bluewave Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 the winds in boxing day were stronger than any snowstorm since 1996, and that goes for everyone http://www.njfreeway...servations.html http://www.njfreeway...servations.html It had the strongest winds for a blizzard here since February 1978 and and April 1982. http://www.erh.noaa.gov/okx/StormEvents/storm12262010.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 the winds from boxing day were stronger than any snowstorm since 1996, and that goes for everyone http://www.njfreeway...servations.html http://www.njfreeway...servations.html i'm sorry some people got 20" instead of 25" ..We've discussed this before, it is hilarious how people downplay this storm because they didn't sit in the 30" band. JFK verified a high wind warning for 3+ hours of 40 mph sustained winds, while gusting to 55 mph in mod-hvy snow...0 Visibility...But there have been numerous far far better storms in Queens/western Long Island over the past couple of years. I know those areas will see many storms in the future that produce greater amounts, but 14-20" (conservatively) plus those winds are extremely extremely rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 ..We've discussed this before, it is hilarious how people downplay this storm because they didn't sit in the 30" band. JFK verified a high wind warning for 3+ hours of 40 mph sustained winds, whole gusting to 55 mph in mod-hvy snow...0 Visibility...But there have been numerous far far better storms in Queens/western Long Island over the past couple of years. I know those areas will see many storms in the future that produce greater amounts, but 14-20" (conservatively) plus those winds are extremely extremely rare. I can get wind in a rain storm. a thunderstorm, or after a frontal passage and had more damage and better winds from the march noreaster in 2010. Snow storms should be graded on snow first and foremost and a lot of the area outside earthlight, forky, and allsnow saw bigger totals in several other storms, including one a month later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Greatest storm I've ever been through, the dramatics/time of year/etc only added to it and put it into a league of its own. I have never seen snow come down that hard -- the winds were ferocious despite me being somewhat away from the coast -- and the banding was out of this world. I remember being on the phone with forky during a jebwalk and discussing how this was likely a once or twice in a lifetime event considering how it all transpired. One that I will certainly remember forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Greatest storm I've ever been through, the dramatics/time of year/etc only added to it and put it into a league of its own. I have never seen snow come down that hard -- the winds were ferocious despite me being somewhat away from the coast -- and the banding was out of this world. I remember being on the phone with forky during a jebwalk and discussing how this was likely a once or twice in a lifetime event considering how it all transpired. One that I will certainly remember forever. How bout some pics? Or did you post them in here already? I gotta live vicariously for this one since I got dryslotted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 ..We've discussed this before, it is hilarious how people downplay this storm because they didn't sit in the 30" band. JFK verified a high wind warning for 3+ hours of 40 mph sustained winds, whole gusting to 55 mph in mod-hvy snow...0 Visibility...But there have been numerous far far better storms in Queens/western Long Island over the past couple of years. I know those areas will see many storms in the future that produce greater amounts, but 14-20" (conservatively) plus those winds are extremely extremely rare. Yea seriously...i said the combination was what made it great, places on long island (suffolk county) that got less than 18 inches instead saw winds near 60, i think there were gusts over 65 on the south shore, bayport i think...it was the combination, but i still think 1996 was better, long island did get higher amounts, i think only central park got less?? Boxing Day Im pretty sure most of nassau county saw between 16-22, cant trust that JFK reading, but the snow drifts were much bigger than 1996 i think. During my jeb walk the best part was the wind, 2 feet of snow without wind is not as good as 1 foot with 60 mph winds IMHO. I will never forget standing in the middle of town when one of those gusts came through, it was a pure whiteout in the middle of nassau county. My fiance was worried i was gone so long, the wind was just unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I can get wind in a rain storm. a thunderstorm, or after a frontal passage and had more damage and better winds from the march noreaster in 2010. Snow storms should be graded on snow first and foremost and a lot of the area outside earthlight, forky, and allsnow saw bigger totals in several other storms, including one a month later. Its not about the damage its about the white out conditions. Maybe where you live you have never experienced a true whiteout, but boxing day was the only time in my life i have seen a true whiteout and ground blizzard. I am not talking about zero visibility, im talking 50 mph winds where all the snow in the area whips into the air and you cant see anything. Again zero visibility from heavy snow falling is not a whiteout, im talking about virtual dust devils swirling the snow all around you. Very intense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I can get wind in a rain storm. a thunderstorm, or after a frontal passage and had more damage and better winds from the march noreaster in 2010. Snow storms should be graded on snow first and foremost and a lot of the area outside earthlight, forky, and allsnow saw bigger totals in several other storms, including one a month later. To each his own preference, but from a meteorological aspect, societal impact combined with the SNOWfall amounts and WIND that transpired of course...it was just an extremely rare and memorable event... If you ask 99% of the public about January 26-27, 2011, they will not remember that at all. You ask them about Boxing Day and you know they will remember it next year, 15 years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 To each his own preference, but from a meteorological aspect, societal impact combined with the snowfall amounts that transpired of course...it was just an extremely rare and memorable event... If you ask 99% of the public about January 26-27, 2011, they will not remember that at all. You ask them about Boxing Day and you know they will remember it next year, 15 years from now. In all fairness, boxing day was called a blizzard and 1/27 was a complete surprise event with no hype. Boxing day also paralyzed the city, 1/27 did not...So boxing day will be remembered also for the chaos and the hype, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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earthlight Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 .SHORT TERM /6 AM SUNDAY MORNING THROUGH TUESDAY/... NO CHANGES TO THE BLIZZARD OR WINTER STORM WARNING OR THE SNOW AMOUNTS BASED ON THE 18Z MODEL RUNS. AMOUNTS STILL EXPECTED AT AROUND A FOOT...GIVE OR TAKE A FEW INCHES (PLUS BLOWING AND DRIFTING WILL MAKE FOR GREAT DIFFICULTY IN MEASURING). SOME OF THE 18Z DATA IS RATHER CONCERNING. GFS IS SUGGESTING 60+ KT AT 500 FT AND UP TO 90 KT AT 2000` (KLGA BUFKIT AT 03Z). WE COULD VERY WELL SEE WIND GUSTS OVER 50 KT RESULTING IN SOME SIGNIFICANT POWER OUTAGES. MEDIA...PLEASE RELAY THE WIND IMPACTS WITH THIS STORM - RESIDENTS SHOULD SECURE THE HOLIDAY DECORATIONS AND OTHER LOOSE OBJECTS....ETC. THIS IS NOT JUST ANOTHER SNOW STORM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Seriously. LI has had 4-5 better storms in the past 10 years, then Boxing day. Snow amounts wise. And 2 of them were in the past 3 years. Notable snowstorms at the NWS Office at Upton, L.I. this century: Dec. 20, 2009: 26.3" Feb. 16. 2003: 21.1" Dec. 5, 2003: 19.8" Dec . 26, 2010: 18.8" Jan. 23, 2005: 17.5" March 5, 2001: 14.2" Jan. 11, 2011: 14.1" March 2, 2009: 14.0" Feb. 11, 2006: 13.9" Feb. 10, 2010: 13.4" Jan. 27, 2011: 13.3" Feb. 26, 2010: 10.4" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 In all fairness, boxing day was called a blizzard and 1/27 was a complete surprise event with no hype. Boxing day also paralyzed the city, 1/27 did not...So boxing day will be remembered also for the chaos and the hype, etc It is also the only storm in at least the past 30 years I believe (maybe 1978 was the last one) that actually verified the true definition of a blizzard for multiple stations in the NYC area. '96 didnt do this for any station in the area except for Trenton. By the way, 96 is still number 1 in my book...Boxing Day is my number 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Jan 26-27, 2011 had winds past 50mph, more lightning and thunder then Boxing day and for the NYC boroughs and Nassau County, more prolific snowfall and snowfall rates. Most here and especially the public were sleeping during the insane snow and wind bands that cane through from 12am through 4am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 THIS IS NOT JUST ANOTHER SNOW STORM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 It is also the only storm in at least the past 30 years I believe (maybe 1978 was the last one) that actually verified the true definition of a blizzard for multiple stations in the NYC area. '96 didnt do this for any station in the area except for Trenton. By the way, 96 is still number 1 in my book...Boxing Day is my number 2 I *think* Islip met the criteria for that in '96...and maybe a couple of others, too...will double check. Islip made blizzard criteria in the January 2005 event... http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KISP/2005/1/23/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA And look at the obs (per the diligent research of Board Member NorthShoreWx) found with regards to the 2/6/78 event at Islip (particularly between 10 AM and 10PM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Total bummer to look at all this stuff given where we are now. What a week that was with the entire crew on this forum. That is probably one of the only snowstorms I think we've watched from 250+hrs that actually came to fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Jan 26-27, 2011 had winds past 50mph, more lightning and thunder then Boxing day and for the NYC boroughs and Nassau County, more prolific snowfall and snowfall rates. Most here and especially the public were sleeping during the insane snow and wind bands that cane through from 12am through 4am. Winds in Boxing day . ***********************PEAK WIND GUST*********************** LOCATION MAX WIND TIME/DATE COMMENTS GUST OF MPH MEASUREMENT CONNECTICUT ...FAIRFIELD COUNTY... BRIDGEPORT AIRPORT 60 921 PM 12/26 ASOS DANBURY 60 1031 PM 12/26 ASOS GREENWICH 60 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER ...NEW HAVEN COUNTY... NEW HAVEN 60 1201 AM 12/27 ASOS MERIDEN 54 1147 PM 12/26 ASOS OXFORD 52 1035 PM 12/26 MESONET MOMAUGUIN 40 1144 PM 12/26 MESONET ...NEW LONDON COUNTY... NEW LONDON 68 115 AM 12/27 MESONET GALES FERRY 59 814 AM 12/27 PUBLIC GROTON 59 1126 PM 12/26 ASOS NEW JERSEY ...BERGEN COUNTY... OAKLAND 40 730 AM 12/27 PUBLIC BERGENFIELD 40 300 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER ...ESSEX COUNTY... CALDWELL 35 812 PM 12/26 ASOS NEW YORK ...BRONX COUNTY... PARKCHESTER 53 1140 AM 12/27 PUBLIC ...NASSAU COUNTY... BAYVILLE 68 1037 PM 12/26 MESONET SEAFORD 59 1200 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER KINGS POINT 59 1142 PM 12/26 MESONET FARMINGDALE 52 835 PM 12/26 ASOS CARLE PLACE 41 1200 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER ...NEW YORK COUNTY... CENTRAL PARK 36 944 PM 12/26 ASOS ...ORANGE COUNTY... MIDDLETOWN 54 630 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER MONROE 50 1200 AM 12/27 PUBLIC MONTGOMERY 36 445 AM 12/27 ASOS ...QUEENS COUNTY... 1 W NYC/JFK AIRPORT 59 954 PM 12/26 ASOS NYC/LA GUARDIA 55 952 PM 12/26 ASOS BREEZY POINT 48 1040 PM 12/26 MESONET ...ROCKLAND COUNTY... TAPPAN 52 933 PM 12/26 MESONET ...SUFFOLK COUNTY... PATCHOGUE 70 910 PM 12/26 PUBLIC ISLIP AIRPORT 64 910 PM 12/26 ASOS SHINNECOCK HILLS 62 838 PM 12/26 MESONET MOUNT SINAI 60 1245 AM 12/27 NWS EMPLOYEE GILGO BEACH 60 1045 PM 12/26 MESONET WESTHAMPTON 56 1053 PM 12/26 ASOS MONTAUK 55 1124 PM 12/26 ASOS SHIRLEY 55 1030 PM 12/26 ASOS EAST MORICHES 54 920 PM 12/26 MESONET MECOX 53 1040 PM 12/26 MESONET FISHERS ISLAND 52 125 AM 12/27 MESONET BLUE POINT 50 900 PM 12/26 MESONET ORIENT 50 1230 AM 12/27 PUBLIC BRIDGEHAMPTON 50 800 PM 12/26 CO-OP OBSERVER LINDENHURST 47 546 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER ...WESTCHESTER COUNTY... WHITE PLAINS 67 121 AM 12/27 ASOS HASTINGS-ON-HUDSON 63 930 PM 12/26 PUBLIC LARCHMONT 50 950 PM 12/26 MESONET CROTON FALLS 47 1115 PM 12/26 MESONET Higher winds than Irene... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 the winds from boxing day were stronger than any snowstorm since 1996, and that goes for everyone http://www.njfreeway...servations.html http://www.njfreeway...servations.html i'm sorry some people got 20" instead of 25" Lga had 14" from boxing day as did most of Queens and LI. We aren't talking about NJ. For your area only 1996 can compete. Jan. 26-27, 2011 had 17"-20" for these same areas. Sanitation was superb for this storm after the embarassment of Boxing Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Lga had 14" from boxing day as did most of Queens and LI. We aren't talking about NJ. For your area only 1996 can compete. Jan. 26-27, 2011 had 17"-20" for these same areas. Sanitation was superb for this storm after the embarassment of Boxing Day. NEW YORK ...BRONX COUNTY... BEDFORD PARK 23.7 830 AM 12/27 PUBLIC SOUNDVIEW PARK HOMES 22.5 800 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER BRONX 20.9 1200 PM 12/27 PUBLIC - BRONX ZOO WEST FARMS 20.5 1000 AM 12/27 PUBLIC EASTCHESTER 20.0 925 AM 12/27 PUBLIC RIVERDALE 19.4 840 AM 12/27 PUBLIC PELHAM BAY 17.2 840 AM 12/27 PUBLIC EAST TREMONT 16.0 800 AM 12/27 PUBLIC PARKCHESTER 15.7 840 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER ...KINGS COUNTY... BROOKLYN 24.5 800 AM 12/27 PUBLIC MARINE PARK 24.5 800 AM 12/27 PUBLIC SHEEPSHEAD BAY 24.0 700 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER ...NASSAU COUNTY... NORTH MASSAPEQUA 23.5 1200 PM 12/27 PUBLIC WANTAGH 22.0 1100 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER LEVITTOWN 21.9 119 PM 12/27 PUBLIC OLD BETHPAGE 20.5 907 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER PLAINVIEW 20.5 1200 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER WOODMERE 19.4 950 AM 12/27 PUBLIC CARLE PLACE 18.2 1200 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER FARMINGDALE 18.0 1030 AM 12/27 PUBLIC FLORAL PARK 18.0 1000 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER NEW HYDE PARK 16.8 200 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER GARDEN CITY 16.7 930 AM 12/27 PUBLIC BELLMORE 16.4 1200 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER VALLEY STREAM 16.0 1150 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER BALDWIN HARBOR 16.0 800 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER LONG BEACH 16.0 245 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER SEAFORD 15.5 800 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER WEST HEMPSTEAD 12.5 800 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER GLEN COVE 12.0 1200 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER ...NEW YORK COUNTY... CENTRAL PARK 20.0 700 AM 12/27 CENTRAL PARK ZOO ...ORANGE COUNTY... HARRIMAN 26.0 630 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER MONROE 26.0 1000 AM 12/27 PUBLIC TUXEDO PARK 26.0 255 AM 12/27 PUBLIC HIGHLAND MILLS 25.0 915 AM 12/27 PUBLIC WASHINGTONVILLE 22.0 1043 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER MOUNTAIN LODGE PARK 22.0 1121 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER CORNWALL ON HUDSON 18.0 1130 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER MONTGOMERY 18.0 1100 AM 12/27 PUBLIC NEW WINDSOR 17.5 745 AM 12/27 PUBLIC GOSHEN 17.5 900 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER NEWBURGH 16.5 900 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER WARWICK 14.0 1011 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER MIDDLETOWN 13.0 1020 AM 12/27 PUBLIC ...PUTNAM COUNTY... COLD SPRING 17.0 730 AM 12/27 PUBLIC LAKE CARMEL 13.5 940 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER MAHOPAC 12.5 100 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER ...QUEENS COUNTY... MIDDLE VILLAGE 21.5 1250 PM 12/27 PUBLIC FLUSHING 21.0 207 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER BAYSIDE 20.5 1200 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER HOWARD BEACH 18.0 200 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER RICHMOND HILL 18.0 1200 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER ASTORIA 16.1 801 AM 12/27 PUBLIC FRESH MEADOWS 16.0 1000 AM 12/27 PUBLIC JFK AIRPORT 15.6 700 AM 12/27 FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER LA GUARDIA AIRPORT 14.0 700 AM 12/27 FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER WOODSIDE 14.0 645 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER ...RICHMOND COUNTY... GREAT KILLS 29.0 900 AM 12/27 PUBLIC WESTERLEIGH 26.0 500 AM 12/27 PUBLIC ELTINGVILLE 22.0 800 AM 12/27 PUBLIC STATEN ISLAND 17.8 800 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER ...ROCKLAND COUNTY... TALLMAN 24.0 1055 AM 12/27 PUBLIC WEST HAVERSTRAW 21.0 130 PM 12/27 PUBLIC ...SUFFOLK COUNTY... UPTON 18.8 100 PM 12/27 NWS OFFICE NORTH BABYLON 18.5 845 AM 12/27 PUBLIC PATCHOGUE 17.0 900 AM 12/27 PUBLIC CENTEREACH 17.0 930 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER WEST ISLIP 16.0 1215 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER EAST NORTHPORT 15.5 715 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER SOUND BEACH 15.5 1200 PM 12/27 NWS EMPLOYEE NORTHPORT 15.2 138 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER CENTERPORT 15.0 650 AM 12/27 COOP-OBSERVER BLUE POINT 15.0 1100 AM 12/27 PUBLIC EAST SETAUKET 15.0 715 AM 12/27 PUBLIC MOUNT SINAI 14.2 1255 PM 12/27 NWS EMPLOYEE ISLIP AIRPORT 14.2 100 PM 12/27 FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER QUOGUE 14.0 1100 AM 12/27 PUBLIC SHOREHAM 14.0 900 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER SAYVILLE 14.0 1000 AM 12/27 PUBLIC HOLBROOK 12.5 900 AM 12/27 PUBLIC BAITING HOLLOW 12.0 145 PM 12/27 PUBLIC SMITHTOWN 11.5 1000 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER PORT JEFFERSON 11.0 800 AM 12/27 PUBLIC DIX HILLS 10.7 900 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER FLANDERS 10.0 620 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER ORIENT 10.0 1230 AM 12/27 PUBLIC STONY BROOK 7.3 1000 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER MATTITUCK 6.0 1100 AM 12/27 CO-OP OBSERVER ...WESTCHESTER COUNTY... LARCHMONT 22.0 940 AM 12/27 PUBLIC SCARSDALE 22.0 915 AM 12/27 PUBLIC BRONXVILLE 22.0 935 AM 12/27 PUBLIC MOUNT VERNON 22.0 940 AM 12/27 PUBLIC ARMONK 20.0 900 AM 12/27 PUBLIC YONKERS 19.5 800 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER HASTINGS-ON-HUDSON 18.0 930 AM 12/27 PUBLIC BRIARCLIFF MANOR 13.1 810 AM 12/27 PUBLIC DUDE...14 inches??????? How about you look at the data man, you are way way way off!! Nassau County had many areas close to 2 feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I only wish it was 1 year ago right now...**** was about to hit the fan!! My discussion from Christmas Morning last year... Major snowstorm on the way with blizzard conditions likely And my update Christmas evening... Blizzard to produce downright dangerous conditions across the area Sunday PM Just a quick update on things as everything from the post on Christmas morning with my snow map remains. The storm is beginning to rapidly deepen across the Florida coast as of 1AM and is turning the corner to head up the coast. It already looks very impressive and is even a little stronger than forecasted by the models for this time. Periods of light snow are sporadically breaking out across particularly southern NJ and this should continue into the night. It will become steady by mid-morning and then the heavy stuff works in by 2PM this afternoon. As we head through the afternoon the winds are going to really pick up as this storm explodes offshore. The dynamics with this storm look to be incredible and I expect a superband of snow may set up somewhere across the area to produce a 20" total. Snowfall rates of 2-4" /hr and thundersnow will be possible with these heavy bands into the overnight period. Beginning around the evening and nightime period is when the winds may get extremely impressive/possibly damaging especially across coastal NJ, NYC and east across Long Island. Models are hinting that 50-60 MPH gusts could mix down to the surface in combination with the heavy snow, which would create a true whiteout. This wind potential is a big concern as driving will be impossible and power outages may occur. Bring in any loose Christmas decorations and find a few flashlights just in case. These conditions could very well end up being as bad as they get around here for a few hours on Sunday night. All of NYC metro including NE NJ and Long Island are currently under a Blizzard Warning from the Upton NY National Weather Service. I expect the Mount Holly NJ weather office will upgrade coastal NJ from a Winter Storm Warning to a Blizzard Warning by the morning. The heavy snow will begin to taper down by around 4AM on Monday but strong winds and lighter snow will continue into mid-morning. Extensive blowing and drifting will occur through the day on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Lga had 14" from boxing day as did most of Queens and LI. We aren't talking about NJ. For your area only 1996 can compete. Jan. 26-27, 2011 had 17"-20" for these same areas. Sanitation was superb for this storm after the embarassment of Boxing Day. Its honestly astounding how off you are with your numbers. I dont get your point? Most areas in nassau had more with boxing day, a simple check of the data would show that your numbers are way off. with all due respect, since normally you are a great poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Lga had 14" from boxing day as did most of Queens and LI. We aren't talking about NJ. For your area only 1996 can compete. Jan. 26-27, 2011 had 17"-20" for these same areas. Sanitation was superb for this storm after the embarassment of Boxing Day. We all know how difficult it was to measure snow in that storm, LGA airport and JFK ( ) were no exception to that...The JFK measurement is a disgrace in my opinion, but I guess when its 0 vis and 60 mph winds you get a pass on an inaccurate measurement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 the drifts looked like tsunami waves of snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 January 27 results...less than Boxing day. NASSAU COUNTY... PLAINVIEW 18.0 800 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER NEW HYDE PARK 17.9 759 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER FLORAL PARK 17.5 900 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER CARLE PLACE 17.1 800 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER VALLEY STREAM 17.0 700 AM 1/27 PUBLIC WOODMERE 16.4 1000 AM 1/27 PUBLIC GARDEN CITY SOUTH 16.0 800 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER LONG BEACH 15.9 600 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER BETHPAGE 15.5 600 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER GARDEN CITY 14.8 600 AM 1/27 PUBLIC MERRICK 14.2 700 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER SYOSSET 14.0 400 AM 1/27 NWS EMPLOYEE LEVITTOWN 14.0 545 AM 1/27 PUBLIC NORTH MASSAPEQUA 13.5 800 AM 1/27 PUBLIC EAST ROCKAWAY 13.0 800 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER BELLMORE 13.0 800 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER LIDO BEACH 12.5 830 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER MASSAPEQUA 12.0 800 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER OCEANSIDE 12.0 600 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER SEAFORD 11.7 800 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER NORTH MERRICK 11.0 845 AM 1/27 PUBLIC BALDWIN HARBOR 9.2 600 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER ...NEW YORK COUNTY... CENTRAL PARK 19.0 630 AM 1/27 CENTRAL PARK ZOO NEW YORK 15.0 800 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER ...ORANGE COUNTY... MONROE 10.5 830 AM 1/27 PUBLIC TUXEDO PARK 10.0 915 AM 1/27 PUBLIC HARRIMAN 9.5 600 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER 2 SE MONROE 8.3 800 AM 1/27 COCORAHS NEW WINDSOR 7.2 630 AM 1/27 PUBLIC MOUNTAIN LODGE PARK 7.0 1035 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER 1 NNW CORNWALL ON HU 6.5 700 AM 1/27 COCORAHS SOUTH BLOOMING GROVE 6.5 927 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER WARWICK 6.5 745 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER FLORIDA 6.5 830 AM 1/27 PUBLIC NEWBURGH 5.0 800 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER GOSHEN 5.0 647 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER MIDDLETOWN 5.0 1040 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER MOUNT HOPE 4.3 830 AM 1/27 PUBLIC ...PUTNAM COUNTY... LAKE CARMEL 13.5 812 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER MAHOPAC 11.0 900 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER 4 ESE BEACON 8.5 700 AM 1/27 COCORAHS 8 NE COLD SPRINGS 8.0 700 AM 1/27 COCORAHS ...QUEENS COUNTY... WHITESTONE 18.5 700 AM 1/27 PUBLIC ASTORIA 18.5 745 AM 1/27 PUBLIC REGO PARK 18.0 745 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER BAYSIDE 17.3 800 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER NYC/LA GUARDIA 17.3 615 AM 1/27 FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER RICHMOND HILL 17.0 900 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER WOODSIDE 16.0 600 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER HOWARD BEACH 16.0 700 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER NYC/JFK AIRPORT 10.3 615 AM 1/27 FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER ...RICHMOND COUNTY... GREAT KILLS 20.0 1000 AM 1/27 PUBLIC ELTINGVILLE 18.0 800 AM 1/27 PUBLIC STATEN ISLAND 15.0 500 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER ...ROCKLAND COUNTY... NEW HEMPSTEAD 8.0 730 AM 1/27 PUBLIC STONY POINT 7.6 624 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER ...SUFFOLK COUNTY... HUNTINGTON STATION 18.3 248 PM 1/27 OBSERVER EAST NORTHPORT 17.5 110 PM 1/27 PUBLIC NORTHPORT 16.5 600 AM 1/27 PUBLIC CENTERPORT 16.5 600 AM 1/27 COOP OBSERVER COMMACK 15.7 430 AM 1/27 PUBLIC EAST SETAUKET 15.5 510 AM 1/27 PUBLIC MEDFORD 15.4 700 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER MELVILLE 15.0 800 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER 2 NNE NORTHPORT 14.8 600 AM 1/27 COCORAHS SMITHTOWN 14.5 1000 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER PORT JEFFERSON 14.0 630 AM 1/27 PUBLIC ISLIP AIRPORT 13.7 700 AM 1/27 FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER SHOREHAM 13.7 625 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER NORTH BABYLON 13.5 615 AM 1/27 PUBLIC DEER PARK 13.3 900 AM 1/27 PUBLIC UPTON 13.3 700 AM 1/27 NWS OFFICE STONY BROOK 13.1 1100 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER NORTH PATCHOGUE 13.0 700 AM 1/27 PUBLIC MOUNT SINAI 12.4 600 AM 1/27 PUBLIC LAKE RONKONKOMA 12.3 800 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER SOUND BEACH 12.1 630 AM 1/27 NWS EMPLOYEE SAYVILLE 12.0 300 PM 1/27 PUBLIC PATCHOGUE 12.0 620 AM 1/27 NWS EMPLOYEE CENTEREACH 12.0 730 AM 1/27 NWS EMPLOYEE HOLBROOK 11.3 600 AM 1/27 PUBLIC BAITING HOLLOW 11.0 100 PM 1/27 PUBLIC 1 SSW JAMESPORT 11.0 900 AM 1/27 COCORAHS LINDENHURST 10.9 540 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER AMITYVILLE 10.5 1050 AM 1/27 PUBLIC BABYLON 10.3 717 AM 1/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER RIVERHEAD 9.2 730 AM 1/27 NWS EMPLOYEE MATTITUCK 8.5 900 AM 1/27 NWS COOP SOUTHAMPTON 8.0 935 AM 1/27 PUBLIC BRIDGEHAMPTON 7.0 800 AM 1/27 COOP OBSERVER Western Queens had more january 27th, but that is about it, Western Queens and Western Suffolk.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 We all know how difficult it was to measure snow in that storm, LGA airport and JFK ( ) were no exception to that...The JFK measurement is a disgrace in my opinion, but I guess when its 0 vis and 60 mph winds you get a pass on an inaccurate measurement. I measured 14" from several measurements in Astoria. At work in Bayside, it was 18"-20", only a few miles east of LGA. Overall, Boxing day is the better storm, but not for everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I *think* Islip met the criteria for that in '96...and maybe a couple of others, too...will double check. Islip made blizzard criteria in the January 2005 event... http://www.wundergro...eq_statename=NA And look at the obs (per the diligent research of Board Member NorthShoreWx) found with regards to the 2/6/78 event at Islip (particularly between 10 AM and 10PM) You could very well be correct there.. I'm almost positive no METAR stations in the city and west through NJ met the criteria besides TTN though. I know we met it where I lived in Holmdel, NJ..we do very well with winds in any nor-easter over here (Even PDII might have met/came close to blizzard as well for us)...but the winds/hvy snow combo in Boxing Day out-dueled probably any and all storms in the past few decades... Awesome obs from the 78 storm by the way...Looks very similar to Boxing Day, perhaps a bit longer with the 0 vis obs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I measured 14" from several measurements in Astoria. At work in Bayside, it was 18"-20", only a few miles east of LGA. Overall, Boxing day is the better storm, but not for everybody. What is amazing is how well brooklyn did, never seen a storm where brooklyn recorded 10 inches more than LGA and the highest amounts on LI proper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 ARW Model.... QPF was spot on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 And even after Boxing Day... *MONTHLY SNOWFALL RECORDS****************** ...SNOWIEST JANUARY ON RECORD... ...CLIMATE SITE... ...OLD RECORD... ...JANUARY 2011 TOTAL*... CENTRAL PARK 27.4 INCHES (1925) 36.0 INCHES NEWARK 31.6 INCHES (1996) 37.3 INCHES LAGUARDIA 27.6 INCHES (1996) 32.4 INCHES BRIDGEPORT 26.2 INCHES (1965) 41.8 INCHES ISLIP 21.5 INCHES (2005) 34.2 INCHES *MONTHLY SNOWFALL TOTALS AS OF 7 AM JANUARY 27 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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