HoarfrostHubb Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Bucket list item for sure. Boys cryin for their Mommas, we got 14 inches in March in this parts. I love that MWR link, http://journals.amet...g/toc/mwre/62/2 great historical reference Mt. Washington onbly got to -46.5F in Jan of that year...lol I have a book about my town history that claims a temp of less than -40F during Feb 1934... I think that was a little off. Lowest I ever saw here was -18F in Jan 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 ABC 40 in Springfield has a year in weather special on right now with Ed Carrol and they are talking about how last year there was no snow in Springfield until Dec 26th but there was 62" between then and first week of February! We had a little less than that up here during that period but ended the year with 80" in Greenfield so hope springs eternal for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 November was brutally cold, December was brutally cold, this ain't a 1934 redux,...lol... Weak Nina 34, was just showing that the tables can turn Jerry. Downers on Jan 1 be damned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 ABC 40 in Springfield has a year in weather special on right now with Ed Carrol and they are talking about how last year there was no snow in Springfield until Dec 26th but there was 62" between then and first week of February! We had a little less than that up here during that period but ended the year with 80" in Greenfield so hope springs eternal for this year. Ahhhh...little Eddie Carrol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 heh...00z EC hits us with another shot of arctic air on Friday followed by a very muted warmup for the weekend. The GFS has different timing, but is similar with another shot of cold (not as cold as theEC) followed by a muted warmup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 As Hm says...torch fail What happened to the euro lake cutter that everyone took as gospel. Gfs wins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 As Hm says...torch fail What happened to the euro lake cutter that everyone took as gospel. Gfs wins? 6z GFS has a cutter for the weekend. Unfortunately the most likely scenario is cutter or cold, dry, suppressed storm track. Either way... boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 6z GFS has a cutter for the weekend. Unfortunately the most likely scenario is cutter or cold, dry, suppressed storm track. Either way... boring. The euro had a major cutter at 240 at 12z that vanished. As far as this weekend..it's always been a lost cause but the advertised torch has been reduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bates Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 The euro had a major cutter at 240 at 12z that vanished. As far as this weekend..it's always been a lost cause but the advertised torch has been reduced. Agree with your analysis. However, a sobering thought -- if the latest runs of the Euro and GFS reflect the long awaited "pattern change" as some are suggesting, then they can have good luck with that. Alternating bouts of cold (mostly seasonal cold at that), mild, rain, perhaps snow, and more rain is what they show. Not the blowtorch December for sure. But nothing, and I mean nothing, to write home about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 LOL ...look at the 12Z GFS for next weekend now. If it wasn't so sad it would almost be funny. Out went the idea we might set up a gradient flow and a ssw event ...and on the new run it just phases things west of us and drives another lovely rainy cutter into the lakes. Yeah it will get cold again after that. Agree with your analysis. However, a sobering thought -- if the latest runs of the Euro and GFS reflect the long awaited "pattern change" as some are suggesting, then they can have good luck with that. Alternating bouts of cold (mostly seasonal cold at that), mild, rain, perhaps snow, and more rain is what they show. Not the blowtorch December for sure. But nothing, and I mean nothing, to write home about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Agree with your analysis. However, a sobering thought -- if the latest runs of the Euro and GFS reflect the long awaited "pattern change" as some are suggesting, then they can have good luck with that. Alternating bouts of cold (mostly seasonal cold at that), mild, rain, perhaps snow, and more rain is what they show. Not the blowtorch December for sure. But nothing, and I mean nothing, to write home about. I don't know where to begin with this post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 LOL ...look at the 12Z GFS for next weekend now. If it wasn't so sad it would almost be funny. Out went the idea we might set up a gradient flow and a ssw event ...and on the new run it just phases things west of us and drives another lovely rainy cutter into the lakes. Yeah it will get cold again after that. What 12z GFS are you looking at? It's not what you described, that's for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Stealing an image posted here a week or two ago. Not much has changed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Ooops ..that new NCEP pages confuses me ..it came up on the 6Z. LOL I hope 12Z will look better when I check it out! This is kind of cool to get a model do-over. What 12z GFS are you looking at? It's not what you described, that's for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Any snowcover up there Gene? Barren muck here.... Stealing an image posted here a week or two ago. Not much has changed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Ooops ..that new NCEP pages confuses me ..it came up on the 6Z. LOL I hope 12Z will look better when I check it out! This is kind of cool to get a model do-over. It does look better, I thought you were talking about 12Z and I looked at 6Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 first really dynamic storm coming through the lakes of this season...maybe it means something...but probably not. BUF is probably going to miss out on the majority of the lake-effect, but high winds and lake shore flooding this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I think this timeframe will be a legitimate threat. (obviously not as modeled at 300+ hours out.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Any snowcover up there Gene? Barren muck here.... Rick, there is no snow at all at my elevation of 1100 feet. Down in the protected valley at the bottom of my hill there is like 1" in the shaded areas. My friends went up to Lincoln yesterday and said there was a bit more, perhaps a couple of inches but that is all. The Southern Whites are basically bare or thinly snow covered. I see Coles Pond webcam in Vermont at 2000 feet has 5" but Nashville VT webcam has only an 1-2". Unless you are near the spine of the Vermont mountains it is bare or very thinly snow covered. Weird for Jan 1! Have a great 2012! Gene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Wow... 12z GFS is really an icebox compared to where we have been this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Euro is pretty bad next week. This is a little discouraging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Euro is pretty bad next week. This is a little discouraging Took a pretty big dump but does offer a few snow chances in the gradient pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Looked like the 12z euro offered some sort of swfe in the extended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Took a pretty big dump but does offer a few snow chances in the gradient pattern. It has WAA snows at 120 then pretty meh. I would expect some run to run changes as the pattern begins to switch mid month. Not expected anything big to appear this week. Look for 1-10/1-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Looked like the 12z euro offered some sort of swfe in the extended. Any hints of the AK ridge or that PV dropping south like the 12z GFS? It might not even be in range yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Terrible run today Snowless continues thru day 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Terrible run today Snowless continues thru day 10 Its not like a threat was going to drop out of thin air within ten day range lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Kart Mozart Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 The operational runs of the euro have been consisitent with one item... the monster vortex moving off the Russian Pacific coast towards the end of the period. We have to hope this thing can re-shuffle the deck as it drifts eastward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 The next 10 days were going to stink anyways imo, so nothing new here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 The next 10 days were going to stink anyways imo, so nothing new here. Only hope is overrunning stuff maybe next week, but I wouldn't get excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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