beavis1729 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 At least I've/we've won some winters though. Very true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I lol'd EDIT: bonus monster torch by 168, we're not done with the '50s 60's yet. FYP Late December 2010 redux. Won't have snow cover to melt here this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 FYP Late December 2010 redux. Won't have snow cover to melt here this time. Horrible all around. Christmas was looking seasonal and now that is trending warmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Horrible all around. Christmas was looking seasonal and now that is trending warmer. Money in the bank. Posted 11 December 2011 - 12:27 PM Just for giggles and since we're 2 weeks away...what's everyone's prediction for their backyard on Christmas day? I'm in a bit of a doom and gloom mood today, so I'm going with a high of 48º and partly sunny. We'll revisit later to take out the trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Money in the bank. Euro actually looks cooler than the GFS, at least aloft. Over/under on whether we hit 40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Have you ever been passionate about anything? Like a sports team, for example? Of course it's the internet and it's difficult to read too much into words on a screen...but your recent posts make it seem like it's ridiculous to hope for anything in life. Most folks on this board are snow-lovers, and we hope that it snows. It's very simple. Imagine a lifelong Chicago Cubs fan...even though it's likely they won't win the World Series in a given year, die-hard Cubs fans still hope for it...it's human nature. Didn't mean to come off that way, I'm fiending for snow myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Euro actually looks cooler than the GFS, at least aloft. Over/under on whether we hit 40? Easy over. 12z MEX has 41º. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I'm saying 40F for Christmas here... We'll get snow...the question is when and how much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 lol...sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 lol...sigh. Raging +AO/NAO, AK Vortex returning, SE Ridge anomaly.... :( This Winter sucks thus far. No LES either, how sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 lol...sigh. Interesting how the warmest anomalies in this pattern have been in the northern US, the opposite of what most people were calling for this winter. Of course we are still early... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Interesting how the warmest anomalies in this pattern have been in the northern US, the opposite of what most people were calling for this winter. Of course we are still early... La Nino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Didn't mean to come off that way, I'm fiending for snow myself. I hear you...we're all in the same boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Light rain falling here. Looks cool to see something falling out of the sky. Will say I love a chill rainy night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Ouch Chi Town! PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL 615 PM CST TUE DEC 20 2011 /715 PM EST TUE DEC 20 2011/ ...YET ANOTHER STATISTIC AS TO JUST HOW SLOW WINTER 2011-2012 IS STARTING... SO FAR THIS WINTER IN CHICAGO THERE HAS ONLY BEEN 1 DAY WITH A HIGH TEMPERATURE BELOW FREEZING AND THAT WAS BACK ON 10TH WHEN THE HIGH TEMPERATURE WAS 27 DEGREES. THIS PLACES THIS WINTER IN AN ELITE GROUP OF WINTERS THAT HAVE FAILED TO PRODUCE MORE THAN 1 DAY WITH HIGHS BELOW FREEZING THROUGH DECEMBER 21ST. THERE HAVE BEEN 6 WINTERS IN CHICAGO WEATHER HISTORY THAT HAD NOT SEEN EVEN ONE DAY WITH HIGHS BELOW FREEZING THROUGH DECEMBER 21ST (1923, 1971, 1918, 1939, 1998, AND 2001). THERE HAVE BEEN 5 OTHER WINTERS THAT HAD ONLY SEEN ONE DAYTIME HIGH BELOW FREEZING THROUGH DEC 21ST (1913, 1931, 1881, 1990, AND 1999). TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO GENERALLY REMAIN ABOVE AVERAGE THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF DECEMBER...WHICH MEANS FEW IF ANY ADDITIONAL DAYS WITH HIGHS BELOW FREEZING ARE EXPECTED. ON AVERAGE...CHICAGO WILL SEE 12 DAYS WITH HIGHS BELOW FREEZING BY DEC 31ST. THE RECORD FOR FEWEST BELOW FREEZING DAYS BY DEC 31ST IS ZERO SET BACK IN 1923. THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN 3 WINTERS THAT HAD ONLY SEEN ONE DAY WITH HIGHS BELOW FREEZING (1971, 1913, AND 1931)...SO IF CHICAGO FAILS TO SEE ANOTHER DAY WITH SUBFREEZING HIGH TEMPERATURES BY DEC 31ST THEN THIS WINTER WOULD BE TIED WITH THOSE 3 YEARS FOR 2ND PLACE. $$ IZZI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Ouch Chi Town! PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL 615 PM CST TUE DEC 20 2011 /715 PM EST TUE DEC 20 2011/ ...YET ANOTHER STATISTIC AS TO JUST HOW SLOW WINTER 2011-2012 IS STARTING... SO FAR THIS WINTER IN CHICAGO THERE HAS ONLY BEEN 1 DAY WITH A HIGH TEMPERATURE BELOW FREEZING AND THAT WAS BACK ON 10TH WHEN THE HIGH TEMPERATURE WAS 27 DEGREES. THIS PLACES THIS WINTER IN AN ELITE GROUP OF WINTERS THAT HAVE FAILED TO PRODUCE MORE THAN 1 DAY WITH HIGHS BELOW FREEZING THROUGH DECEMBER 21ST. THERE HAVE BEEN 6 WINTERS IN CHICAGO WEATHER HISTORY THAT HAD NOT SEEN EVEN ONE DAY WITH HIGHS BELOW FREEZING THROUGH DECEMBER 21ST (1923, 1971, 1918, 1939, 1998, AND 2001). THERE HAVE BEEN 5 OTHER WINTERS THAT HAD ONLY SEEN ONE DAYTIME HIGH BELOW FREEZING THROUGH DEC 21ST (1913, 1931, 1881, 1990, AND 1999). TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO GENERALLY REMAIN ABOVE AVERAGE THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF DECEMBER...WHICH MEANS FEW IF ANY ADDITIONAL DAYS WITH HIGHS BELOW FREEZING ARE EXPECTED. ON AVERAGE...CHICAGO WILL SEE 12 DAYS WITH HIGHS BELOW FREEZING BY DEC 31ST. THE RECORD FOR FEWEST BELOW FREEZING DAYS BY DEC 31ST IS ZERO SET BACK IN 1923. THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN 3 WINTERS THAT HAD ONLY SEEN ONE DAY WITH HIGHS BELOW FREEZING (1971, 1913, AND 1931)...SO IF CHICAGO FAILS TO SEE ANOTHER DAY WITH SUBFREEZING HIGH TEMPERATURES BY DEC 31ST THEN THIS WINTER WOULD BE TIED WITH THOSE 3 YEARS FOR 2ND PLACE. $$ IZZI Yeah that's pretty nasty! I've managed only 3 days below freezing since Dec. 1st - 45 miles north IMBY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 La Crosse has had 7 days below freezing... Still no temps below 0F. Without snow cover that one is hard to accomplish. hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 La Crosse has had 7 days below freezing... Still no temps below 0F. Without snow cover that one is hard to accomplish. hmmm... The only thing i've enjoyed about this weather is the near perfect running weather.. No **** piles of snow and ice on sidewalks/streets = win.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 People at work are attributing the lack of snow with climate change. Some heated debates lately in the break room and while working. Funny how easily people can forget the tornado watches of January 7-8, 2008. Ain't even that either. I'm a big advocate of the F2 tornado on December 12, 1946 just a half hour drive southwest of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 If you take the 00z GFS verbatim (obviously with a grain of salt) Hawkeye and I will go into the new year without breaking the 1" snowfall barrier. Simply amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 The two/three Winters that we might be closing in on following could very well be 31-32, 71-72, and maybe 66-67 (tornado outbreak in Chicagoland, followed shortly thereafter by the historic blizzard). I think I threw out 1917-1918,1913-1914, and 1975-1976 in one of our analog threads with the above Winters... some are seeming like a good match and some are obviously not. You win some, you lose some. As to this pattern, I'd be willing to bet many around here don't have an official 1" snowfall until around 1/10-1/17/2012. That would be my magic range to keep an eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 La Crosse has had 7 days below freezing... Still no temps below 0F. Without snow cover that one is hard to accomplish. hmmm... Need a damn Nuke to blast the hell out of that crap in the N.Pac. I admit this pattern is starting to cause me to wonder about this winter? I mean there is NOTHING showing up anywhere that could give this crap a boot. MJO is basically stuck on stupid and looks to stay that way per modeling. Had a shot but it appears that has been blown too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 The two/three Winters that we might be closing in on following could very well be 31-32, 71-72, and maybe 66-67 (tornado outbreak in Chicagoland, followed shortly thereafter by the historic blizzard). I think I threw out 1917-1918,1913-1914, and 1975-1976 in one of our analog threads with the above Winters... some are seeming like a good match and some are obviously not. You win some, you lose some. As to this pattern, I'd be willing to bet many around here don't have an official 1" snowfall until around 1/10-1/17/2012. That would be my magic range to keep an eye on. This board might get ugly if you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 This board might get ugly if you're right. Haha, yeah. The thing of it is even after the pattern begins to breakdown and we get our first snowstorm, there's only so many locations that will be impacted. The folks that are excluded from that first real hit are really gonna start to get salty at that point. I may be one of them lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 Tuesday, December 20th: Hi: 39F Lo: 33F Overall Sky Conditions: Partly Cloudy Max Wind Gust: 11MPH Rainfall: 0.02" Snowfall: Trace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 The two/three Winters that we might be closing in on following could very well be 31-32, 71-72, and maybe 66-67 (tornado outbreak in Chicagoland, followed shortly thereafter by the historic blizzard). I think I threw out 1917-1918,1913-1914, and 1975-1976 in one of our analog threads with the above Winters... some are seeming like a good match and some are obviously not. You win some, you lose some. As to this pattern, I'd be willing to bet many around here don't have an official 1" snowfall until around 1/10-1/17/2012. That would be my magic range to keep an eye on. 66-67 was a strange one with the extreme torches ( Had low/mid 60s here in 1st/2nd week of Dec and then upper 50s/60 right before the blizzard ) thrown in between normal and slightly below till the blizzard anyways. Had two decent snows in Nov ( early Nov 10.0" and then a 7.0" storm in late Nov ) and then a few smaller systems in Dec ( a couple 3-4" inch events ) and then hardly a thing in Jan till the blizzard hit and THEN it was on. Similar thing in 71-72 minus the blizzard. With 75-76 got a nice hit in late Nov and then again from around Christmas till Feb 1st and after that it was basically over. Perhaps the earliest ending to winter ever in these parts? Only another 2 inches would fall after the 1st of Feb and a inch of that fell in late April. lol This is assuming the data is accurate as it is known there was a bit of missing data at this location back then. Heck still have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Haha, yeah. The thing of it is even after the pattern begins to breakdown and we get our first snowstorm, there's only so many locations that will be impacted. The folks that are excluded from that first real hit are really gonna start to get salty at that point. I may be one of them lol. Cyclone, who is the snow God and how do we do a ritual dance to him/her? I need at least 8" to make up for this slow start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I will happily say "good riddance" to 2011 (at least the latter half to 2/3 of it) in 10 days. Time to start a new year, that will hopefully start at least a tad more wintry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 66-67 was a strange one with the extreme torches ( Had low/mid 60s here in 1st/2nd week of Dec and then upper 50s/60 right before the blizzard ) thrown in between normal and slightly below till the blizzard anyways. Had two decent snows in Nov ( early Nov 10.0" and then a 7.0" storm in late Nov ) and then a few smaller systems in Dec ( a couple 3-4" inch events ) and then hardly a thing in Jan till the blizzard hit and THEN it was on. Similar thing in 71-72 minus the blizzard. With 75-76 got a nice hit in late Nov and then again from around Christmas till Feb 1st and after that it was basically over. Perhaps the earliest ending to winter ever in these parts? Only another 2 inches would fall after the 1st of Feb and a inch of that fell in late April. lol This is assuming the data is accurate as it is known there was a bit of missing data at this location back then. Heck still have it. So Harry in a way 66-67 does in deed match. We had the weird cut-off low system which produced some surprise snows in Michigan/Indiana/Ohio that was late November correct? Then basically warmish in December with a few stabs here and there of chilly air but no real snow to speak of. Hmmm... but that may have been an El Nino year which, of course, is opposite of what we have now with La Nina...but pattern overall sounds/seems familiar. And from what you say 1971-72 matches up well. I'll have to research these two Winters in particular for more information and see how it turned out around here. It would be very disappointing to have a Winter basically end on 2/1, cruddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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