newbie question and it's probably really dumb. I apologize in advance to everyone who is bothered by it. My question is about weather patterns and how they change or " alter" if you will. I have read some posts on here--- usually a sarcastic tone in it--- posts that say Hurricane Irene's path has screwed up our pattern and this is the product of our crap winter so far. I read others saying " pattern changer?" I guess my question is can one storm really alter the pattern for future storms? It just seems weird in the respect that, a storm and where it forms and travels to is a product of the pattern. It's just backwards to me is all. Thanks for everyones time in advance. Merry Christmas to all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Talk about a weenie post...yeah lets base the whole month of January looking good off of the 18z gfs That said, the 18z gfs has a nice snowstorm for day 8/9 just like the 12z euro. Kind of far out but that would be a nice way to ring in the new year 1/2 to 1/3 if the new years clipper doesn't work out since it isn't looking too good. I'm not the the only one so I don't know why I am being called out. Really immature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I'm not the the only one so I don't know why I am being called out. Really immature. Sorry man ...just joking around. Hey, I love reading the positive posts even if they are from the 18z gfs Hope you had the day off from CVS today. Merry Christmas dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Sorry man ...just joking around. Hey, I love reading the positive posts even if they are from the 18z gfs Hope you had the day off from CVS today. Merry Christmas dude! I requested off. No way I am working on Christmas. Merry Christmas dude, now back to the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 There is no fundamental change in sight over the next 2 weeks...if something changes it will likely be in the Jan 10-20 time frame. Climo keeps getting colder so the same pattern may give us a few more fleeting chances than it did throughout the first 3 weeks of December, but it still stinks overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 There is no fundamental change in sight over the next 2 weeks...if something changes it will likely be in the Jan 10-20 time frame. Climo keeps getting colder so the same pattern may give us a few more fleeting chances than it did throughout the first 3 weeks of December, but it still stinks overall. The PNA does seem to be getting more positive even though the high-latitude blocking remains lacking, so we may be able to benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I want to ask a newbie question and it's probably really dumb. I apologize in advance to everyone who is bothered by it. My question is about weather patterns and how they change or " alter" if you will. I have read some posts on here--- usually a sarcastic tone in it--- posts that say Hurricane Irene's path has screwed up our pattern and this is the product of our crap winter so far. I read others saying " pattern changer?" I guess my question is can one storm really alter the pattern for future storms? It just seems weird in the respect that, a storm and where it forms and travels to is a product of the pattern. It's just backwards to me is all. Thanks for everyones time in advance. Merry Christmas to all!! I can't see how one crappy TS could change it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 That day 10 Euro map actually doesn't look bad with nice west coast rdiging and if I'm not mistaken ..the NAO is trying to go negative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Would be nice to get that polar boundary south of us starting around the 30th. The euro op gives us a clipper, but the ensembles aren't as bullish with it. However, the PNA does try to go + in the 1st week of January. We may have a couple of chances if that happens. I'm at the stage now where I'll believe it when I see it, but it's the best it has looked in the day 10 time frame.We still have lower heights in AK which may act to beat down the PNA so that's why I'm at the I'll believe it when I see it mind frame. At least they have a decent Caspian ridge too. So I guess overall, I would just watch the trends since fail has ruled the roost, but it looks a little more interesting anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COPO Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 holy cow look at all those L's!! Just wish they were further south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boolean Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 here is a little hope for you... dec 1891 mean in bos was 40.5 (we should finish around 39.8 or so this year) and the following j, f and m were 28.3, 28.4 and 32.9 respectively. nothing too bitter, but respectable. keep hope alive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I wonder if the GEFS will win in the 11-15 day? They are way warmer than the euro ensembles. The pattern would argue for the GEFS unless the euro ensembles see something. We'll know in a week or so I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I wonder if the GEFS will win in the 11-15 day? They are way warmer than the euro ensembles. The pattern would argue for the GEFS unless the euro ensembles see something. We'll know in a week or so I guess. Just go with the warmest option possible for about 3 more weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Just go with the warmest option possible for about 3 more weeks. Probably. It's usually not a bad thing when the more reliable guidance looks better in the long range, but the pattern seems like it would argue for the GEFS, unless the euro stuff is seeing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I was out with the dog for a couple f hours this morning and I began to realize how bad yes winter has been. At this point, perhaps a vaca to warm places is the way to go. Dreaming of sandals....or at least for the d10 euro to verify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I was out with the dog for a couple f hours this morning and I began to realize how bad yes winter has been. At this point, perhaps a vaca to warm places is the way to go. Dreaming of sandals....or at least for the d10 euro to verify. If January is skunked and February looks lousy, I'll root for Spring wx. No point of having useless 35F days. Hopefully the tide turns a bit in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Anyone know how 1977-1978 was until Jan 20? Wasn't it pretty bad until the 2 biggies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Anyone know how 1977-1978 was until Jan 20? Wasn't it pretty bad until the 2 biggies? It was bad, but not nearly like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Anyone know how 1977-1978 was until Jan 20? Wasn't it pretty bad until the 2 biggies? Stick with 1979-80....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Vim Toot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Anyone know how 1977-1978 was until Jan 20? Wasn't it pretty bad until the 2 biggies? It was very good imby.....1.2" in Novie, 20.8" in Dec and 32.7" in Jan. No comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 It was very good imby.....1.2" in Novie, 20.8" in Dec and 32.7" in Jan. No comparison. Well, over 20" of the Jan total was probably the Jan 21 blizzard. Wasn't really trying to imply it being similar. Did not realize Dec was decent I had always thought the early part of the winter blew until Jan 21 Hopefully this can be like 2006-2007 and have a good second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Well, over 20" of the Jan total was probably the Jan 21 blizzard. Wasn't really trying to imply it being similar. Did not realize Dec was decent I had always thought the early part of the winter blew until Jan 21 Hopefully this can be like 2006-2007 and have a good second half. Jan actually featured more snow, than Feb....Feb was a snooze fest, outside of the blizzard.....cold and dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Jan actually featured more snow, than Feb....Feb was a snooze fest, outside of the blizzard.....cold and dry. You'd take that month in a heartbeat though. The greatest blizzard for SNE of the century clears it out for nothing for weeks.....would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 You'd take that month in a heartbeat though. The greatest blizzard for SNE of the century clears it out for nothing for weeks.....would be fine. No contest....just saying. If I were to nitpick, I'd want it ~50 miles to the N. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 You'd take that month in a heartbeat though. The greatest blizzard for SNE of the century clears it out for nothing for weeks.....would be fine. It wasn't as good for us (Dec anyways), but there isn't a comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 No contest....just saying. If I were to nitpick, I'd want it ~50 miles to the N. Blizzard of 78?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Jan 78 was a 40+ month here. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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