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December 2011 General Discussion/Obs Part 2


Chicago Storm

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Tuesday: Rain and snow, possibly mixed with freezing rain and sleet before 10am, then rain and snow between 10am and 1pm, then rain likely after 1pm. High near 41. East wind between 10 and 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. Little or no ice accumulation expected. New snow and sleet accumulation of less than a half inch possible.

What a crappy day tomorrow is shaping up to be.

Why crappy lol? I :wub: Wintry mix days where you can get any and every precip type..

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Why crappy lol? I :wub: Wintry mix days where you can get any and every precip type..

First of all, I am wishing this storm would be a snow producer. Secondly, yes it will start out as a mix, but will end up plain rain. I would rather have it the other way around. However, it would be cool to see all 4 within a few hours.

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Could have been 1996. cuz 97/98 was a bad winter. 27.5" ::yikes"""

found some facts.. In fact it was 1996

http://meteorology.b...h-mid-february/

March '96 was an awesome storm. Thundersnow with >12" IMBY well MBY at that time. The forecast was a total bust too which made it even better. If the first few hours would have been rain and not snow it would have been a 18"+ storm!!!

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March '96 was an awesome storm. Thundersnow with >12" IMBY well MBY at that time. The forecast was a total bust too which made it even better. If the first few hours would have been rain and not snow it would have been a 18"+ storm!!!

It was my second best storm I have ever witnessed right behind the 16 day miracle of 1999.

Where u located?

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Ji said JB said January will be the warmest since 2006 south of I-80 in the east. I dont know who should worry less, those of us north of I-80, or those south of I-80 knowing JB is always wrong :lol:

The active storm track might end up being near I-80 with more snow to the north. I can't complain about January '06, too much, I ended having a surprise 12" snowstorm that month.

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Based on m calculations, a slightly -NAO/-AO anomaly is best preffered for the Great Lakes region to keep the anomalies cold enuff for snowstorms than rain storms. An overly powered -NAO/-AO anomaly can be horrible esp if its extremely West Based in nature like in 2009-10 and you dont want a raging +NAO/AO either, lol.

At the same time a neutral PNA/-EPO with a slightly weak SE Ridge anomaly is the best ticket for major snowstorms across the Great lakes region.

Jan 1994, Dec 1970/Jan 1971 are good examples, perhaps?

The pattern during the 2007-2008 season was perfect for a lot of snow.

NAO averaged: 0.51 Dec.- Mar.

PNA averaged: 0.0 Dec. - Mar.

AO averaged: 0.79 Dec. - Mar.

Then you had the SE ridge that funneled most of the systems into the GL/OV.

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Are you describing the March 9th, 1998 or March 21st, 1998 storm? Sounds more like the former.

We are getting worse :lol:. March 9, 1998 was a huge snow in Chicago, but here just saw a half inch of snow following very heavy rain. March 21, 1998, as said, saw 2.2" here, I believe a little more north of Detroit. But as you saw, dmc was describing March 20, 1996. The winter of 1997-98 sucked. The best period of winter was the second half of January. Nine inches of snow fell, falling on a frequent but light basis and actually peaking at a depth of 6" on Jan 23rd, but the only real storm that was worth remembering that winter was December 10th, when heavy wet snow left low visibility and 5" of snow. The winter total snow was 27.2" imby, my least snowy in 16 years of measuring. DTW had 23.4", the 16th least snowy winter on record.

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The active storm track might end up being near I-80 with more snow to the north. I can't complain about January '06, too much, I ended having a surprise 12" snowstorm that month.

Wow thats good for that month. Jan 2006 sucked big time here. Had 5" of snowfall, most of it from 3.5" on Jan 18th. Only 4 days during the month had 1"+ snowdepth. Compare this to Dec 2005 with 22" and snow on the ground just about all month, a big disappointment.

Now that said, I dont at all think this Jan will be like that here. If the storm track is near I-80, then places from Chicago to Detroit could be golden. But lets get to January first and see what happens lol.

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Wow thats good for that month. Jan 2006 sucked big time here. Had 5" of snowfall, most of it from 3.5" on Jan 18th. Only 4 days during the month had 1"+ snowdepth. Compare this to Dec 2005 with 22" and snow on the ground just about all month, a big disappointment.

Now that said, I dont at all think this Jan will be like that here. If the storm track is near I-80, then places from Chicago to Detroit could be golden. But lets get to January first and see what happens lol.

12/20-21 was the date of the 12" storm, which was very localized from DeKalb to Waukegan. The city only got about 5". Nothing more than a dusting outside of that storm all month!

Month before I received 17.4", which was spread out more.

Well we can't get much worse than this month. Bring on January!

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A bit off topic, but is anyone else getting virus attacks off of the twisterdata site?

Funny you say that...ex past facto, but I used to get virus warning pop-ups from my anti-virus for the twisterdata site on my old PC.

No issues now, but I bought a Mac 2 years ago. :lol:

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Not sure if we're going to get the necessary 0.50" or so to break 50" on the year for precipitation...time is running thin. It's like deja vu all over again (2010-11 winter where we finished just shy of 50" of snow).

0z NAM has 0.51" and 0z GFS has 0.68" for this event.

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Funny you say that...ex past facto, but I used to get virus warning pop-ups from my anti-virus for the twisterdata site on my old PC.

No issues now, but I bought a Mac 2 years ago. :lol:

Right after I posted above my computer basically crashed. Messed around with it for quite awhile before having to do a full system restore back to last month. This computer's only about 7 months old, windows 7. Needless to say I'm staying away from twisterdata for awhile lol. Sucks cause that's one of my favorite sites.

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0z NAM has 0.51" and 0z GFS has 0.68" for this event.

I'll take the under. We end up finishing at something like 49.92". Of course in the end it's an estimate using the WL COOP for one month, due to LAF going on the fritz in May. But my point stands...50" is unreachable here, lol.

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Right after I posted above my computer basically crashed. Messed around with it for quite awhile before having to do a full system restore back to last month. This computer's only about 7 months old, windows 7. Needless to say I'm staying away from twisterdata for awhile lol. Sucks cause that's one of my favorite sites.

That blows. Yeah it is an awesome site. But since I had the same thing happen as you did, despite getting a new computer, I hardly ever visit that site anymore. Seems strange to have a weather site with viruses, but I guess the internetz is a dangerous place.

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I'll take the under. We end up finishing at something like 49.92". Of course in the end it's an estimate using the WL COOP for one month, due to LAF going on the fritz in May. But my point stands...50" is unreachable here, lol.

Well, we still have that mess later this week to bail us out if needed. :lol:

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That blows. Yeah it is an awesome site. But since I had the same thing happen as you did, despite getting a new computer, I hardly ever visit that site anymore. Seems strange to have a weather site with viruses, but I guess the internetz is a dangerous place.

Yeah. I have the latest Norton IS software too, but it didn't do squat. The IT losers who initiate these viruses need to be painfully exterminated.

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Yeah. I have the latest Norton IS software too, but it didn't do squat. The IT losers who initiate these viruses need to be painfully exterminated.

100% agree. I've never really understood the need for hackers to screw so many peoples computers/lives up. Since I got my Mac, I don't even use anti-virus software...other than what's built into the existing software. Bonus for still being in the minority of what people use as a computer I guess.

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