David Reimer Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Having chased a lot of cold season events last winter out east, I've come to recognize that 3 KM CAPE is pretty important when determining the tornado potential in cool season events. We don't need a lot of instability to get mini-supercells going with low level circulations. This is a pretty concerning graphic and actually represents a 3 KM CAPE value I would expect to see in spring events. As is normally the case with winter events, the incoming system is quite amplified and certainly will have enough wind shear to support organized convection. I am seeing that the 12Z NAM does have the LLJ a bit displaced to the east of the primary instability axis, but I'm thinking that may have something to do with convective feedback as the NAM has a line of convection along/west of the LLJ. I'm not expecting a major event, unless we get more instability then forecasted, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a few mini supercells take off. I'm carefully watching this and am planning to chase on Monday. Here's a great discussion from Fort Worth written earlier this morning. LARGE UPPER LEVEL LOW NEAR SAN DIEGO WILL BEGIN TO HEAD EASTDURING THE DAY AND WILL TRACK ACROSS THE TEXAS PANHANDLE MONDAY EVENING BEFORE CURLING NORTH INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS ON TUESDAY. THIS WILL BE A POWERFUL STORM SYSTEM...BRINGING HEAVY SNOW FROM THE PANHANDLE INTO KANSAS...AND A ROUND OF POSSIBLY SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR TORNADOES IN OUR AREA. FOR TODAY...MID LEVEL CLOUDS WILL BE INCREASING ACROSS THE REGION FROM THE SOUTHWEST AS ISENTROPIC LIFT BEGINS TO ORGANIZE. HIGHS WILL BE NEAR 60 DESPITE THE LACK OF SUNSHINE AS SOUTHERLY WINDS BRING WARMER AIR NORTHWARD. SATURATION OF THE LOW LEVELS OCCURS TONIGHT...WITH SOME WEAK SHOWERS BY DAYBREAK MAINLY WEST OF I-35. WIND SPEEDS THROUGH THE ENTIRE COLUMN INCREASE DRAMATICALLY ON MONDAY AS THE UPPER LOW EDGES CLOSER. VERY HIGH VALUES OF SHEAR ARE EXPECTED WITH 0-6KM SHEAR OF 55KT...0-1KM SHEAR OF 35KT AND 0-3KM HELICITY EXCEEDING 500M2/S2. 850MB WINDS ARE ALSO DUE SOUTHERLY...WHICH IS MORE BACKED THAN NORMAL. THIS SHOULD ALLOW FOR EXCELLENT TRANSPORT OF MOISTURE/WARM AIR NORTHWARD AND A RAPID MODIFICATION OF OUR AIR MASS DURING THE DAY. THE NAM/HI-RES WRF ARE FAVORED FOR INSTABILITY FORECASTS AS THEIR SURFACE TEMPS APPEAR MOST REASONABLE. ALTHOUGH CAPE LIKELY WILL NOT EXCEED 1000 J/KG...IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT 100-300J/KG OF THE TOTAL CAPE IS LOCATED BELOW 3KM DUE TO LFC OCCURRING WITHIN 1KM OF THE GROUND. THIS SYSTEM HAS SOME SIMILARITIES TO THE DECEMBER 29 2006 SYSTEM THAT PRODUCED 2 DOZEN TORNADOES OVER OUR AREA. THE 2006 SYSTEM WAS A LITTLE BIT STRONGER AT 500 MB...TRACKED FARTHER SOUTH...AND THE SURFACE LOW AND WARM FRONT WERE ALSO FARTHER SOUTH. I DONT EXPECT A SEVERE WEATHER EVENT OF THAT CALIBER THIS TIME AROUND...BUT THERE ARE ENOUGH SIMILARITIES THAT IT RAISES THE CONCERN FOR TORNADOES DESPITE MANY MODEL FORECASTS SAYING THE INSTABILITY WILL BE LIMITED. THE MODELS IN 2006 ALSO UNDERPLAYED THE INSTABILITY AND THIS TIME WE WILL BE A LITTLE MORE WARY. SINCE IT IS DECEMBER AND SEVERE WEATHER IS NOT USUALLY ON PEOPLES MIND...WE ARE GOING TO ADVERTISE THE THREAT NOW DESPITE LOWER THAN NORMAL CONFIDENCE. THE 2006 CASE HAD NUMEROUS DISCRETE SUPERCELLS AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT...AND I DONT EXPECT THAT THIS TIME AROUND. EXPECT MOST OF THE CONVECTION TO DEVELOP ALONG A NORTH-SOUTH ORIENTED COLD FRONT WHICH SHOULD MOVE INTO THE WESTERN CWA BY 3 PM. A SOLID SQUALL LINE SHOULD DEVELOP ALONG THE FRONT...AND REACH THE I-35 CORRIDOR AROUND 6PM MONDAY. STORM MOTION AT 45KT MEANS ANY STORM WILL HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR WIND DAMAGE DUE TO DOWNWARD MOMENTUM TRANSPORT OF 55KT 850MB WINDS. TORNADO THREAT WILL BE LIMITED BY THE STORM MODE BEING MAINLY LINEAR...BUT WILL BE POSSIBLE DUE TO THE HIGH LOW LEVEL SHEAR AND CAPE. TORNADO THREAT IS HIGHEST SOUTH OF A GOLDTHWAITE...HILLSBORO...ATHENS LINE WHERE INSTABILITY PARAMETERS ARE GREATEST. SQUALL LINE SHOULD CLEAR THE CWA BY 2 AM TUESDAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 NAM has increased the SBCAPE over the past few runs, which has been a common trend with models for these events lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 Afternoon discussion from FWD .DISCUSSION... 12Z UPPER AIR ANALYSIS INDICATED THAT A CUT OFF LOW REMAINED IN PLACE OVER FAR SOUTHERN CA WITH RIDGING OVER THE GULF OF MEXICO. THIS LEFT SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS OUT AHEAD OF THE UPPER LOW. SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT HAD LED TO THE ADVECTION OF STEEP LAPSE RATES INTO WEST TX THIS MORNING WITH A TEMPERATURE DIFFERENCE IN THE H700 TO H500 LAYER OF 22 DEG C. A POOL OF 10 DEG C DEW POINTS WAS OBSERVED AT THE H850 LEVEL OVER FAR SOUTH TX AND THE EFFECTS OF LEE SIDE CYCLOGENESIS WERE BECOMING EVIDENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A CYCLONIC CIRCULATION OVER FAR WEST TX. 21Z SFC ANALYSIS INDICATED THAT A MOISTURE WAS RAPIDLY RETURNING TO WESTERN AND CENTRAL TX WITH 45 DEG F DEW POINTS OBSERVED AS VAR NORTH AS CHILDRESS. TONIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY...AFTERNOON WATER VAPOR IMAGERY INDICATED THAT THE CUT OFF LOW AS ALREADY BEGINNING TO MOVE EAST AND THE CENTER OF CIRCULATION HAD JUST CROSSED OVER THE SOUTHERN AZ BORDER AS OF 21Z. A PLUME OF PACIFIC MOISTURE HAS ALREADY BEEN ADVECTED OVER MUCH OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...AND SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT CONTINUES THIS TRANSPORT OF MID TO UPPER TROPOSPHERIC MOISTURE INTO THE REGION. THE PROGRESSION OF SURFACE DEW POINTS WAS THE MOST INTERESTING PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT COULD BE OBSERVED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL THERMODYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT THIS AFTERNOON AHEAD OF THIS UPPER LOW. BASED ON 12Z GUIDANCE...THE NAM WAS THE ONLY MODEL TO SUFFICIENTLY HANDLE THE RAPID INFLUX OF LOW LEVEL MOISTURE INTO TX. THE NAM HAD ROUGHLY AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF 21Z DEW POINTS ACROSS TX WITH THE GFS LAGGING BEHIND BY 6 HRS AND THE ECMWF COMING IN A FEW DEG F TOO LOW FOR ITS 00Z FORECAST THIS EVENING. EVEN THE 18Z INITIALIZATION OF THE RUC IS SLOW ON THIS MOISTURE TRANSPORT WHICH POINTS TO A POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT SOURCE OF ERROR WITH REGARDS TO HANDLING THE THERMODYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT THAT WILL SET UP OVER NORTH TX TOMORROW. DID NOT CHANGE MUCH WITH REGARDS TO THE TIMING OF EXPECTED PRECIPITATION ACROSS NORTH TX WITH THIS FORECAST PACKAGE. THE UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM AND ASSOCIATED FRONTAL BOUNDARIES ARE EXPECTED TO MOVE THRU NORTH TX AT ROUGHLY THE SAME TIME AS THE PREVIOUS FORECAST INDICATED. THE UPPER LOW IS EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS TOMORROW EVENING AND THEN BECOME NEGATIVELY TILTED AS IT MOVES NORTHEAST OVER NORTH CENTRAL TX AND OVER OK MONDAY NIGHT. STRONG LARGE SCALE FORCING FOR ASCENT WILL SPREAD OVER NORTH TX AHEAD OF THIS UPPER LOW...WITH MAXIMUM ASCENT SPREADING OVER THE FORECAST AREA FROM 21Z MONDAY TO 06Z TUESDAY. THE FORECAST STRENGTH OF THE UPPER LOW AS IT MOVES OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS IS HIGH WITH H500 HEIGHTS REGISTERING AS A -2.5 STANDARD DEVIATION ANOMALY PER HPCS ANALYSIS OF THE 12Z GFS. PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES CONTINUE TO BE FORECAST TO HOLD IN THE 99TH PERCENTILE OVER NORTH TX FOR DECEMBER. THE 0 TO 6 KM BULK SHEAR MAGNITUDE IS EXPECTED TO BE IN EXCESS OF 55 KTS DURING THE PERIOD OF MAXIMUM FORCING FOR ASCENT WHICH SPEAKS TO THE STRENGTH OF THE WIND FIELDS OUT AHEAD OF THIS SYSTEM. INSTABILITY CONTINUES TO BE THE MOST DIFFICULT PARAMETER TO FORECAST...AND THE DEGREE OF INSTABILITY WILL LARGELY DETERMINE OUR SEVERE WEATHER CHANCES AND COVERAGE TOMORROW AFTERNOON. BASED ON 21Z SURFACE OBS...THE NAM APPEARS TO HAVE THE BEST HANDLE ON LOW LEVEL MOISTURE MOISTURE RETURN OUT AHEAD OF THIS SYSTEM. MOISTURE TRANSPORT IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE IN INTENSITY TONIGHT AND DURING THE DAY MONDAY AS THE UPPER LEVEL LOW MOVES OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. THE LOW LEVEL JET IS FORECAST TO INCREASE TO AT LEAST 50 KTS OVER NORTH TX TOMORROW...WITH OUR LOCAL 4 KM WRF INDICATING A POTENTIAL JET CORE OF 60 KTS AFTER 21Z. STRATUS IS STILL EXPECTED TO BE IN PLACE OVER MOST OF THE OPEN WARM SECTOR TOMORROW WHICH WILL BE A LIMITING FACTOR FOR LOW LEVEL DESTABILIZATION. HOWEVER WITH MOISTURE TRANSPORT LIKELY UNDERESTIMATED IN MOST OPERATIONAL GUIDANCE...THINK THAT SURFACE BASED INSTABILITY IS LIKEWISE UNDERESTIMATED. 12Z MOS GUIDANCE IS NOW CONSISTENT WITH MID 60S HIGHS FOR DFW TOMORROW. MOS GUIDANCE ALSO INDICATES HIGHS IN THE UPPER 60S TO LOWER 70S FOR WACO TOMORROW. THIS IS A FEW DEGREES WARMER THAN HIGHS WERE EXPECTED TO CLIMB FROM YESTERDAYS FORECAST. CONFIDENCE IN THESE HIGHER TEMPERATURES IS INCREASING DUE TO SIGNIFICANT BREAKS IN CLOUD COVER OVER NORTH TX AND THE TX GULF COAST. WARMER AFTERNOON TEMPERATURES TODAY WILL THEORETICALLY LEAD TO WARMER OVERNIGHT LOWS ONCE CLOUD COVER BUILDS BACK IN TONIGHT. THIS WOULD MEAN THAT LESS HEATING IS NECESSARY TO REACH HIGHER TEMPERATURES TOMORROW AFTERNOON. THE 12 AND 18Z NAM RUNS BOTH CONTINUE TO AGGRESSIVELY ADVERTISE FREE CONVECTION POTENTIAL TOMORROW AFTERNOON AND EVENING. WITH THE NAM HAVING THE BEST HANDLE ON LOW LEVEL MOISTURE AND HIGH TEMPERATURES LIKELY CLIMBING A FEW DEGREES HIGHER TOMORROW THAN PREVIOUS EXPECTED...CONFIDENCE IN THE NAMS THERMODYNAMIC SOLUTION HAS INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY. THE NAM ADVERTISES A CORRIDOR OF SURFACE BASED CAPE OF 1000 J/KG EXTENDING FROM THE METROPLEX SOUTH...NEAR THE INTERSTATE 35 CORRIDOR BY 00Z TUE OR TOMORROW AT 6 PM. AS PREVIOUS FORECAST MENTIONED...LOW LCL HEIGHTS INDICATE THAT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE FREE CONVECTION POTENTIAL ENERGY /CAPE/ WILL LIE IN THE LOWEST 3 KMS. 0 TO 3 KM CAPE VALUES ARE FORECAST TO BE IN EXCESS OF 200 J/KG WITHIN THIS SAME GENERAL CORRIDOR. THESE VALUES ARE QUITE HIGH EVEN FOR A SPRING SEVERE WEATHER EPISODE...AND HIGH LOW LEVEL CAPE VALUES SPEAK TO THE POTENTIAL FOR LOW LEVEL STRETCHING AND TILTING OF HORIZONTAL VORTICITY INTO THE VERTICAL. LOW LEVEL WIND PROFILES CONTINUE TO VEER WITH HEIGHT AND CONTAIN SIGNIFICANT SPEED SHEAR DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF THE STRONG LOW LEVEL JET. 0-1 KM HELICITY VALUES IN EXCESS OF 200 M2/S2 ARE PRESENT WITHIN THE CORRIDOR OF HIGH LOW LEVEL CAPE. THIS COMBINATION OF PARAMETERS INDICATES THAT ANY UPDRAFT WILL HAVE A STRONG LIKELIHOOD TO INGEST HORIZONTAL VORTICITY WHICH GREATLY INCREASES THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT TOMORROW AFTERNOON. THE GENERAL STORM MODE IS STILL EXPECTED TO BE LINEAR WITH SIGNIFICANT FORCING FOR ASCENT EXPECTED ALONG A PACIFIC TYPE COLD FRONT THAT WILL MOVE TROUGH NORTH TX JUST AHEAD OF THE CORE OF THE UPPER LOW. THIS NORTH/SOUTH ORIENTED FRONT IS ORIENTED NEARLY PARALLEL TO THE 0-6 KM BULK SHEAR VECTORS WHICH GENERALLY FAVORS SHARED COLD POOLS LEADING TO A LINEAR STORM MODE. EVEN WITH A LINEAR STORM MODE STRETCHING AND TILTING OF HORIZONTAL VORTICITY INTO THE VERTICAL CAN LEAD TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF MESOVORTICIES CAPABLE OF PRODUCING STRONG LOCALIZED WIND DAMAGE...AND TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF BRIEF TORNADOES. ANY DISCRETE STORMS OUT AHEAD OF LINE SEGMENT CONVECTION WILL LIKELY BE IN THE FORM OF LOW-TOPPED AND VERY FAST MOVING SUPERCELLS. ANY LOW-TOPPED SUPERCELL AWAY FROM THE MAIN LINE OF CONVECTION WILL BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO...ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF THE METROPLEX TOMORROW AFTERNOON. THE MOST WIDESPREAD SEVERE WEATHER HAZARD IS THOUGHT TO BE IN THE FORM OF STRAIGHT LINE WIND DAMAGE...AND THIS IS MOSTLY DUE TO THE POTENTIAL FOR STRONG ENVIRONMENTAL WINDS TO BE DRIVEN DOWN TO THE SURFACE. DEEP MOISTURE MEANS THAT THERE IS LITTLE THETA-E DIFFERENCE WITH HEIGHT...AND THEREFORE LITTLE POTENTIAL FOR ENHANCED DOWNDRAFT SPEEDS OR MICROBURSTS. OVERALL CONFIDENCE IN AN ORGANIZED STORM MODE IS HIGH NOW FOR TOMORROW AFTERNOON. DAMAGING STRAIGHT LINE WINDS WITH A HIGH POTENTIAL FOR LOCALLY ENHANCED DAMAGE IS THE MOST PREVALENT SEVERE WEATHER HAZARD. THERE IS AN ATTENDANT TORNADO THREAT TOMORROW AFTERNOON...ESPECIALLY IF ANY DISCRETE STORMS ARE ABLE TO DEVELOP OUT AHEAD OF THE SQUALL LINE/PACIFIC FRONT. 99TH PERCENTILE PWATS ALWAYS RAISE THE POTENTIAL FOR LOCALIZED FLOODING ISSUES...HOWEVER THE VERY FAST STORM MOTION IS EXPECTED TO MITIGATE SIGNIFICANT FLOODING CONCERNS. THE PACIFIC TYPE COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO MOVE EAST THRU MOST OF NORTH TX BY MIDNIGHT /06Z TUE/ MONDAY NIGHT. THE ATTENDANT SQUALL LINE WILL LIKELY BE JUST EXITING THE FORECAST AREA AT THIS TIME SO HAVE LINGERED HIGH POPS OVER THE FAR EASTERN CWA AFTER MIDNIGHT. BY TUESDAY MORNING THERE IS SOME LOW END POTENTIAL FOR LIGHT RAIN ASSOCIATED WITH MOISTURE WRAPPED AROUND THE UPPER LOW...ESPECIALLY AS SOME RESIDUAL FRONTOGENETIC FORCING BUILDS INTO THE NORTHERN CWA AS THE CANADIAN AIRMASS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BLIZZARD PORTION OF THIS SYSTEM /OVER THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS/ MOVES SOUTH INTO NORTH TX. NO WINTRY PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED AT THIS TIME AS THERE WILL BE VERY LITTLE MOISTURE LEFT TO WORK WITH AND TEMPERATURES WILL GENERALLY REMAIN ABOVE FREEZING EARLY TUESDAY MORNING BEHIND THE FRONT. EXTENDED...NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES MADE TO THE EXTENDED AT THIS TIME. KEPT THE LOW END RAIN CHANCES OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE CWA ON THURSDAY AS ANOTHER SHORTWAVE TROUGH MOVES OVER NORTH TX. THE 12Z ECMWF WAS THE MOST AGGRESSIVE WITH PRECIPITATION BECAUSE IT BRINGS THE WAVE OVER NORTH TX THE FURTHEST NORTH AND STRONGER THAN THE GFS ADVERTISES. EITHER WAY LIMITED MOISTURE WILL PREVENT SIGNIFICANT COVERAGE OF RAIN OVER NORTH TX ON THURSDAY. MAINTAINED A DRY FORECAST FOR THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND AS RUN TO RUN AND MODEL TO MODEL CONSISTENCY EVEN ON LARGE SCALE FLOW REMAINS POOR AT THIS TIME. GENERAL CONSENSUS IS THAT TEMPERATURES WILL BE BELOW NORMAL...SO FOR NOW A COOL AND DRY HOLIDAY WEEKEND IS EXPECTED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Very in-depth discussion. Judging by the wind fields described in this and in the models, it won't take much of an underestimate in instability to create a problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Any storm at all in Dallas would look to come close to severe wind gusts base don forecast 0Z sounding. Houston before the storms arrive, unstable, and shear, but NAM forecasts less deep moisture. Dallas area looks like mainly speed shear where actual instability exists, as a guess, the low level directional shear/helicity is 'wasted', as it were, and it is more a wind/hail than tornado threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 KIAH sounding, I'm not editing that yet because I'm going to link to that post on the forum tech forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 NAM for Dallas looks similar to 0Z, very good low level shear may go wasted by weak near surface instability, but decent (TT ~50) mid level instability, near 30 knot winds almost to the deck, 50 knot winds just above, and 30 knots speed shear where there is instability, it has potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadotony Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Don't look to the RUC for any help forecasting today. It decided to take a dump in the Gulf by painting <40°F dew points down there and completely screwing up its initialization the past few runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Don't look to the RUC for any help forecasting today. It decided to take a dump in the Gulf by painting <40°F dew points down there and completely screwing up its initialization the past few runs. The HRRR hasn't replaced the RUC yet, right? I haven't actually started looking at it yet, but would it have the same errors? Edit- ok, looked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 The HRRR doesn't look like it's affected by the RUC. The Rapid Refresh is scheduled to replace the RUC in January. I've been using that for the past couple of weeks after it handled one of our events pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1025 AM CST MON DEC 19 2011 VALID 191630Z - 201200Z ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS THIS AFTERNOON INTO TONIGHT ACROSS PORTIONS OF NRN/CNTRL/ERN TX... ...SYNOPSIS... EWD-MOVING UPPER LOW CENTERED NEAR EPZ WILL TURN MORE NEWD THIS PERIOD IN RESPONSE TO THE PROGRESSION OF 80-90 KT MIDLEVEL JET STREAK FROM NRN MEXICO INTO NRN TX/ERN OK. THIS EVOLUTION WILL RESULT IN A CORRIDOR OF 12-HR HEIGHT FALLS /500 MB/ AOA 100 M SPREADING FROM ERN NM/WRN TX INTO KS/OK. IN THE LOW LEVELS... SURFACE LOW OVER ERN NM WILL DEVELOP ACROSS THE SRN TX PNHDL THIS AFTERNOON INTO CNTRL OK BY 20/12Z. THIS LOW PRESSURE WILL BE ACCOMPANIED BY A PACIFIC FRONT THAT WILL ADVANCE EWD ACROSS WRN/CNTRL TX AND SWRN/S-CNTRL OK. ...SRN PLAINS... SCATTERED ELEVATED TSTMS OVER PARTS OF W-CNTRL/NWRN TX INTO WRN/CNTRL OK WILL MOVE/DEVELOP EWD/NEWD TODAY IN CONJUNCTION WITH A LEAD VORTICITY MAXIMUM EJECTING NEWD IN ADVANCE OF PRIMARY UPPER-LEVEL SYSTEM. LIMITED ELEVATED INSTABILITY SHOULD PRECLUDE A SEVERE HAIL THREAT WITH THIS ACTIVITY. BY MID/LATE AFTERNOON...LATEST CONVECTION-ALLOWING AND MESOSCALE MODEL GUIDANCE INDICATES AN INCREASED LIKELIHOOD FOR SURFACE-BASED TSTM DEVELOPMENT ALONG PACIFIC FRONT INVOF OF THE I-35 CORRIDOR OF NRN/CNTRL TX. HERE...INCREASING BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE CONTENT WILL BE OFFSET TO A DEGREE BY WIDESPREAD CLOUDS WITH MLCAPE VALUES RISING TO 500-1000 J/KG. BUT...GIVEN THE STRONG FORCING FOR ASCENT AND STRENGTHENING LOW- AND DEEP-LAYER SHEAR /I.E. ESRH OF 200-300 M2 PER S2 AND EBS OF 45-55 KT/...THE SETUP WILL FAVOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF ORGANIZED STORM MODES INCLUDING SUPERCELLS WITH A RISK FOR A FEW TORNADOES...DAMAGING WINDS AND HAIL. ELSEWHERE...ISOLATED...LOW-TOPPED TSTMS WILL BE POSSIBLE THIS AFTERNOON OVER THE SRN TX PNHDL INTO FAR SWRN OK BENEATH MIDLEVEL COLD CORE AND INVOF OCCLUDING SURFACE LOW. HERE...STEEPENING LAPSE RATES WILL YIELD WEAK CONVECTIVE INSTABILITY WITH THE STRONGEST STORMS CAPABLE OF SOME HAIL...POSSIBLY APPROACHING SEVERE LEVELS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORT WORTH TX 1039 AM CST MON DEC 19 2011 .UPDATE... LATEST WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS THE LARGE UPPER LOW CONTINUING TO SLOWLY MOVE EAST THIS MORNING AND MAY NOW BE STARTING TO SHIFT TO THE NORTH. THIS CONTINUED EASTWARD MOVEMENT OVERNIGHT WASNT FORECASTED BY THE MODELS AND THE OVERALL TRACK OF THE UPPER LOW AND SUBSEQUENT SURFACE LOW WILL BE A BIT FURTHER SOUTH THAN ANTICIPATED. A LEAD VORTICITY LOBE HAS DETACHED FROM THIS TROUGH AND A BAND OF THUNDERSTORMS HAVE DEVELOPED WITHIN THIS SMALL AREA OF ENHANCED LIFT THIS MORNING JUST WEST OF THE FORECAST AREA. EXPECT THIS AREA OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS TO CONTINUE TO MOVE TO THE NE AND IT COULD AFFECT OUR NORTHWESTERN ZONES LATER THIS MORNING. 16Z SURFACE ANALYSIS CONTINUES TO SHOW MOISTURE STREAMING NORTHWARD. 60 DEWPOINTS ARE NOW JUST SOUTHWEST OF THE CWA AND SHOULD SEE THESE VALUES IN OUR CWA SHORTLY. A WARM FRONT IS ANALYZED ACROSS THE SOUTHWESTERN ZONES AND THIS BOUNDARY IS EXPECTED TO MOVE NORTHEAST WITH THE SURFACE LOW. THE SET UP FOR SEVERE WEATHER THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING CONTINUES TO COME TOGETHER...BUT THERE ARE STILL SEVERAL FACTORS THAT HAVE TO PLAY OUT IN THE NEXT 4-6 HOURS TO DETERMINE THE OVERALL CHANCES FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS. THE LARGE AREA OF PRECIP TO OUR WEST CONTINUES TO SLOWLY MOVE TO THE EAST AND WOULDNT BE SURPRISED TO SEE SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WEST OF INTERSTATE 35 IN THE LATE MORNING AND EARLY AFTERNOON HOURS AS THE LEAD IMPULSE MOVES NEAR THE AREA. EXPECT THAT WE WOULD HAVE SOME TIME BETWEEN THIS LEAD PRECIP AND WHEN THE LINE OF THUNDERSTORMS MOVES THROUGH THE AREA IN THE LATE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS. WITH A 50-60 KNOT LOW LEVEL JET IN PLACE...THE AIRMASS SHOULD BE ABLE TO QUICKLY RECOVER FROM ANY LINGERING EFFECTS OF PRECIPITATION. THE SECOND FACTOR WILL BE THE AVAILABLE INSTABILITY IN PLACE THIS AFTERNOON. THE 12Z NAM SEEMS TO HAVE THE BEST HANDLE REGARDING SURFACE T/TD AND INSTABILITY VALUES. EXPECT THE 60 DEWPOINT ISODROSOTHERM TO BE AS FAR NORTH AS HILL COUNTY BY 21Z AND INTO THE METROPLEX BY 00Z THIS EVENING. WE SHOULD SEE SOME SURFACE CAPE WITH THE 60 DEWPOINTS...BUT HIGHER VALUES NEAR 1000 J/KG WILL BE CONFINED TO AREAS WITH 63+ DEWPOINTS...LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF WACO. THESE LOCATIONS WILL SEE THE BEST CHANCES OF SEVERE WEATHER. THE THIRD FACTOR WILL BE THE STORM MODE. LATEST HIGH RESOLUTION MODEL OUTPUT FORMS A SOLID LINE OF CONVECTION IN OUR WESTERN ROW OF COUNTIES NEAR 19Z OR 1 PM AS STRONG FRONTOGENETICAL FORCING DEVELOPS ALONG THE EASTWARD MOVING FRONTAL BOUNDARY. THERE ARE SOME HINTS IN THE MODEL OUTPUT THAT AS THE LINE MOVES EAST THERE MAY BE SOME BREAKS IN THE LINE AND SEPARATE STORM SEGMENTS WOULD BE THE DOMINANT MODE. IF THIS WERE TO OCCUR...THE POTENTIAL FOR TORNADOES WOULD INCREASE AS THESE SEGMENTS WOULD LIKELY BE SUPERCELLS GIVEN THE STRONG SHEAR IN PLACE. LOCATIONS SOUTH AND EAST OF A KILLEEN TO DFW TO PALESTINE LINE HAVE THE BEST CHANCES FOR A TORNADO TODAY PER LATEST SPC DAY 1 OUTLOOK. THESE LOCATIONS WILL HAVE THE BEST LOW-LEVEL INSTABILITY THIS AFTERNOON...BUT AGAIN...THE FURTHER SOUTH YOU ARE...THE BETTER CHANCE FOR A TORNADO. TEMPERATURE/DEWPOINT FIELDS WILL NEED TO BE WATCHED CLOSELY TODAY AS A FEW DEGREES OFF OF FORECASTED VALUES EITHER WAY COULD HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON THE SEVERE/TORNADO POTENTIAL. 85/NH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Looking like broken lines with possible supercells later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ed Lizard Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Fort Worth- nice lapse rates above 850 mb. Per the SPC discussion, a little farther South and a little warmer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernNJ Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Between 5:20 and 5:30 CST, the radar looked interesting northeast of Waco around the Hubbard and Coolidge areas. The reflectivity had some inflow into the line as well as a circulation in the vicintity. Not sure if anything happened, but a feature to make note of moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 've only seen 1 severe warning myself in the FWD CWA. Might have missed one, but its not a big outbreak, at least not yet and HGX is pulling down severe headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 Well, this was a total waste of time. NEXT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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