ksstormhunter Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Added all the data points I had for TX panhandle, Western OK, and SouthWest Kansas to http://smartwxmodel.net/Storm1.htm Looking at the Dodge City data point, showing 19/20Z precip beginning and winds picking up by 19/15Z, with average gusts between 32-35 mph. Show a window of 22Z to 04Z of very heavy snowfall rates of 1.1 to 1.4" per hour, with total snow of 15.5" through 20/15Z. Don't know if it will be that much, it usually will scale back the closer it gets to onset time. Good shot for periods of blizzard conditions with visibilities less than 1/4 mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I'm pretty jealous about this. Been watching and hoping this sucker would slide farther south, but it doesn't look like it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 Some relevant snips from the afternoon discussions from DDC, AMA, LUB and OUN... DDC ALL MODELS SHOW THE H7 LOW STACKED WITH THE H5 LOW GENERALLY ACROSS THE TEXAS PANHANDLE BY AROUND 00Z TUESDAY WITH QPF VALUES ABOVE ONE-HALF INCH ACROSS MUCH OF SOUTH CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST KANSAS. BECAUSE OF THIS, SIGNIFICANT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS COULD BE SEEN ACROSS EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN KANSAS AS EARLY AS LATE AFTERNOON MONDAY. THE HIGH POPS IN PLACE ALONG THE OKLAHOMA BORDER MONDAY AFTERNOON SEEM REASONABLE THIS FAR OUT. THE HIGHEST SNOWFALL AMOUNTS ARE LIKELY MONDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY TUESDAY MORNING. ADDITIONALLY, A TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL DEVELOP IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE FRONT AS IT MOVES ACROSS WESTERN KANSAS CREATING STRONG NORTHERLY WINDS MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT. THIS COULD CAUSE BLOWING SNOW AND DRIFTING SNOW CONDITIONS ACROSS MUCH OF THE FORECAST AREA RESULTING IN POOR VISIBILITIES. AMA BIGGEST FORECAST CONCERN IS THE WINTER STORM EXPECTED EARLY NEXT WEEK. EXCEPT FOR SOME MINOR PLACEMENT ISSUES...THE 12Z NAM AND GFS ARE IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT. THE GFS IS SLIGHTLY FARTHER NORTH ON THE TRACK OF THE CLOSED SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER LOW THAN THE NAM. THE NAM TAKES THE UPPER LOW ALONG THE BORDER OF THE SOUTHWESTERN STATES AND MEXICO...ACROSS FAR WEST TEXAS...AND THEN LIFTS THE UPPER LOW NORTHEAST ACROSS THE TEXAS SOUTH PLAINS INTO SOUTHWESTERN OKLAHOMA BY 18Z TUESDAY. THE GFS TAKES THE UPPER LOW IN A SIMILAR FASHION BUT LIFTS THE UPPER LOW NORTHEAST A BIT SOONER ACROSS THE TEXAS SOUTH PLAINS AND THEN ACROSS THE EASTERN TEXAS PANHANDLE INTO NORTHERN OKLAHOMA AND SOUTHERN OR SOUTHEASTERN KANSAS BY 18Z TUESDAY. THE ECMWF IS THE SLOWEST OF THE MODELS AND DECIDED TO TAKE A BLEND OF THE GFS AND NAM. THE PREVIOUS FORECAST AND GRIDS FOR SNOW AMOUNTS AND TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS LOOKED RIGHT ON TRACK...AND BASED ON CURRENT TIMING AND TRACK OF THE UPPER LOW...RAISED SNOW AMOUNTS ACROSS MAINLY THE NORTHWEST HALF OF THE FORECAST AREA. THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE WILL BE THE CHANGEOVER FROM RAIN TO SNOW AS THE STRONG COLD FRONT PUSH SOUTH AND EAST ACROSS THE PANHANDLES MONDAY. EXPECT A TIGHT GRADIENT BETWEEN THE RAIN AND SNOW WHICH WILL SPREAD SOUTH AND EAST WITH THE FRONT. CANNOT RULE OUT POSSIBILITY FOR THUNDER...MAINLY ACROSS THE SOUTHEASTERN AND FAR EASTERN TEXAS PANHANDLE. HOWEVER...CONFIDENCE TOO LOW AT THIS TIME TO INTRODUCE. DID INTRODUCE AREAS OF BLOWING SNOW MONDAY AND MONDAY NIGHT AS NORTHERLY WINDS INCREASE TO AROUND 20 TO 30 KNOTS OR HIGHER WITH HIGHER GUSTS. CONDITIONS MAY WARRANT UPGRADE TO BLIZZARD WARNING DUE TO THE STRONG WINDS AND REDUCED VISIBILITIES IN BLOWING SNOW IN LATER SHIFTS. LATEST WINTER WEATHER ACCUMULATIONS FROM HPC AND THE WINTER WEATHER DESK INDICATING SNOW ACCUMULATIONS MAY EXCEED A FOOT ACROSS THE OKLAHOMA AND PARTS OF THE EXTREME NORTHERN TEXAS PANHANDLES. ALTHOUGH KEPT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS UNDER HPC FORECAST...DID INCREASE TO NEAR A FOOT OR SLIGHTLY HIGHER OVER THE NORTHERN SECTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA. LUB A MAJOR WINTER STORM IS POISED TO IMPACT PORTIONS OF WEST TEXAS MONDAY/ MONDAY NIGHT. ATTM...THIS SYSTEM APPEARS TO BE PRIMARILY TAKING AIM ON THE PANHANDLE. HOWEVER THE EXTREME SOUTHERN PANHANDLE AND NORTHERN SOUTH PLAINS OF THE LUB FORECAST/WARNING AREA WILL BE AT RISK FOR PERIPHERAL IMPACTS INCLUDING A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS AND BLOWING SNOW/NEAR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS LATE MONDAY. A CAUTIONARY WORD...THE SYSTEM OF INTEREST REMAINS STATIONARY...SPINNING VIGOROUSLY OFF THE WEST COAST OF NORTHERN BAJA. THUS IT REMAINS LARGELY UNSAMPLED BY THE OBSERVATIONAL NETWORK. THAT SAID...CURRENT SOLUTIONS MAINTAIN AMAZINGLY GOOD AGREEMENT WRT THE PROGGED TIMING/TRACK OF THE SYSTEM/S EJECTION OVER WEST TEXAS LATE MONDAY /IE WITHIN ~120 NMI/. THESE SMALL DIFFERENCES IN PROJECTED TRACK...AMPLIFIED BY LACK OF DIRECT SYSTEM OBSERVATIONS...LEND INCREASED UNCERTAINTY TO SITE-SPECIFIC IMPACTS FOR THE IMMEDIATE SOUTH PLAINS REGION. GIVEN THE PROXIMITY OF THIS TRACK TO LUBBOCK PROPER...DRAMATIC DIFFERENCES IN SENSIBLE WEATHER/WINTER STORM POTENTIAL WILL HINGE ON SUBTLE DETAILS THAT ARE YET UNRESOLVABLE. GIVEN THIS AND TIMING OF THE EVENT LATE IN THE 4TH/5TH FORECAST PERIODS... HAVE OPTED TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT INSTEAD OF POSTING A WATCH AT THIS TIME...HOWEVER...A WATCH WILL LIKELY BE NEEDED IN THE NEAR FUTURE. BY SUNDAY EVENING THE PARENT MID/UPPER AIR LOW WILL BE EJECTING EASTWARD OVER THE MEXICO BORDER REGION OF THE DESERT SOUTHWEST. ALTHOUGH LIGHT WARM AIR ADVECTION PROCESSES MAY INITIALLY RESULT IN LIGHT SHOWERS/DRIZZLE SUNDAY EVENING...THE PROBABILITY OF WIDESPREAD RAINS WILL INCREASE DRAMATICALLY AFTER MIDNIGHT AS NEAR MERIDIONAL/DIFFLUENT FLOW OVERSPREADS WEST TEXAS IN ADVANCE OF THE APPROACHING LOW. MODEST ELEVATED INSTABILITY WITHIN THE WARM CONVEYOR BELT AND PROGGED INTENSE FORCING/ASCENT SUPPORT HIGH/MOS POPS IN THE 60-90 PERCENT RANGE DURING THE DAY MONDAY FAVORING THE NORTHERN ZONES. MODELS CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE A BIT WITH THE SPEED OF A FROPA AND THE DEEP COOLING OF PROFILES WHICH WOULD SUPPORT A TRANSITION TO SNOW. THIS APPEARS TO OCCUR WITH THE ONSET OF STRONG NORTH WINDS/COLD AIR ADVECTION AROUND 18Z IN THE EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN PANHANDLE...AND THEN ADVANCE SOUTHWARD OVER THE HIGH PLAINS/LLANO ESTACADO DURING THE AFTERNOON. CURRENTLY EXPECT THE RAIN/SNOW LINE TO APPROACH A BROWNFIELD...TO LUBBOCK...TO SILVERTON LINE BY SUNSET. THE MAGNITUDE OF FORCING WITHIN THE A DEFORMATION ZONE NORTH OF THE LOW/S TRACK...COUPLED WITH MSLP GRADIENTS AND LOW LEVEL FLOW... SUGGEST SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATIONS WITH NEAR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS WILL BE POSSIBLE OVER THE EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN PANHANDLE AND FAR NORTHWESTERN SOUTH PLAINS BY EARLY MONDAY EVENING. THIS IS SUPPORTED BY SREF GUIDANCE SHOWING A 40-50 PERCENT PROBABILITY OF GREATER THAN 4 INCH AMOUNTS OVER CASTRO AND PARMER COUNTIES BY 06Z TUE... AND 60-95 PERCENT PROBABILITY FOR 1 INCH ACCUMULATIONS FROM SILVERTON TO PLAINVIEW...TO MORTON...WITH OF COURSE HIGHER PROBABILITIES FOR POINTS NORTHWESTWARD OVER EASTERN NEW MEXICO/TEXAS PANHANDLE NEARER A PRONOUNCED TROWAL. OUN MAIN CONCERN THIS FORECAST PERIOD REMAINS WITH STRONG STORM SYSTEM EXPECTED TO MOVE FROM THE SOUTHWESTERN U.S. THROUGH THE SOUTHERN PLAINS EARLY NEXT WEEK. MODEL SOLUTIONS REMAIN IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE TRACK OF THE SYSTEM...MOVING THE UPPER LOW FROM SERN NM MONDAY THROUGH NW OK AND INTO KS BY TUESDAY. HOWEVER...THE MODELS DO SHOW A LITTLE MORE DIFFERENCE IN HOW RAPIDLY THE SYSTEM EJECTS NEWD OUT OF THE AREA. LOOKS LIKE THE PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN TO AFFECT THE AREA SUNDAY NIGHT WITH MOISTURE BEGINNING TO RETURN FROM THE GULF AND LIFT INCREASING AHEAD OF THE APPROACHING UPPER SYSTEM. WIDESPREAD RAIN WILL CONTINUE MONDAY...WITH A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS IN THE SOUTHEAST. PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN TO CHANGE OVER TO SNOW IN THE NORTHWEST MONDAY NIGHT..WITH WINTRY PRECIPITATION SPREADING TOWARD CENTRAL SECTIONS ON TUESDAY AS THE SYSTEM LIFTS NEWD. LIGHT SNOW MAY CONTINUE ACROSS PARTS OF NORTHERN OKLAHOMA INTO TUESDAY EVENING...ESPECIALLY IF THE SLOWER MOVEMENT OF THE ECMWF PREVAILS. GIVEN THE EXPECTED TRACK OF THE SYSTEM...ACCUMULATING SNOW WILL BE LIKELY OVER NORTHWEST OKLAHOMA MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY AND WILL NOT MAKE ANY CHANGE TO THE TIMING OR CONFIGURATION OF THE CURRENT WINTER STORM WATCH. HEAVIEST AMOUNTS IN OUR CWA WILL LIKELY BE IN THE FAR NW CORNER. AS MENTIONED EARLIER...SOME LIGHT SNOW MAY LINGER INTO TUESDAY EVENING IN THE NORTH AS THE STORM SYSTEM EXITS THE AREA...BUT LITTLE ADDITIONAL ACCUMULATION IS EXPECTED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockchalk83 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 NWS Wichita has jumped on board the WS.A (Winter Storm Watch) train ...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN WICHITA HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING. * TIMING OF THE WINTRY PRECIPITATION WILL BE MONDAY EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING...WITH THE HEAVIEST SNOW ACCUMULATIONS EXPECTED EARLY TUESDAY MORNING INTO TUESDAY AFTERNOON. * SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS ARE POSSIBLE ALONG A CENTER LINE FROM HUTCHINSON TO MCPHERSON TO MARION. THE BAND OF 4 TO 8 INCHES IS POSSIBLE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE AFOREMENTIONED LINE FROM SALINE TO SEDGWICK COUNTIES. A TRACE TO 4 INCHES IS EXPECTED ALONG THE EDGES OF THE BAND...AND IT IS EXPECTED TO HAVE A SHARP GRADIENT. * THERE COULD BE A SMALL AMOUNT OF ICE ACCUMULATION OVER PORTIONS OF SOUTH CENTRAL AND SOUTHEASTERN KANSAS. ACCUMULATIONS ARE NOT EXPECTED TO BE OVER A TENTH OF AN INCH. * WINDS...FROM THE NORTH WILL BE BREEZY WITH SUSTAINED SPEEDS OF 15 TO 25 MPH AND GUSTS UP TO 30 MPH. * IMPACTS WILL INCLUDE HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS DUE TO POSSIBLE DRIFTING...SLICK ROADWAYS AND REDUCED VISIBILITIES FROM MODERATE TO HEAVY BLOWING SNOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 ABQ issues Winter Storm Watch and Blizzard Watch is also in effect for Eastern New Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 ABQ issues Winter Storm Watch and Blizzard Watch is also in effect for Eastern New Mexico. *sigh* i'm not there yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksstormhunter Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Just pushed out 01Z Update for the W.TX, W OK, and SW KS areas. Still showing same trends as before, Dalhart is showing the worse conditions with Blizzard Conditions from 02Z-08Z. Visibilities less then 1/2 mile, snow fall rates around 1", and winds 40-45 mph. While Guymon and Dodge City is showing heaviest snowfall accumulations of 14-16" across this region. Full upload of data pointed updated http://smartwxmodel.net/Storm1.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 AMA going all out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 70% chance of at least 8" of snow there in the Oklahoma Panhandle and southwest Kansas. Safe to say they will have a white Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwxguy Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 been fun watching this storm so far (MCPHERSON ) not gonna get too excited though until models show same stuff for me but be on sunday nights runs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Wouldn't be surprised at a few spots getting 18"-24" with this one. My big winner big would be somewhere in the Boise City/Guymon, OK area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 Winter Storm Warnings are now in effect for SW New Mexico with Winter Storm Watches extending NE into NE Kansas. Blizzard Watches have been hoisted from E N MX, the NW TX/OK Panhandles and SW/S Central Kansas for up to 12-14 inches of snow. In the warm sector, The SPC has as Slight Risk of severe weather for parts of Eastern TX including areas just S of FWD and including the HGX regions. This storm looks eerily similar to the December 29, 2006 storm that brought numerous tornadoes across N TX and the Dallas/ Fort Worth area, but is not as strong at the 5H level and not as far S as that event. Severe Weather events, while not uncommon in December, have a history of catching folks off guard so it is prudent to at least mention the severe side of the very dynamic Winter Storm with the busy Holiday period approaching. HPC: SHORT RANGE FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 343 AM EST SUN DEC 18 2011 VALID 12Z SUN DEC 18 2011 - 12Z TUE DEC 20 2011 ...HEAVY SNOW AND POSSIBLE BLIZZARD CONDITIONS WILL BE POSSIBLE FROM AREAS OF NEW MEXICO INTO THE SOUTHERN/CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS... ...AN UNSTABLE AIR MASS ACROSS SOUTHEASTERN TEXAS SHOULD SUPPORT A THREAT FOR SEVERE WEATHER ON MONDAY... AFTER A BRIEF QUIET PERIOD IN THE WEATHER ACROSS THE NATION...THINGS SHOULD BECOME MUCH MORE ACTIVE FROM SUNDAY NIGHT ONWARD INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. FUELING THIS CHANGE IS AN ANOMALOUS UPPER CYCLONE WHICH HAS SEEMINGLY BEEN SWIRLING IN THE VICINITY OF NORTHERN BAJA CALIFORNIA THE PAST FEW DAYS. ANOTHER SYSTEM DROPPING SOUTHWARD FROM THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WILL FINALLY GIVE THIS STAGNANT UPPER LOW A PUSH TO THE EAST WITH THE ENERGY REACHING EXTREME WEST TEXAS BY MONDAY MORNING. BEFORE THIS OCCURS...SCATTERED INSTABILITY RAIN SHOWERS WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND PORTIONS OF ARIZONA WITH PRECIPITATION TOTALS ON THE LIGHTER END GIVEN LIMITED LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE. ONCE THIS DISTURBANCE TRACKS TOWARD THE EAST LATE SUNDAY/EARLY MONDAY...IT WILL BEGIN INTERCEPTING AN INCREASE IN GULF MOISTURE WHICH IS EXPECTED TO EXPAND THE SWATH OF PRECIPITATION. IN ADDITION...AS A FRONTAL BOUNDARY TO THE NORTH SURGES TOWARD THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...PLENTY OF COLD AIR WILL INVADE THE REGION. ULTIMATELY THIS WILL QUICKLY LEAD TO A CHANGEOVER TO SNOW WITH SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATIONS FORECAST FROM CENTRAL NEW MEXICO NORTHEASTWARD THROUGH THE TEXAS/OKLAHOMA PANHANDLES AND INTO SOUTHWESTERN KANSAS. THE CURRENT HPC WINTER WEATHER GRAPHICS EXPECT THIS REGION TO SEE A WIDESPREAD 6 TO 12 INCHES OF SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS WITH POCKETS OF LOCALLY HEAVIER AMOUNTS. IN ADDITION...A TIGHTENING IN THE PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL LEAD TO AN ENHANCEMENT IN THE WINDS MAKING BLIZZARD-LIKE CONDITIONS MORE POSSIBLE. FOR THE LATEST INFORMATION ON THIS WINTER STORM...PLEASE VISIT THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOMEPAGE AT WWW.WEATHER.GOV. THE OTHER ASPECT OF THIS SYSTEM WILL BE THE THREAT FOR SEVERE WEATHER ACROSS PORTIONS OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS. STRONG UPPER DYNAMICS COMBINED WITH AMPLE GULF MOISTURE AND A POTENT FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL LEAD TO AN ACTIVE AREA OF THUNDERSTORMS ON MONDAY. BY THE OVERNIGHT HOURS...THE THREAT SHOULD DIMINISH AS THE SYSTEM WILL HAVE ADVANCED INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY WITH THE WINDS SHIFTING TO THE WEST-NORTHWEST. GIVEN A LACK OF LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE ADVANCING INTO THE NORTHERN SECTOR OF THE COUNTRY...MUCH OF THIS PORTION OF THE U.S. WILL BE RELATIVELY QUIET. A PROGRESSIVE FLOW WITHIN AN ACTIVE JET STREAM WILL CONTINUE TO DRAW A SERIES OF PACIFIC DISTURBANCES THROUGH THE NORTHERN TIER STATES. SUCH A FLOW REGIME SHOULD KEEP TEMPERATURES NEAR NORMAL AS THE COLDEST AIR REMAINS UP IN CANADA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockchalk83 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I am curious about a couple of things as it relates to this upcoming storm. And I am going to apologize ahead of time if my questions come across as being stupid. First, I am puzzled as to why the models (and corresponding ensembles) are seem like they are hanging up the 0 deg C isotherm in south central Kansas, especially if the system will be strengthening to the south and there being such a cold conveyor belt with this system. I would think that would act to keep the cold air on the move. Second, if significant thunderstorm activity develops within the warm sector, would that act to force the system to take a more southern route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 There still remains some uncertainty regarding storm track and timing of just how quickly the 5H low will trek E across Northern Mexico. The U/L has been stationary, but indications via WV imagery suggest that the storm system is beginning to move inland across the northern Baja region. Satellite data suggest lightening is occurring with this U/L depicting the strength of the feature. The 06Z GFS/NAM was a bit faster while the Euro remained about 6-8 hours slower regarding the movement into the TX Panhandle. It will be interesting to watch how things evolve today as the northern stream short wave trough progresses inland and the attending 'cold front' dives S into the Plains later this afternoon setting the stage for rapid development across the Southern Rockies/Southern Plains tomorrow... NCEP Operational Status Message Sun Dec 18 13:27:09 2011 GMT NOUS42 KWNO 181325 ADMNFD SENIOR DUTY METEOROLOGIST NWS ADMINISTRATIVE MESSAGE NWS NCEP CENTRAL OPERATIONS CAMP SPRINGS MD 1321Z SUN DEC 18 2011 THE 12Z NAM HAS STARTED AND IS ON-TIME...THE FOLLOWING UPR AIR REPORTS WERE AVBL FOR INGEST...13 ALASKAN...31 CANADIAN...72 CONUS...9 MEXICAN AND 7 CARIBBEAN. 12Z NAM RAOB RECAP... NAS/78073 - PURGED TEMP/RH 754-747 MB...WET BULB EFFECT... PURGED WINDS 1001-784 MB...SPURIOUS ROR/91408 - UNAVBL OTZ/70133 - 10145...UNFAVORABLE WX CONDITIONS PCZ/78807 - MISSING TTAA/TTBB CRITICAL WEATHER DAY STATUS...THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF CRITICAL WEATHER DAY...CWD...DUE TO THE WINTER STORM IMPACTING THE SOUTHWEST AND SOUTH CENTRAL U.S. WITHIN THE NEXT THREE DAYS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 CIPS analogs show 11/22/92 as the #2 analog at 60 hours for the Southern Plains. That was a mammoth storm for places like Dodge City, KS. I believe a few locations in SW KS and NW OK saw 20-25 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I woke up to seeing blizzard watches across the panhandles of Texas and Oklahoma. Actually looked up airline prices and contemplated flying out there to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettjrob Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Solid NW trend on the 12z suite... the bullseye shifted more into SE CO and WC KS... taking these runs literally would mean not a whole lot for AMA, and perhaps less than previously expected even for DDC. For anyone looking to chase, Garden City or Hays could be a safer bet. I'm glad this one isn't even close for me so I don't have to deal with the heartbreak of the last-minute tweaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 IIRC, what very little precip Amarillo and surrounding area got the first few months this year was in the form of snow, but it was only a couple of tenths. Hate to see mention of a NW shift, an inch water equivalent would be huge... Edit to add- AMA is more rain than snow, but in a drought year, this is still a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettjrob Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 IIRC, what very little precip Amarillo and surrounding area got the first few months this year was in the form of snow, but it was only a couple of tenths. Hate to see mention of a NW shift, an inch water equivalent would be huge... Thankfully, this looks like more of a p-type issue than a QPF one for most of the Panhandles. It does rob the southern fringe of significant QPF, though, especially around LBB. No doubt, they need it far more than the I-70 corridor that benefited from this morning's trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksstormhunter Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 SmartCast starting to zone in on the snow. Latest 16Z showing 20/15Z as the onset time for precip in this area. Looks like starting out as liquid to sleet, then quickly to snow. Winds on average between 30-35mphs, with some locations around Dalhart area around 40-43mph. Heaviest of the snowfall rates seems to be zoned in on the Guymon area with rate of 1.6" per hour.with snow accumulations around 14-16" across this area. Update data points and added a few more cities. http://smartwxmodel.net/Storm1.htm Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Thankfully, this looks like more of a p-type issue than a QPF one for most of the Panhandles. It does rob the southern fringe of significant QPF, though, especially around LBB. No doubt, they need it far more than the I-70 corridor that benefited from this morning's trend. Yeah, I checked the regional PSU 4 panels after I posted, and saw that. Total precip around AMA isn't bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 SPC Day 2 Update suggests a bit of increased opportunity for severe weather chances in the warm sector of this dynamic storm system and even a mention of an isolated possible tornado or two... DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1130 AM CST SUN DEC 18 2011 VALID 191200Z - 201200Z ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS CENTRAL/SOUTHEAST TX TO FAR WESTERN LA... ...SYNOPSIS... WHILE THE PRIMARY WESTERLIES PERSIST OVER CANADA/CONUS NORTHERN TIER...THE CLOSED/SLOW-MOVING UPPER LOW CURRENTLY CENTERED OVER NORTHERN BAJA/FAR NORTHWEST MEXICO WILL BEGIN TO MODESTLY ACCELERATE EAST-NORTHEASTWARD AS IT REACHES THE SOUTHERN PLAINS BY MONDAY AFTERNOON/NIGHT. ...CENTRAL/EAST TX TO WESTERN LA... AS THE AFOREMENTIONED UPPER LOW EMERGES FROM NORTHWEST MEXICO/DESERT SOUTHWEST...A PERSISTENTLY STRONG 50-60 KT SOUTHERLY LOW LEVEL JET WILL AID IN THE NORTHWARD TRANSPORT OF A PARTIALLY MODIFIED GULF AIRMASS INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS ON MONDAY. EAST OF A GRADUALLY DEEPENING SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS SURFACE LOW AND A DRYLINE/EASTWARD-MOVING PACIFIC FRONT...THIS WILL GENERALLY RESULT IN SURFACE DEWPOINTS IN THE LOWER TO MIDDLE 60S ACROSS CENTRAL/SOUTHEAST TX BY AFTERNOON...WITH MIDDLE TO UPPER 50S F DEWPOINTS INTO NORTH-CENTRAL TX/FAR SOUTHERN OK. WITH SHOWERS/TSTMS LIKELY TO BE ONGOING EARLY MONDAY ACROSS WEST TX INTO PARTS OF NORTH/CENTRAL TX AND OK...WIDESPREAD LOW CLOUDS MAY LIMIT APPRECIABLE DESTABILIZATION INTO EARLY AFTERNOON. NONETHELESS...CONTINUED THETA-E ADVECTION AND DIURNAL HEATING/MIXING SHOULD YIELD A WEAKLY CAPPED BOUNDARY LAYER WITH A CORRIDOR OF MLCAPE OF 500-800 J/KG ACROSS CENTRAL/SOUTHEAST TX BY MID/LATE AFTERNOON TO THE EAST OF THE DRYLINE/PACIFIC FRONT. ALONG WITH ARRIVAL OF MORE APPRECIABLE FORCING FOR ASCENT...THIS SHOULD RESULT IN AN AFTERNOON/EVENING INCREASE OF SURFACE BASED TSTMS. GIVEN THE DEGREE OF FORCING...EXPECTED EASTWARD PROGRESSION OF THE PACIFIC FRONT ACROSS TX...AND CURRENTLY FORECAST VEER-BACK-VEER LOW TO MID-LEVEL WIND PROFILES...THE PRIMARY CONVECTIVE MODE IS EXPECTED TO BE LINEAR ESPECIALLY ACROSS CENTRAL INTO NORTH TX. NONETHELESS...ASIDE FROM DAMAGING WINDS...AT LEAST SOME TORNADO THREAT WILL EXIST GIVEN THE DEGREE OF LOW LEVEL SHEAR/SRH. SUCH A TORNADO THREAT COULD BE THE CASE WITH INITIAL WARM SECTOR STORMS EAST OF THE PACIFIC FRONT...ANY QLCS-EMBEDDED CIRCULATIONS THAT EVOLVE...AND/OR WITH QLCS-SOUTH PERIPHERAL STORMS THAT SHOULD BE OF A MORE DISCRETE NATURE /FORCING FOR ASCENT WILL BE A BIT MORE SUBTLE/ WITHIN A HIGHER MOISTURE CONTENT AIRMASS ACROSS SOUTHEAST TX. AT LEAST AN ISOLATED/MARGINAL DAMAGING WIND/TORNADO THREAT SHOULD CONTINUE THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT AND INTO EARLY TUESDAY ACROSS SOUTHEAST/EAST TX INTO WESTERN/SOUTHWEST LA. ...NORTHWEST TX/SOUTHWEST OK... EVEN WITH A COOL/MARGINALLY MOIST BOUNDARY LAYER...LOW-TOPPED TSTMS CAPABLE OF HAIL TO AROUND SEVERE LEVELS AND/OR PERHAPS A TORNADO COULD DEVELOP EARLY/MID AFTERNOON MONDAY IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE NEARLY STACKED SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS CYCLONE. SHOULD MODEST/SUFFICIENT HEATING OCCUR...THIS COULD INITIALLY BE THE CASE ACROSS NORTHWEST TX INCLUDING THE TX SOUTH PLAINS/SOUTHERN TX PANHANDLE VICINITIES. GIVEN THE LIMITED NATURE OF THE MOISTURE/BUOYANCY AND EXPECTED COLD FRONTAL PROGRESSIONS...ANY STRONG/SEVERE TSTM THREAT SHOULD REMAIN MARGINAL AND OF A RELATIVELY LIMITED DURATION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicago Storm Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 12z ECMWF Text Data... AMA: MON 12Z 19-DEC 7.6 5.8 1009 95 74 0.04 563 555 MON 18Z 19-DEC 8.3 6.0 1007 98 91 0.39 558 553 TUE 00Z 20-DEC 1.3 -0.7 1011 93 75 0.27 548 539 TUE 06Z 20-DEC -1.8 -5.4 1017 83 87 0.06 549 535 TUE 12Z 20-DEC -3.6 -7.8 1022 75 87 0.02 552 535 DDC: MON 12Z 19-DEC 7.0 8.2 1010 91 80 0.02 565 556 MON 18Z 19-DEC 1.9 2.3 1016 89 99 0.10 563 550 TUE 00Z 20-DEC -0.9 -4.3 1017 94 99 0.46 558 545 TUE 06Z 20-DEC -3.1 -6.4 1019 93 100 0.23 552 537 TUE 12Z 20-DEC -4.4 -8.7 1021 90 95 0.22 550 533 TUE 18Z 20-DEC -4.7 -6.8 1022 87 88 0.03 551 534 GUY: MON 12Z 19-DEC 6.1 6.5 1010 92 69 0.02 563 555 MON 18Z 19-DEC 3.5 1.5 1012 95 100 0.25 560 550 TUE 00Z 20-DEC -1.2 -4.6 1015 92 100 0.57 552 540 TUE 06Z 20-DEC -3.4 -7.0 1021 92 99 0.35 550 533 TUE 12Z 20-DEC -5.0 -8.7 1023 87 94 0.16 551 533 TUE 18Z 20-DEC -4.1 -7.6 1024 81 82 0.02 553 534 SPD: MON 12Z 19-DEC 2.0 2.9 1011 71 63 0.01 561 552 MON 18Z 19-DEC -0.8 -2.5 1017 73 100 0.09 558 544 TUE 00Z 20-DEC -3.1 -4.2 1019 92 99 0.59 554 538 TUE 06Z 20-DEC -5.3 -6.7 1025 89 99 0.50 552 532 TUE 12Z 20-DEC -5.9 -7.0 1024 87 96 0.21 552 533 TUE 18Z 20-DEC -4.9 -5.1 1023 81 87 0.01 555 537 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksstormhunter Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 20Z SmartCast output starting show early detection on my SmartCast Weather Threat Page. Within 24 hours of significant weather impacts to the area. Looking at the Dalhart area, precip beginning around 15Z, changing to snow by 18Z. Snowfall rates over 1" from 22-02Z, combined with winds gusting up to 45-50mph from 19Z-08Z. Snowfall for this storm looks to be 11-13" across this region. Major impacts to air/road travel, in addition power and medical services will also be degraded. Also updated data points in the area http://smartwxmodel.net/Storm1.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.B. LaForce Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Nice little baroclinic leaf forming on WV imagery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Sometimes a La Nina can really deliver for you guys. Too bad for the rest of us that that there is no blocking for a big ending to December like we had back in December 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 Blizzard Warnings are now hoisted for NE New Mexico/SE Colorado/NW Texas ond Oklahoma Panhandles/SW Kansas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Blizzard Warnings are now hoisted for NE New Mexico/SE Colorado/NW Texas ond Oklahoma Panhandles/SW Kansas. Do we have any members in the area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 Do we have any members in the area According to our regional member map, no. That said I suspect some members have not requested to be added and we have many quests that are following across the Country... http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=101468100889412705424.0004638c314748aa9fba0&ll=41.376809,-83.430176&spn=13.282338,28.564453&z=6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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