MJO812 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Hope for the winter? HM The ECMWF is just beginning to show a more poleward EP vector solution at the end of the run. I think once the wave crests and then another becomes modeled, the models will begin to show more interference.I am starting to like the idea of full blown MMW this January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 0z gfs turns the Friday event into a soaker. 1.25"+ for NYC. 1.5" to 2" for coastal NJ and Central Jersey to Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I hope the GFS verifies because I don't want it to rain on Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I hope the GFS verifies because I don't want it to rain on Christmas. Just amazing how the GFS and Euro still have different timeframes. I'd rather the chance for some snow than just the heavy rain that the GFS shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Just amazing how the GFS and Euro still have different timeframes. I'd rather the chance for some snow than just the heavy rain that the GFS shows. GFS doesn't even show a storm for Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 GFS tries to get something going on the 27th, but it's weak and doesn't have enough cold air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Hey Josh, your storm is back on the GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Fwiw, the 0z Nogaps also doesn't have a christmas storm. GGEM,GFS and Nogaps are the same. Lets see how the GEFS and the Euro are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstorm Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 lol That looks like a powerful closed-off upper-level low in the Midwest with a frontal passage that delivers snow squalls and a shot of colder air to NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 0z GEFS doesn't have the storm. Euro is by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 2000-01, 2001-02, 2006-07, 2007-08 and 2008-09 were all clunker years....so it only boils down to 5 epic years. Upton measured 51.2" of snow in 2000-01 and 43.0" in 2008-09...pretty decent winters, all things considered. Both winters produced 14"+ March snowstorms out there. The other three winters you cite were exceptionally bad, no doubt. http://www.bnl.gov/weather/4cast/MonthlySnowfall.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Upton measured 51.2" of snow in 2000-01 and 43.0" in 2008-09...pretty decent winters, all things considered. Both winters produced 14"+ March snowstorms out there. The other three winters you cite were exceptionally bad, no doubt. http://www.bnl.gov/w...hlySnowfall.htm 2008-09 snow map prepared by board member NorthShoreWx: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 2008-09 snow map prepared by board member NorthShoreWx: Lol mt earthlight got shafted hahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Lol mt earthlight got shafted hahahahaha The highest peaks of the Zucker range took until early July to melt that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Please let this be right. Nao and AO are trending downward http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao.sprd2.gif http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao.sprd2.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 6z GFS shows a little snow for Algreek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 Please let this be right. Nao and AO are trending downward http://www.cpc.ncep....a/nao.sprd2.gif http://www.cpc.ncep....ex/ao.sprd2.gif lol, at least you put this in the banter thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Here is an example of a clown map being underdone..not so much in the NYC area but dramatically so across the Berkshires, a good chunk of CT and ORH-southern NH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 There is a reason its underdone the gfs had the Wrong solution. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 There is a reason its underdone the gfs had the Wrong solution. Lol. Okay. I'll hope it has the wrong solution this time too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Nor'easter Could Bring White Christmas to Millions http://gma.yahoo.com/noreaster-could-bring-white-christmas-millions-091355298.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Irresponsible media hype Nor'easter Could Bring White Christmas to Millions http://gma.yahoo.com...-091355298.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Irresponsible media hype Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFox Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 At the end of the article they had this disclaimer: "My feeling on this storm it will be mostly rain for major cities along the coast with snow further inland," ABC News meteorologist Max Golembo said. "But we know how unpredictable storms could be this time of the year, so I would check in tomorrow and every day until Saturday for updated information." Also Read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Yeah I read the article but you lead with a misleading headline like that just to grab people's attention and you're asking for trouble. One of my biggest pet peeves is the way the media distorts what forecasters actually say (unfortunately some forecasters are also guilty of this) At the end of the article they had this disclaimer: "My feeling on this storm it will be mostly rain for major cities along the coast with snow further inland," ABC News meteorologist Max Golembo said. "But we know how unpredictable storms could be this time of the year, so I would check in tomorrow and every day until Saturday for updated information." Also Read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I have fully accepted the fact this winter is going to be a big turd.....the only storm I have track was back in october.......07-08 it reminds me of.....although that winter the midwest/lakes region had a snowy year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 We also had some snow and cold in Dec '07. This is more like Dec 06-Jan 07...absolutely nothing I have fully accepted the fact this winter is going to be a big turd.....the only storm I have track was back in october.......07-08 it reminds me of.....although that winter the midwest/lakes region had a snowy year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 We also had some snow and cold in Dec '07. This is more like Dec 06-Jan 07...absolutely nothing Ur correct.... I remember how brutally cold it was from mid january to february.......I would be happy if winter ended like that year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Going to the Pinstripe Bowl on Dec 30 at Yankee Stadium to see Rutgers take on Iowa State. I already had to miss RU play WVU because of the Oct 31 snowstorm. I see that some modelling has trended to a milder pattern for next week. Is this correct? I will take upper 40s over sitting at a game in the low 30s. Hopefully the rain can stay away too. Bowl games are not made to be played in the northeast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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