Trent Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I'm done complaining about the lack of snow til after the New Year. Picked up a whopping unexpected 6" today. One of the benefits of having a nice warm lake that decides to sneeze a surprise snow every once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 18z is awfully dry...NAEFS looks above normal down the road... NWS here shows above freezing the next 7 days... Brown Christmas for sure. This just seems so weird after so many snowy Decembers... Doesn't even feel like winter to me unless there is 6+ inches on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Lake effect? What's that? It was "supposed" to kick in some today....nope, nada. Got up to about our 1 inch and then it stopped...waited, waited, and waited and lake didn't do squat. Well, at least it's white outside finally. I'm wondering if we'll get anything off the lake this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Extreme wind shear tonight across WI as the baroclinic zone on the backside of the trough moves through. Winds of ~0 mph at the surface, with winds in excess of 150 mph at 300 hPa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 So this is what living in Toronto is like... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Wow craziness in Cleveland! Just a dusting here, was nice to see the flakes all day though. Was at "Holiday Nights" at Greenfield Village tonight and the flakes were the perfect atmosphere. Total snow on the day was 0.4", but the 0.1" from this morning melted (even though it was below freezing) before sticking again late afternoon. Am starting to get very anxious for a real blanketing snowfall, nice to see the sunspot numbers crashing. There are some signs that the light at the end of the tunnel is there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Historically, the worst of the worst Ninas still yield about ~35" of snow here. Looking at the GFS, that amount seems almost inconceivable at this point. But I'm a big believer in stats. The longer this mild/snowless pattern persists, the more abrupt the pattern change is going to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Historically, the worst of the worst Ninas still yield about ~35" of snow here. Looking at the GFS, that amount seems almost inconceivable at this point. But I'm a big believer in stats. The longer this mild/snowless pattern persists, the more abrupt the pattern change is going to be. Let's Hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Historically, the worst of the worst Ninas still yield about ~35" of snow here. Looking at the GFS, that amount seems almost inconceivable at this point. But I'm a big believer in stats. The longer this mild/snowless pattern persists, the more abrupt the pattern change is going to be. An abrupt pattern change would be nice. Dont know if it will be like that or more gradual. But, meh, Toronto can see measurable snow for the next 4+ months....you will see more than 35". Book it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 Friday, December 16th: Hi: 34F Lo: 23F Overall Sky Conditions: Partly Cloudy Max Wind Gust: 10MPH Rainfall: 0.00" Snowfall: 0.0" Saturday, December 17th: Hi: 32F Lo: 28F Overall Sky Conditions: Cloudy Max Wind Gust: 11MPH Rainfall: 0.08" Snowfall: 1.2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Should see temps pushing 50 tomorrow if we get full sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 0z Euro throws us a bone and gives central KS to northern IL a few inches of high ratio snow xmas eve into xmas morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 0z Euro throws us a bone and gives central KS to northern IL a few inches of high ratio snow xmas eve into xmas morning. Something to keep an eye on for sure.. The way last last night's clipper snuck up on us gives me hope and who knows what surprises we might have in store for the following weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Lake effect? What's that? It was "supposed" to kick in some today....nope, nada. Got up to about our 1 inch and then it stopped...waited, waited, and waited and lake didn't do squat. Well, at least it's white outside finally. I'm wondering if we'll get anything off the lake this winter. The slightest thing will screw up LES if it is a westerly type ( nw/w/sw ) flow across the lake. The biggest problem usually is the lake is not wide enough and no other big body of water to the west unlike Erie, Huron, and Ontario. Kinda does suck to see this happen in Dec because this is typically the time for it when the lake is still warm enough to generate some decent LES. Guess it is good that it has not been wasted with dry and cold and thus the lake water temps have been holding their own a bit. Anyways i am sure it will open up eventually. Just a matter of when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Now officially the latest its ever been (168 years) at downtown Toronto without measurable snow. With no real prospects for snow through Christmas, it'll be interesting to see if this could become the first snowless December for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 low 40Fs today will zap the snow cover we have... 6z GFS looks downright balmy towards the New Year. NAEFS still blazing hot... MKE +5.3F for the month.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 1.2cm of fresh snow on the ground. even the roads are covered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Blizzard Watches up for parts of the southern Plains. At least there's some winter going on somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 low 40Fs today will zap the snow cover we have... 6z GFS looks downright balmy towards the New Year. NAEFS still blazing hot... MKE +5.3F for the month.... Blizzard Watches up for parts of the southern Plains. At least there's some winter going on somewhere. I couldn't help but lol @ my snowfall predictions where I placed all of the cities west of the Mississippi at below average and all of those east above average. If this keeps up I will go down in history for making the worst winter prediction ever on American, Eastern, or WWBB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I couldn't help but lol @ my snowfall predictions where I placed all of the cities west of the Mississippi at below average and all of those east above average. If this keeps up I will go down in history for making the worst winter prediction ever on American, Eastern, or WWBB lol, you're being way too hard on yourself. There have been many many worse calls in my history on weather BBs. I still think the forecasts for the winter of 2001-02 to be cold and snowy (WWBB days)...by the majority of mets...was a top 3 worst prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 This is where winter is at... Just outside of Roma, Italia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Now officially the latest its ever been (168 years) at downtown Toronto without measurable snow. With no real prospects for snow through Christmas, it'll be interesting to see if this could become the first snowless December for them. Toronto picked up about 1.4cm/0.6" back on November 30th. If you have a certain number then perhaps you could be right, like greater than 2cm or 1". Even the clippers have been really far north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Toronto picked up about 1.4cm/0.6" back on November 30th. If you have a certain number then perhaps you could be right, like greater than 2cm or 1". Even the clippers have been really far north The weather observation site at the University of Toronto is at a T for the season. No measurable snow. http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/climateData/dailydata_e.html?timeframe=2&Prov=ONT&StationID=5051&dlyRange=1840-03-01|2011-12-16&Month=12&Year=2011&cmdB2=Go&Day=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 The weather observation site at the University of Toronto is at a T for the season. No measurable snow. http://www.climate.w...&cmdB2=Go&Day=1 I noticed Nov 30th had 2mm/0.08" of total precip with a T of rain and a T of snow. Granted that's not much precip, but it seems a bit odd, no? Though I guess the snowfall could have melted on contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I was on WW back in the day. Those were the good old days when Craig from Omaha would make his excellent maps on MS Paint. I'm sure he is in an institution somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I noticed Nov 30th had 2mm/0.08" of total precip with a T of rain and a T of snow. Granted that's not much precip, but it seems a bit odd, no? Though I guess the snowfall could have melted on contact. That's a good point. I suspect the bold part is true. However, none of this data has been quality controlled yet, so it may be that they have in fact received some accumulation of snow. However, IIRC that event correctly, it was a very sloppy snow with temps above freezing. It only stuck on the grass here in the suburbs and from the news footage of downtown I saw that evening, the ground was bare. Maybe if Toronto4 is around he can shed some light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Already up to 40 here. 48 at Des Moines. Only 30 at Rockford and Rochelle where they have fresh snow cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 40F here...almost all the snow is gone...brown is back baby! 12z gfs is a torch...40Fs around the New Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Up to 48 now. Mid 50s in central Iowa. Still only 34 over the snowfield of north-central Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Got down to 14 °F last night, which was quite unexpected. Definitely due to the snowcover, and thankfully the snow is melting off right now so that won't happen again for a little while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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